Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread Jeremy Austin
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 3:47 PM David Funderburk  wrote:
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> We have  a small accounting firm that wants a mixture of desk phones and 
> cordless phones. The older people are used to desk phones and want to keep it 
> that way.  The younger employees prefer cordless so they can move around the 
> office while talking to clients. Both want to have features such as call 
> transfer, park, etc on their phones.

Got it.

If you're using a SIP cordless, features will be activated via DTMF
(and out-of-band signaling). If you're using a PBX that calls cell #s,
or softphones... features will be activated via DTMF.

If you want to go super fancy, there are DECT cell systems that allow
full roaming within the coverage area. I have run Aastra, haven't
tried Panasonic's system. We ran into weird issues like not being able
to dial zero, and phones that were many years behind state of the art.

From the perspective of the younger employees, a SIP phone is just a
cell phone that's broken because it can't run apps.

And if you want Bluetooth + mobile, be prepared to pay $300+ per handset.

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> David
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> On 2018/06/29 17:09, Jeremy Austin wrote:
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> By cellular I also include VoWifi.
>
> I'm having a hard time seeing the general use case for SIP rather than
> VoWifi. At present, largely what we get is presence notification — SIP
> busy status.
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM Grand Avenue Broadband
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> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
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> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?
>
>
> Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell 
> boys haven't...
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread David Funderburk
 

We have a small accounting firm that wants a mixture of desk phones and
cordless phones. The older people are used to desk phones and want to
keep it that way. The younger employees prefer cordless so they can move
around the office while talking to clients. Both want to have features
such as call transfer, park, etc on their phones. 

 David 

On 2018/06/29 17:09, Jeremy Austin wrote: 

> By cellular I also include VoWifi.
> 
> I'm having a hard time seeing the general use case for SIP rather than
> VoWifi. At present, largely what we get is presence notification -- SIP
> busy status.
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM Grand Avenue Broadband
>  wrote: 
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
>> 
>> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?
>> 
>> Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell 
>> boys haven't...
>> 
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>> Circle City to Wickenburg and surrounding areas
>> http://grandavebb.com [1]
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread Jim Edwards
Cost of the phone?

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By cellular I also include VoWifi.

I'm having a hard time seeing the general use case for SIP rather than
VoWifi. At present, largely what we get is presence notification — SIP
busy status.
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM Grand Avenue Broadband
 wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
>
> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?
>
>
> Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell 
> boys haven't...
>
> --
>   Grand Avenue Broadband -- Wireless Internet Service
>  Circle City to Wickenburg and surrounding areas
>   http://grandavebb.com
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread Jeremy Austin
By cellular I also include VoWifi.

I'm having a hard time seeing the general use case for SIP rather than
VoWifi. At present, largely what we get is presence notification — SIP
busy status.
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM Grand Avenue Broadband
 wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
>
> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?
>
>
> Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell 
> boys haven't...
>
> --
>   Grand Avenue Broadband -- Wireless Internet Service
>  Circle City to Wickenburg and surrounding areas
>   http://grandavebb.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread Grand Avenue Broadband

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
> 
> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?

Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell boys 
haven't...

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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread Jeremy Austin
I can't say I like any SIP cordless phones.

I have used some, though…

Siemens and Panasonic have functional SIP-DECT. (Grandstream has some
too, but they have some build quality issues.)

Any other RF method is not ideal for voice.

Some people have success with softphone apps, WiFi that supports QoS,
and a smartphone — Bria worked well for us for a few years, less so
recently.

What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?

Jeremy

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:30 PM David Funderburk
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> Anyone using any SIP cordless phones for business you like and would 
> recommend?
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[WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

2018-06-29 Thread David Funderburk
 

Anyone using any SIP cordless phones for business you like and would
recommend? 

 David 

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