Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Blair Davis]

And, if one NEVER allows incoming or outgoing ACH or debit, it is 
trivial to defend against them when someone does attack your account.


My bank knows that neither have ever been allowed on any of my accounts...

We have never used ACH or debit since being screwed by PreyPal back in 2001.

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On 11/25/2014 11:02 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better?

I haven't written a check in years.




One of my Interisle partners is a financial-IT expert, and knows the 
banking system inside and out.  He designed the network for Wall 
Street twice, most recently after a rather sudden massive failure 
event in September of 2001... but he doesn't do much finance work any 
more.  The industry has gotten too distasteful. We prefer that our 
major clients pay by check.  The partnership distributes member 
payments (e.g., my pay) by check.  Why not electronically? Because he 
knows the system too well. It turns out that if you open your account 
to make ACH payments, it's trivially easy for someone to take an 
unauthorized payment.  A personal account has 30 or 60 days to catch 
it and undo it, but a business account has two days.  So if somebody 
literally robs you via ACH, you're out the money if you're not 
checking it daily. Corporations with dedicated finance staffs can do 
that; small businesses like us (four partners, no staff) can't.  
Similarly, the cost of electronic payroll-type payments is way too 
high for a small business.


It is insane that the major automation to the US banking system 
(Europe is ahead of us) is to use scanners to pass around pictures of 
checks electronically.  But the system works pretty well for handling 
checks, so once you leave that paradigm, it gets funky fast.  So we 
print checks.  And I then write checks out of my own business account, 
both to pay myself and to pay rent and a few other business expenses.

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  Interisle Consulting Group
  +1 617 795 2701


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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

I haven't had ACH fraud before, but my bank has always worked quickly to 
restore debit card fraud. 

Cost to electronic payments? Mine only cost the time it takes to enter it. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Fred Goldstein"  
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:02:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


On 11/25/2014 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better? 

I haven't written a check in years. 






One of my Interisle partners is a financial-IT expert, and knows the banking 
system inside and out. He designed the network for Wall Street twice, most 
recently after a rather sudden massive failure event in September of 2001... 
but he doesn't do much finance work any more. The industry has gotten too 
distasteful. We prefer that our major clients pay by check. The partnership 
distributes member payments (e.g., my pay) by check. Why not electronically? 
Because he knows the system too well. It turns out that if you open your 
account to make ACH payments, it's trivially easy for someone to take an 
unauthorized payment. A personal account has 30 or 60 days to catch it and undo 
it, but a business account has two days. So if somebody literally robs you via 
ACH, you're out the money if you're not checking it daily. Corporations with 
dedicated finance staffs can do that; small businesses like us (four partners, 
no staff) can't. Similarly, the cost of electronic payroll-type payments is way 
too high for a small business. 

It is insane that the major automation to the US banking system (Europe is 
ahead of us) is to use scanners to pass around pictures of checks 
electronically. But the system works pretty well for handling checks, so once 
you leave that paradigm, it gets funky fast. So we print checks. And I then 
write checks out of my own business account, both to pay myself and to pay rent 
and a few other business expenses. 
-- 
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 Interisle Consulting Group 
 +1 617 795 2701 
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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Fred Goldstein]

On 11/25/2014 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better?

I haven't written a check in years.




One of my Interisle partners is a financial-IT expert, and knows the 
banking system inside and out.  He designed the network for Wall Street 
twice, most recently after a rather sudden massive failure event in 
September of 2001... but he doesn't do much finance work any more.  The 
industry has gotten too distasteful.  We prefer that our major clients 
pay by check.  The partnership distributes member payments (e.g., my 
pay) by check.  Why not electronically? Because he knows the system too 
well. It turns out that if you open your account to make ACH payments, 
it's trivially easy for someone to take an unauthorized payment.  A 
personal account has 30 or 60 days to catch it and undo it, but a 
business account has two days.  So if somebody literally robs you via 
ACH, you're out the money if you're not checking it daily. Corporations 
with dedicated finance staffs can do that; small businesses like us 
(four partners, no staff) can't.  Similarly, the cost of electronic 
payroll-type payments is way too high for a small business.


It is insane that the major automation to the US banking system (Europe 
is ahead of us) is to use scanners to pass around pictures of checks 
electronically.  But the system works pretty well for handling checks, 
so once you leave that paradigm, it gets funky fast.  So we print 
checks.  And I then write checks out of my own business account, both to 
pay myself and to pay rent and a few other business expenses.


--
 Fred R. Goldstein  k1iofred "at" interisle.net
 Interisle Consulting Group
 +1 617 795 2701

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Re: [WISPA] 2dbi vs 3dbi vs 5 dbi vs 100mw vs 400mw

[Colton Conor]

Is there anyway to see this type of information through a Windows based
computer. I would like the see the tx and rx bit rate.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Ben West  wrote:

> Yes, radios will negotiate different rx/tx rates to each other, so up to 2
> distinct rates for a single link.  On the open source mac80211
> linux-wireless driver you can see this explicitly.  The rx/tx on one radio
> is the tx/rx on the other.
>
> root@ap1:~# iw wlan0 station dump
> Station 52:e6:fc:XX:XX:XX (on wlan0)
> inactive time:70 ms
> rx bytes:769202553
> rx packets:4644034
> tx bytes:326581907
> tx packets:465139
> tx retries:76461
> tx failed:4
> signal:  -56 [-57, -62] dBm
> signal avg:-55 [-57, -62] dBm
> tx bitrate:117.0 MBit/s MCS 14
> rx bitrate:86.7 MBit/s MCS 12 short GI
> authorized:yes
> authenticated:yes
> preamble:long
> WMM/WME:yes
> MFP:no
> TDLS peer:no
>
> root@ap2:~# iw wlan0 station dump
> Station 62:66:b3:XX:XX:XX (on wlan0)
> inactive time:10 ms
> rx bytes:569548806
> rx packets:3191667
> tx bytes:412571117
> tx packets:490879
> tx retries:104831
> tx failed:1
> signal:  -57 [-67, -57] dBm
> signal avg:-55 [-62, -56] dBm
> tx bitrate:86.7 MBit/s MCS 12 short GI
> rx bitrate:117.0 MBit/s MCS 14
> authorized:yes
> authenticated:yes
> preamble:long
> WMM/WME:yes
> MFP:no
> TDLS peer:no
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Colton Conor 
> wrote:
>
>> In my situation, we are assuming we are dealing with a location with one
>> and only one AP (typical home) and most devices are tablets and smartphones
>> who's antenna's and power output can't be modified. Can be either a 1 or 2
>> story home.
>>
>> So, how much truth is in this article:
>> http://tomatousb.org/tut:increasing-wrt54g-transmit-power
>>
>> The author is claiming that wifi negotiates speed (correct) but in both
>> directions in the uplink and downlink side. He is basically claiming if you
>> increase the power output at the AP, then the downstream (from AP to
>> client) link rate will increase, while the uplink (Client to AP) will stay
>> the same. This make sense, but does wifi really established a different PHY
>> rate for up and down stream. Is this correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>>
>>>  Going from 20 dB to 26 dB will allow the AP to be heard (with the same
>>> reliability) at double the distance away.
>>>
>>> Yes. If the client power (actually the client EIRP which includes the
>>> antenna gain) stays the same then the "uplink" distance from client to AP
>>> will still be the same.
>>>
>>> Yes, increasing the number of APs is one possible solution. Another is
>>> to use a higher-gain (more directional) antenna on the AP recognizing that
>>> when you increase the AP antenna gain in one direction, you are reducing
>>> the gain (and the coverage) in all other directions.
>>>
>>> jack
>>>
>>>  On 11/13/2014 11:10 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
>>>
>>> So going from a regular powered 100mw (20db) to a high powered 400mw
>>> (26db) is a 6db increase in output power. So you are saying going from
>>> regular to high powered is a double in coverage size?
>>> Doesn't increasing the power output at the AP only increase how loud the
>>> AP can "shout" which in term dictates how far the receiver can hear from?
>>> If the client can't shout back does this do any good?
>>>
>>>  Most client devices today like iPads, Smartphones, and some laptops
>>> can't be modified to increase their antenna gain or power output. So the
>>> only option is to increase the numbers of APs, or the transmit
>>> power/antennas at the AP right?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>>>
  To double the communications distance (everything else holding
 steady) requires an additional 6 dB. Knowing this, you can do the math with
 the various antenna gains and power levels to determine performance.

 Regards,

 Jack Unger
 WISPA FCC Technical Consultant


  On 11/13/2014 10:15 AM, Colton Conor wrote:

 We are comparing multiple SOHO routers and modems that have the same
 Broadcom chipsets. All of them have 802.11N 2x2 configuration. The only
 differences between them are if they have internal or external antennas and
 the gain of the antennas (either 2, 3, or 5dbi ratings). In addition, some
 sell a high powered wifi radio (400mw) while others have the basic (100mw).

  How much a difference does each of these hardware features make in
 overall wifi performance?


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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

Corporation. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:12:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

 

ah - we are a corporation. who owns the credit card? 

if you're a sole, it's much easier 



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


I couldn't care less when they deposit it. If it's over 30 days, my bank 
e-mails me. 

For many things, it will direct deposit them. 

bill the CC anything that I can, autopay the CC, bank's billpay the rest. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:31:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

 

all our tower rent tenents 
any bill that comes in 
paychecks 
i'm happy with it. 
for one, if i have the bank write the check the money comes out instantly and i 
can't see when the other party cashed it. 
we write nearly 100 checks a month 



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better? 

I haven't written a check in years. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

 

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks 



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Who prints checks? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "James Howard" < ja...@litewire.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 



Are you printing checks from QB? If you use a 3 rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online. There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either. Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all. 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


That never ends well on Windows servers =( 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify... since at least XP. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

You need to update the thing every week, of course. Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows. Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Do you even Linux updates, bro? 

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

ah - we are a corporation.  who owns the credit card?

if you're a sole, it's much easier

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  I couldn't care less when they deposit it. If it's over 30 days, my bank 
e-mails me.

  For many things, it will direct deposit them.

  bill the CC anything that I can, autopay the CC, bank's billpay the rest.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:31:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

   

  all our tower rent tenents
  any bill that comes in
  paychecks
  i'm happy with it.
  for one, if i have the bank write the check the money comes out instantly and 
i can't see when the other party cashed it.
  we write nearly 100 checks a month

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better?

I haven't written a check in years.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

 

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Who prints checks?




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "James Howard" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.  





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts



  That never ends well on Windows servers =(






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a 
schedule you specify...  since at least XP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily 
use Quickbooks every day.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wrote:

  So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it 
takes to update?



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




--

  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once 
it is done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which 
is a simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before 
and after halt...






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wrote:

Do you even Linux updates, bro?

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my 
environment is lar

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

I couldn't care less when they deposit it. If it's over 30 days, my bank 
e-mails me. 

For many things, it will direct deposit them. 

bill the CC anything that I can, autopay the CC, bank's billpay the rest. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:31:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

 

all our tower rent tenents 
any bill that comes in 
paychecks 
i'm happy with it. 
for one, if i have the bank write the check the money comes out instantly and i 
can't see when the other party cashed it. 
we write nearly 100 checks a month 



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better? 

I haven't written a check in years. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" < par...@cyberbroadband.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

 

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks 



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Who prints checks? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "James Howard" < ja...@litewire.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 



Are you printing checks from QB? If you use a 3 rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online. There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either. Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all. 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


That never ends well on Windows servers =( 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify... since at least XP. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

You need to update the thing every week, of course. Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows. Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Do you even Linux updates, bro? 

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

I am now. I want to get away from it. If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big deal 
but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment... 
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died. 

Run 

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

all our tower rent tenents
any bill that comes in
paychecks
i'm happy with it.
for one, if i have the bank write the check the money comes out instantly and i 
can't see when the other party cashed it.
we write nearly 100 checks a month

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better?

  I haven't written a check in years.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

   

  i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


Who prints checks?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "James Howard" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.  





From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts



That never ends well on Windows servers =(






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

  Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule 
you specify...  since at least XP.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




--

  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily 
use Quickbooks every day.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it 
takes to update?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it 
is done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is 
a simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt...






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wrote:

  Do you even Linux updates, bro?

  I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment 
is larger than yours?



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




--

  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't 
be a big deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wrote:

I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual 
environment...  until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.

Run it in your existing virtual env

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better? 

I haven't written a check in years. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

 

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks 



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Who prints checks? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "James Howard" < ja...@litewire.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 



Are you printing checks from QB? If you use a 3 rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online. There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either. Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all. 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


That never ends well on Windows servers =( 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify... since at least XP. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

You need to update the thing every week, of course. Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows. Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Do you even Linux updates, bro? 

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

I am now. I want to get away from it. If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big deal 
but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment... 
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died. 

Run it in your existing virtual environment? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 



pretty much as fast as you can click the check box 





On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Instant on being genuinely instant? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Who prints checks?




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "James Howard" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.  





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts



  That never ends well on Windows servers =(






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule 
you specify...  since at least XP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

  So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes 
to update?



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




--

  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it is 
done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt...






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett  
wrote:

Do you even Linux updates, bro?

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is 
larger than yours?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't be 
a big deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wrote:

  I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual 
environment...  until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.

  Run it in your existing virtual environment?



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




--

  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  To: "WISPA General List" 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month?






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

pretty much as fast as you can click the check box



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Instant on being genuinely instant?






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne S

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> From: "Tim Reichhart"  
> To: "WISPA General List"  
> Date: 11/25/14 06:30 AM 
> Subject: [WISPA] Selling brand new wireless gear 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

*grumble* FB has been rough on me today. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "James Howard"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:48:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 



You’re losing your touch Mike. It should have been: 

Friends don’t let friends print checks. 



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Who prints checks? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -


From: "James Howard" < ja...@litewire.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 
Are you printing checks from QB? If you use a 3 rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online. There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either. Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all. 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


That never ends well on Windows servers =( 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify... since at least XP. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

You need to update the thing every week, of course. Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows. Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Do you even Linux updates, bro? 

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

I am now. I want to get away from it. If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big deal 
but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment... 
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died. 

Run it in your existing virtual environment? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 



pretty much as fast as you can click the check box 





On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Instant on being genuinely instant? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Hesk

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

Their AP must be ran by old people, gosh, at least 40. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:32:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


Nearly every one of my business customers. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Who prints checks? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "James Howard" < ja...@litewire.net > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 



Are you printing checks from QB? If you use a 3 rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online. There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either. Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all. 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


That never ends well on Windows servers =( 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify... since at least XP. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

You need to update the thing every week, of course. Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows. Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Do you even Linux updates, bro? 

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

I am now. I want to get away from it. If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big deal 
but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment... 
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died. 

Run it in your existing virtual environment? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 



pretty much as fast as you can click the check box 





On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Instant on being genuinely instant? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 


You can turn aws on and off as nee

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[James Howard]

You’re losing your touch Mike.  It should have been:

Friends don’t let friends print checks.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

Who prints checks?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "James Howard" mailto:ja...@litewire.net>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

That never ends well on Windows servers =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify...  since at least XP.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Do you even Linux updates, bro?

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big 
deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment...  
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.

Run it in your existing virtual environment?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett 
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
pretty much as fast as you can click the check box

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Instant on being genuinely instant?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett 
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
You can turn aws on and off as needed.  You just click a button on a web page 
and it's instant on.  You can also schedule it to turn on and off


On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@ima

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Josh Luthman]

Nearly every one of my business customers.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> Who prints checks?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"James Howard" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print
> checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB
> online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process
> did not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something
> like 6 months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
>
>
> That never ends well on Windows servers =(
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule
> you specify...  since at least XP.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily use
> Quickbooks every day.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes
> to update?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it is
> done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which
> is a simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing
> before and after halt...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> Do you even Linux updates, bro?
>
> I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is
> larger than yours?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't be a
> big deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual
> environment...  until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.
>
> Run it in your existing virtual environment?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> pretty much as fast as you can click the check box
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Instant on being genuinely instant?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> You can turn aws on and off as needed.  You just click a button on a web
> page and it's instant on.  You can also schedule it to turn on and off
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Any idea what AWS would cost for something like this?  I feel like it
> would eat lots of resources all day every day and I'd only use it a couple
> of hours a week tops.  It would be annoying to shut it down to save

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Mike Hammett]

Who prints checks? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "James Howard"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 



Are you printing checks from QB? If you use a 3 rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online. There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either. Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all. 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 


That never ends well on Windows servers =( 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify... since at least XP. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

You need to update the thing every week, of course. Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows. Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




Do you even Linux updates, bro? 

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

I am now. I want to get away from it. If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big deal 
but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment... 
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died. 

Run it in your existing virtual environment? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM 



Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts 

Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 



pretty much as fast as you can click the check box 





On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Instant on being genuinely instant? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 


You can turn aws on and off as needed. You just click a button on a web page 
and it's instant on. You can also schedule it to turn on and off 




On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Any idea what AWS would cost for something like this? I feel like it would eat 
lots of resources all day every day and I'd only use it a couple of hours a 
week tops. It would be annoying to shut it down to save resources, too. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:27

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Josh Luthman]

There's a function in QB to talk to Chase.  That's how we do AP.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:12 AM, James Howard  wrote:

> Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print
> checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB
> online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process
> did not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something
> like 6 months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
>
>
> That never ends well on Windows servers =(
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule
> you specify...  since at least XP.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily use
> Quickbooks every day.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes
> to update?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it is
> done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which
> is a simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing
> before and after halt...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> Do you even Linux updates, bro?
>
> I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is
> larger than yours?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't be a
> big deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual
> environment...  until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.
>
> Run it in your existing virtual environment?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>
> Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> pretty much as fast as you can click the check box
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Instant on being genuinely instant?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> You can turn aws on and off as needed.  You just click a button on a web
> page and it's instant on.  You can also schedule it to turn on and off
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Any idea what AWS would cost for something like this?  I feel like it
> would eat lots of resources all day every day and I'd only use it a couple
> of hours a week tops.  It would be annoying to shut it down to save
> resources, too.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>
> You could also go the vm route using aws / rackspace / ect.  I’ve h

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[James Howard]

Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

That never ends well on Windows servers =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule you 
specify...  since at least XP.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes to 
update?


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it is done 
you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Do you even Linux updates, bro?

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is larger 
than yours?


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't be a big 
deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual environment...  
until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.

Run it in your existing virtual environment?


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett 
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
pretty much as fast as you can click the check box

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Instant on being genuinely instant?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett 
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
You can turn aws on and off as needed.  You just click a button on a web page 
and it's instant on.  You can also schedule it to turn on and off


On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Any idea what AWS would cost for something like this?  I feel like it would eat 
lots of resources all day every day and I'd only use it a couple of hours a 
week tops.  It would be annoying to shut it down to save resources, too.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
mailto:car...@race.com>> wrote:
You could also go the vm route using aws / rackspace / ect.  I’ve heard from 
some people that the online quickbooks is not as full featured as the 
application version.


Carlos Alcantar
Race Communicat

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