[WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[Pat O'Connor]

Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S.  Just wanted to see what tools 
are available for wireless installers.

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Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables

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http://www.amazon.com/F4-Tape-Self-fusing-Silicone-Black/dp/B002LA2258

I use this stuff and never had a proble.


On 2/8/2012 12:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote:


We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 
3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even 
with a solid wrap. Any suggestions?






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[WISPA] Truck Mounted Survey Antennas

[Pat O'Connor]

Does anyone have recommendations on truck mounted antennas for 2.4GHz 
and 5.8GHz?  (magnetic mount)


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Re: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz and HAMs

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http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Hambands_color.pdf

looks like 3300-3500MHz is available


On 1/10/2012 9:03 AM, Jon Auer wrote:
> On some online forums I have been seeing people claiming to be hams
> saying that they can use 3.65 Ghz as it is a ham band.
> Now, I thought it was for something else and now is license lite. Is
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Re: [WISPA] 3650 MHz permission letters?

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You have to contact who manages the Satellite Earth Station and they 
usually have an application and various forms to fill out.  If you're 
dealing with SES Americom, have fun.  I don't know of one that they have 
approved.


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On 12/12/2011 11:20 AM, Fred R. Goldstein wrote:
> Does anyone have a standard letter to use to ask permission from
> satellite earth stations to use the 3650 MHz band within the 150 mile
> exclusion zone?  Thanks.
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[WISPA] Bandwidth shaping and QOS

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What is everybody using?  Looking to dump Net Enforcer for something else.

300+ subs, mix of Cisco 1250 and UBNT AP's.

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[WISPA] Applying for an experimental TVWS License

[Pat O'Connor]

Does anybody know the proper code for applying for this license?

I can't tell what it is on the FCC site.

Also.  Anybody testing this gear right now?

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket Availability

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Scott Reed wrote:
> Anyone know where I can find 1 or 2 pair of Ubiquiti Rocket M5 and 2' 
> dishes?
>
>   
Check with Philip Rose or Boun Senekham from Double Radius


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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

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Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just 
authenticating from the MAC access list?


Andy Trimmell wrote:
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> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their 
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that 
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can’t figure out why 
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won’t connect. Same credentials and 
> everything……
>
> I get “authentication failed – radius timeout”
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I’ve 
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
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> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] chipset vs standard based beam forming?

[Pat O'Connor]

A good primer on 802.11n.  Beamfroring starts at page 6.





Brough Turner wrote:
> As Mike points out, beamforming is an optional part of the 802.11n 
> standard and there is at least some silicon support for this option 
> emerging (more on that in a moment).  The confusion arises because 
> there are several different things which are legitimately called 
> beamforming. 
>
> The simplest is a switched beamformer in which there are multiple 
> directional antenna elements and the radio is connected to the 
> appropriate elements as needed.  This is what Ruckus Wireless does 
> today.  They have 12 or more fixed elements and on a frame-by-frame 
> basis they decide which two of those elements to connect to the two 
> terminals on the Atheros (2x2 MIMO) Wi-Fi chip.  A bunch of people 
> have patents here, but the ideas are very old so the patents may not 
> be very valuable.
>
> Next is phased array beamformers.  Here there are multiple simple 
> antenna elements typically equally spaced in an array.  Phase delays 
> are introduced so, via constructive and destructive interference, you 
> end up with a beam.  Then that beam is steered by varying the phase 
> delays.  This is also well established technologies that the military 
> have been using for (many) decades.
>
> Finally, in MIMO systems, maximal-ratio-combining (MRC) is doing 
> receive beamforming in as much as the computation is equivalent to 
> placing the maximum receive lobe as close to the desired signal while 
> placing nulls as close as possible to the primary interferers.
>
> While the widespead 2x2 MIMO chips are primarily used for horizontal 
> and vertical polarization, 3x3 and 4x4 MIMO chips are emerging.  With 
> 4x4 we can expect to see transmit beamforming via phasing and receive 
> beamforming via MRC.  Indeed, two silicon startups, Quantenna 
> Communications in California and Celeno Wireless in Israel, have 
> announced Wi-Fi chips that support 4x4 MIMO with transmit 
> beamforming.  The Quantenna chip is used in the Netgear WNHDB3004.
>
> The 802.11n standard specifies how the needed information is passed, 
> so the computations that Quantenna and Celeno (and others in the 
> future) do can be carried out when devices from different vendors 
> interoperate.
> Thanks,
> Brough
>
> Skype: brough   Mobile: +1 617 285 0433
> http://blogs.broughturner.com
>   
>
> On 10/26/10 12:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4558648
>>
>> "In the IEEE 802.11n draft standard, beamforming is adopted as an 
>> optional feature to improve signal reception and simplify receiver design."
>>
>> Beamforming is available in 802.11N, though I don't know of any products 
>> using that standard.
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/25/2010 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> 
>>> Rogelio,
>>>
>>> Please don't take this the wrong way. You are trying to understand a
>>> very complex 'patented' technology via a very simplistic understanding.
>>>
>>> Beam forming is a very complex (lots of analytical analysis done on a
>>> real time basis)  technology, there are a number of Masters&  PHD Thesis
>>> papers on this topic that you can find by Googling.
>>>
>>> There is no 'chipset' for it Each of the folks you mention utilize
>>> 'internally  developed' patented techniques of applying the 'Beam
>>> Forming" concept. so there is no 'standard' the chipset are simple
>>> transmitters and signal processors  (math units..)
>>>
>>> The beam forming technology works in both direction (sending&
>>> receiving). There is no such thing as a 'omni' beam forming
>>> antenna.  The antenna pattern is dynamically changed to focus / lock on
>>> to the signal of the CPE that the AP is talking to.
>>>
>>> Plus, there is NO 'Beam Forming" Standard...and don't expect one in the
>>> future. since it is more of a 'type of antenna design' and not a
>>> 'defined formula'.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
>>>
>>> On 10/25/2010 5:54 PM, Rogelio wrote:
>>>   
 I see lots of discussion about the new 802.11n standard supporting
 beam forming, and I'm trying to wade through the chipset ones (e.g.
 Ruckus, Extricom, Meru, etc) and other solutions that claim to be more
 standards based.

 
>  From what I gather from the marketing literature, the various vendor
>   
 solutions direct the signal "more efficiently" towards specific
 targets (focusing beam in certain direction, monitoring interference,
 "interference nulling", etc), but that seems to have limited
 effectiveness when it comes to receiving transmitted packets from the
 client end (resulting in slow uplink?).  In some of these cases, the
 receive antennas are just an omni antenna. (802.11 is not a timing
 based protocol, so I don't see how beamforming benefits on the receive
 

Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

[Pat O'Connor]

In my experience Tranzeo and UBNT don't play nice together.  If you 
don't mind switching out your tranzeo CPE's with UBNT gear you'll be fine.


Steve Barnes wrote:
>
> All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT.   I 
> have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about 
> slowdowns.  They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g.  This is a 
> tower that due to contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment.  
> So I am considering taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and 
> putting up a UBNT Rocket and Airmax 120 sector.  It will take time to 
> physically switch all my clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but 
> would like to get it done before the snow flies. 
>
>  
>
> Has anyone down this?  Success?  I know I cannot turn on Airmax till 
> everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine 
> till you get it on?
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[WISPA] 900MHz Backhaul Solutions

[Pat O'Connor]

I just want to see what everyone else is using and what their 
experiences are.

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste

[Pat O'Connor]

Marlon was that the NoaNet build out?




Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> We protested a project out here.
>
> A fiber build with wireless overlay.
>
> There is already fiber, DSL AND wireless.
>
> The project was funded anyway.
>
> It's not about the consumer folks  And it's CERTAINLY NOT about using 
> OUR money efficiently.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste
>
>
>   
>> I filed 32 protests during the first round of the stimulus plan, and
>> none of them were funded.
>>
>> Protest long and protest often.   From what I have seen so far, most of
>> the frivolous projects have been rejected handily.   Don't get all
>> worked up about the "waste" until it finally comes to pass.   It was
>> pretty clear from looking at the first round apps that there were a lot
>> of stupid, wasteful applications.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
>> On 4/7/2010 7:29 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thats 26 Y E A R S of my higher end tier of service, per customer.
>>>
>>> Why the #3!! do things not get BID out? "Who can do X users for the 
>>> lowest $"
>>> I mean come on, that is just horrible. It doesnt even factor in what
>>> those new users
>>> will be paying for the service. I need to find out if they have
>>> applies for my area, I
>>> manage client networks with qwest dsl and they have been giving some BS 
>>> about
>>> upgrading modems (for a /mo fee) when all the sites have adsl2+ modems. 
>>> Not good
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Hi,

 So, as I said since the Broadband Stimulus act was passed, the money
 will be wasted. Qwest just applied for $467 MILLION dollars to upgrade
 their DSL infrastructure in my coverage areas. They want to expand and
 "upgrade the slower 7meg connections" to go up to "12 to 40 megabytes
 per second".

 The article says they will increase coverage to 29,922 new customers.
 That's an average cost of $15,607 PER CUSTOMER.

 Many of the areas they list (Idaho Falls, Rexburg, Ammon, Blackfoot,
 Rigby, Shelley, etc.) already have at least 3 providers and some have 4
 or 5 provider choices.

 Let the waste begin :(

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?

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Correction:  RF Studies on a case by case basis done by Comsearch.





Pat O'Connor wrote:
> lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
>   
>> Never say never.  Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty 
>> confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study 
>> and maybe a waiver request.  Depends on how bad you want it
>>
>> -B-
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>   
>> 
> Yes it does depend on how bad you want it.  I don't want it bad enough 
> to have to pay  for each customer location have to be approved on a case 
> by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands.
>
> Ask Marlon about these clowns.
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> I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+  foot ridge lines / mountain 
> ranges between us.  Not to mention my base stations are pointed away 
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>> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
>>
>> If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never 
>> as far as being able to deploy WiMax.
>>
>>
>> ralphlists wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame
>>> for the base station registration as well.
>>>
>>> It's not me. It is for a friend.
>>> My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came
>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
>>>
>>> Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license?
>>>
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>>>> How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license?
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?

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lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
> Never say never.  Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty 
> confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study 
> and maybe a waiver request.  Depends on how bad you want it
>
> -B-
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>   
Yes it does depend on how bad you want it.  I don't want it bad enough 
to have to pay  for each customer location have to be approved on a case 
by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands.

Ask Marlon about these clowns.

I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+  foot ridge lines / mountain 
ranges between us.  Not to mention my base stations are pointed away 
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> From: "Pat O'Connor" 
> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
>
> If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never 
> as far as being able to deploy WiMax.
>
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> ralphlists wrote:
>   
>> It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame
>> for the base station registration as well.
>>
>> It's not me. It is for a friend.
>> My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came
>> out.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
>>
>> Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license?
>>
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>>
>> On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?

[Pat O'Connor]

Ours took about 25 days



ralphlists wrote:
> Thanks
>
> I'm not in any exclusion zone and there's no weird circumstances.
> I'm really just looking to find someone who recently got a license to tell
> me how long it actually took.
> And then of course I'd like to find someone who recently added a base
> station so I can get an idea of that timing as well.
>
> I'm looking for something like " I just received my nationwide and it took
> 23 days"   or "I just registered a base station and it took 4 days".
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:11 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
>
> If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never 
> as far as being able to deploy WiMax.
>
>
> ralphlists wrote:
>   
>> It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame
>> for the base station registration as well.
>>
>> It's not me. It is for a friend.
>> My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first
>> 
> came
>   
>> out.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
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>> Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote:
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>> 
>>> How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license?
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?

[Pat O'Connor]

If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never 
as far as being able to deploy WiMax.


ralphlists wrote:
> It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame
> for the base station registration as well.
>
> It's not me. It is for a friend.
> My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came
> out.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
>
> Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license?
>
>
>
> On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote:
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>> How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Tech support: Windows XP Blue Screen of Death

[Pat O'Connor]

MS update KB977165 is the culprit.  If you remove that update through 
the recovery console the computer will boot and work properly.


Steve Barnes wrote:
> For those of you who do tech support.  We have had 6 computers come in to our 
> repair center today that have Windows XP that all they do in normal or safe 
> mode is give a Blue Screen of Death.  They all claim that their computers did 
> a windows update yesterday and after that they no longer work.  Since we 
> supply the internet it must be our fault.  We have found no fix but a windows 
> reload.
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> This is for informational purposes only for your tech support departments.
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Pat O'Connor]

I want to use the Bullet for a CPE.  Sorry, I should have clarified what 
I was looking for in my original post.


Josh Luthman wrote:
> I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P
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> --- Albert Einstein
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> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.  If
>> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in some
>> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM
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>> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
>> Bullet M5HP
>>
>> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
>> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
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>> TIA
>>
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[WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Pat O'Connor]

Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase 
of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.

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Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

[Pat O'Connor]

Scotch Lock each pair together.  Wrap two pairs around the main wire in 
one direction, and two in the other direction.  Cover with a RG-11 coax  
splice boot.  It's filled with non-conductive gel.


Scott Reed wrote:
> I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in September.  
> I put a jack at the ground and a plug on the remaining cable and wrapped 
> it up as well as I could, knowing I would be back. Sure enough, today I 
> went back to re-fix it in the sleet.  What fun.  I think it is better 
> because I used a cat5 splice device and filled it  with RTV.
> Anyone have a way to fix a cable that is underground?  I would rather 
> not run a new cable and make her bury another one if there is another way.
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

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We're switching to this over this weekend.

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rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
> One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP, 
> which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
>
> It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not 
> on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules 
> put on the server.
>
> You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered outbound 
> through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate ports and 
> using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail directly out.
>
> I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.
>
> ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an 
> authentication and filtering of outbound emails.
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> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
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>   
>> Hi All,
>>
>> What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
>> reliability, ease of use etc.
>>
>> Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't 
>> catch
>> things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This 
>> has
>> now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
>>
>> My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
>> limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang 
>> off
>> the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
>>
>> The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
>> 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
>> address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not 
>> even
>> mine (faked info).  sigh
>>
>> We use Courier MTA.
>>
>> My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day 
>> per
>> user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of 
>> messages
>> received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all 
>> those
>> sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
>> the server admins.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Exclusion Zone

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It is being 150km form the grandfathered earth station.  I'm going 
through the same thing right now getting an agreement from them to 
operate WiMax gear.  BTW I'm at a 145km distance from them, but the FCC 
won't register my base stations without an agreement.



3-dB Networks wrote:
> Okay I'm banging my head against the wall a bit this morning J
>
>  
>
> Subpart Z of the FCC Part 90 Rules - Wireless Broadband Serices in the
> 3650-3700 MHz Band - Section 90.1331 states:
>
>  
>
> "(a)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (a)(2) of this section, base and
> fixed stations may not be located within 150 km of any grandfathered
> satellite earth station operating in the 3650-3700 MHz band. The coordinates
> of these stations are available at http://www.fcc.gov/ib/sd/3650";
>
>  
>
> My interpretation of that rule would mean that you need to draw a circle of
> a radius of 150Km from each station, and this is your exclusion zone.
>
>  
>
> Yet many maps on the web show this 150Km requirement as diameter. not as a
> radius.
>
>  
>
> Our office would be outside of the exclusion zone if it is a diameter
> requirement, yet inside the exclusion zone if it is a radius requirement.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone point me to something from the FCC that specifies what the
> requirement is?
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
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Re: [WISPA] Finding Available Licensed Frequencies

[Pat O'Connor]

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp


Forbes Mercy wrote:
> Is there a tool or resource to find out if certain frequencies are
> available or who owns them to lease them?  I'm particularly looking for
> 2.5 in my area.
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> Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?

[Pat O'Connor]

Interesting article in regards to your topic. 

http://www.voipplanet.com/trends/article.php/3820346


I'm out here in the sticks with limited cell coverage in a lot of areas 
and this looks like a promising line of business.


George Rogato wrote:
> Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still 
> make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service?
>
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Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

[Pat O'Connor]

I won't sell the router just because I don't even want them to think I 
will support anything other than the hardware I provide.





Martha Huizenga wrote:
> We charge $49 and that includes the router.
>
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>   
>> Lol.  That's the same crap I go through with the local Radio Shack. 
>>
>> This happened just yesterday.
>>
>> Radio Shack:  "Your service isn't working we can't connect to the 
>> internet"
>>
>> Me:  (after verifying settings on the router)  Do you have the cable 
>> from the POE injector plugged into port 1 again on the router, or is it 
>> in the WAN port?
>>
>> Radio Shack:  Oh Uh Sorry.
>>
>> No less than 5 times this year already.
>>
>>
>>
>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Yeah, I know. But after fixing what geeksquad or *shudder* Staples 
>>> breaks over and over (usually for free because I am easy) I just had to 
>>> throw that in.
>>>
>>> My favorite customer quote: "IT CAN'T BE BROKEN, IT MUST BE YOUR 
>>> SERVICE! STAPLES FIXED IT!!!" In this case, I was being blamed for a 
>>> printer not working oh, I plugged it into the USB port to fix it!
>>>
>>> *sigh*
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>> Pat O'Connor wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> They have to pay for the uniforms and stylish vehicles somehow. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> Have you seen what geeksquad charges?
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computer/category.aspx?id=2567>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't sell yourself short. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat O'Connor wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> I was thinking a $35 fee  for on site setup.  A $20 fee if they brought 
>>>>>> the router in within 48 hrs of the scheduled installation date.   Is 
>>>>>> this appropriate?  What are the rest of you doing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pat
>>>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

[Pat O'Connor]

Lol.  That's the same crap I go through with the local Radio Shack. 

This happened just yesterday.

Radio Shack:  "Your service isn't working we can't connect to the 
internet"

Me:  (after verifying settings on the router)  Do you have the cable 
from the POE injector plugged into port 1 again on the router, or is it 
in the WAN port?

Radio Shack:  Oh Uh Sorry.

No less than 5 times this year already.



D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> Yeah, I know. But after fixing what geeksquad or *shudder* Staples 
> breaks over and over (usually for free because I am easy) I just had to 
> throw that in.
>
> My favorite customer quote: "IT CAN'T BE BROKEN, IT MUST BE YOUR 
> SERVICE! STAPLES FIXED IT!!!" In this case, I was being blamed for a 
> printer not working oh, I plugged it into the USB port to fix it!
>
> *sigh*
>
> ryan
>
> Pat O'Connor wrote:
>   
>> They have to pay for the uniforms and stylish vehicles somehow. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Have you seen what geeksquad charges?
>>>
>>> <http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computer/category.aspx?id=2567>
>>>
>>> Don't sell yourself short. :)
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>> Pat O'Connor wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> I was thinking a $35 fee  for on site setup.  A $20 fee if they brought 
>>>> the router in within 48 hrs of the scheduled installation date.   Is 
>>>> this appropriate?  What are the rest of you doing?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Pat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

[Pat O'Connor]

They have to pay for the uniforms and stylish vehicles somehow. ;-)




D. Ryan Spott wrote:



> Have you seen what geeksquad charges?
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>> I was thinking a $35 fee  for on site setup.  A $20 fee if they brought 
>> the router in within 48 hrs of the scheduled installation date.   Is 
>> this appropriate?  What are the rest of you doing?
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>> Thanks,
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[WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?

[Pat O'Connor]

I was thinking a $35 fee  for on site setup.  A $20 fee if they brought 
the router in within 48 hrs of the scheduled installation date.   Is 
this appropriate?  What are the rest of you doing?

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Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

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Geeze.  Not comforting at all.



Aperto is my first choice now because I believe they use TR-069.  But I 
wanted to see if anyone had used Airspan's Macromax product.




Matt Liotta wrote:
> http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/business/epaper/2009/04/20/0420airspan.html
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> -Matt
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> On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Pat O'Connor wrote:
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>   
>> Anybody use Airspan for Wimax?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Baird wrote:
>> 
>>> It was interesting, but I was hoping for some more first hand  
>>> experience
>>> reporting. Essentially the only explanation for improved range was a
>>> lower noise floor, which isn't a wimax thing, but a 3.65 thing. I  
>>> think
>>> a lot of the 802.16d/e talk is market speak, I'm trying to get  
>>> through
>>> that and establish technical reasons why one or the other is  
>>> superior.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
>>>   
>>>> So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to  
>>>> read up
>>>> on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed
>>>> deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets  
>>>> (wireless
>>>> local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user wireless  
>>>> they
>>>> can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of whatever CPE. Wimax
>>>> directly to the end device doesn't make much sense to me, in most
>>>> markets and use cases. Obviously if you are supporting a highly  
>>>> mobile
>>>> workforce (say public sector type stuff) then it makes a lot more  
>>>> sense.
>>>>
>>>> It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an  
>>>> un(der)served
>>>> market, it seems that it would not make sense to deploy standard  
>>>> 802.11
>>>> gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this an accurate  
>>>> assessment?
>>>>
>>>> One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband
>>>> available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to  
>>>> purchase
>>>> CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get from Best Buy
>>>> (DSL or Cable modem).
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in
>>>> Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access  
>>>> it
>>>> will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition.
>>>>
>>>> So who are the vendors in this space worth considering?
>>>> What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and  
>>>> post
>>>> sales engineering)
>>>> etc etc.
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Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

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Anybody use Airspan for Wimax?



Michael Baird wrote:
> It was interesting, but I was hoping for some more first hand experience 
> reporting. Essentially the only explanation for improved range was a 
> lower noise floor, which isn't a wimax thing, but a 3.65 thing. I think 
> a lot of the 802.16d/e talk is market speak, I'm trying to get through 
> that and establish technical reasons why one or the other is superior.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>   
>> So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to read up 
>> on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed 
>> deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets (wireless 
>> local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user wireless they 
>> can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of whatever CPE. Wimax 
>> directly to the end device doesn't make much sense to me, in most 
>> markets and use cases. Obviously if you are supporting a highly mobile 
>> workforce (say public sector type stuff) then it makes a lot more sense.
>>
>> It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an un(der)served 
>> market, it seems that it would not make sense to deploy standard 802.11 
>> gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this an accurate assessment?
>>
>> One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband 
>> available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to purchase 
>> CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get from Best Buy 
>> (DSL or Cable modem).
>>
>> I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in 
>> Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access it 
>> will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition.
>>
>> So who are the vendors in this space worth considering?
>> What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and post 
>> sales engineering)
>> etc etc.
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Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

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Marlon I checked the map, and like me, Odessa is within the 150km 
satellite exclusion zone for the station located in Brewster.  From what 
I've read you need to get their permission to operate anything in the 
3.65GHz spectrum.  I just applied for our 3.65GHz licnse so I haven't 
heard anything yet.  If you want I have a .kmz file I can send you with 
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Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Thanks!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Valenti" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
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>> Marlon,
>>
>> I watched the tranzeo wimax 3.65 webinar a few weeks back. They have
>> that pico base station for about $1700. I asked, and they said yes, it
>> would work with an omni. I know everybody says don't use an omni, but
>> maybe it would be OK on 3.65?
>>
>> I was curious because most of my grain legs would max out at 20
>> customers (due to trees). And I certainly wouldn't want to buy three
>> sectors just to support 20 houses.
>>
>> They do have a starter kit that includes two(?) customer radios for
>> free.  I'm out of money for testing things, but let us know if you try
>> it.
>> -John
>>
>> PS - they can sync multiple base stations from a central server.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I'm looking into this too.
>>>
>>> So far I can't find a solution for rural towers.  A 3 sector install
>>> at
>>> $20k?  Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even see that
>>> tower
>>>
>>> Anyone have any better ideas?
>>> marlon
>>>   
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[WISPA] Has anybody received a 3.65GHz license in a satellite exclusion zone?

[Pat O'Connor]

I fall just on the edge of one.  I wanted to know what others have 
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Re: [WISPA] NS2 and EOC-2610

[Pat O'Connor]

I saw the same results a month ago when I bought a few of the EOC-2610.  
Make sure you're using the latest firmware.

http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/products/resources.aspx?cat=7&ID=246

That problem went away after I flashed them, and they work great.

Pat


Blair Davis wrote:
> Some interesting results from a side by side comparison of these radios...
>
> ubquity NS2
> firmware XS2.ar2316.v3.1.1.3498.080725.1324
> ap sees radio at -77
> radio sees ap at -76
>
> EnGenius EOC-2610
> firmware 1.0.30
> ap sees radio at -76
> radio sees ap at -89
>
> Transfer rates are within 5% of each other
> Error rate is within 1%
>
> a couple of older radios I had on hand, hooked to an 9db patch, 
> mounted in the same place as the NS2/EOC-2610, reported rssi values 
> within 3 db or the NS2.
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> Looks like the reported rssi on the EOC-2610 is off quite a bit.
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> Comments?
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[WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know what you think.

[Pat O'Connor]

We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different 
locations because of interference issues.  So far they have the most 
compelling price point.  I'd like to know how well it works in the 
field.  All opinions appreciated.  Hit me off list if you want to.\

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[WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Pat O'Connor]

Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA

5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim 
gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they 
are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.

Link distance: 8.3 miles

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[WISPA] Is there a minimum distance an amplifier has to be placed from a DC power injector?

[Pat O'Connor]

Antennas placed at the top of a 150' tower
.5 watt amp
180' run of LDF 5/8"




I'd like for both to be inside our building.  If  I don't have to place 
the amp on  the tower I don't want to, because this location gets about 
6' of snow a year.


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Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

[Pat O'Connor]

We're just starting to test this program.  It's free so what the heck.

http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/




Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Guaranteeing latency
>
> One of the things we learned is that the ISP can't measure the customer's 
> experience of latency accurately. And if the can;t measure it, they cant 
> guarantee it.
> When pings initiate from the AP side, they always send without delay.
> When pings initiate from the SU side, they can be delayed from the polling 
> or competing for their timeslice to transmit.
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
>
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> We don't use DHCP. Every single customer gets a real, static IP address.
>> We also a assign a static IP address to every radio (for management).
>>
>> When I posted the question a month ago about how to force an SM to
>> connect to a specific AP on a tower, the only answer was "color code".
>> This isn't really an option, as that means the installer has to change
>> the color code in the field. All of our current radios are setup and
>> ready to connect to ANY tower and ANY AP on that tower without the
>> installer doing anything in the field.
>>
>> And how does first level tech support even find the correct radio in the
>> AP list for a customer on the phone? They have to scroll through 160
>> people to find them by MAC address?
>>
>> Yes, Canopy is a slower radio in today's world. 14Mbps of total
>> throughput on a 20mhz channel is SLOW. Using Mikrotik I can get 30Mbps
>> (double the speed) on the same channel size. Or I can use a 10mhz
>> channel and get 15Mbps. And all these speeds can be delivered via upload
>> or download or any combination, I don't have to set a specific
>> percentage of up/down.
>>
>> And how do you guarantee 7ms latency? What happens if a customer gets
>> 8ms? And how do they test that measurement? And what happens when a
>> customer completely clobbers an AP and 160 customers are getting 20ms
>> latency? Or you have interference from a new provider and all those
>> people get 100ms latency?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>> 
>>> All of the complaints are easily overcome with the proper management 
>>> software, DHCP reservations etc.  You can easily force the SM to connect 
>>> to the exact AP you want a couple different ways.  And there are several 
>>> non motorola software packages that do this kind of stuff.  We have 5000 
>>> subs on it and we don't break a sweat in managing any of this.
>>>
>>> We put 128-160 customers per AP and they all still get 10.2 Mbps burst. 
>>> Slower radio?  That seems pretty fast to me.
>>> And we guarantee latency to 7 mS.  Hmmm, that is pretty hard to do with 
>>> anyone else.
>>>   - Original Message - 
>>>   From: Travis Johnson
>>>   To: WISPA General List
>>>   Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:39 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
>>>
>>>
>>>   We've tried Canopy... twice in fact... once about 3 years ago, and once 
>>> about a month ago. We just can't make it fit into our network management 
>>> (IP database, Call tracking, customer management, etc.) system very 
>>> well... having customer radios that change their LUID and IP address 
>>> every time they register, having to set the bandwidth on each SM instead 
>>> of the AP, having no security or ways to control which AP a customer 
>>> connects to without having to buy their software, etc.
>>>
>>>   All that, plus paying MORE for a slower radio than what we are using 
>>> just didn't make sense. I can put up an AP (2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.4ghz, or 
>>> 5.8ghz) for less than
>>>   $400 that will support 50 customers, using only 10mhz wide channels... 
>>> and each CPE is less than $175 complete (including PoE, antenna).
>>>
>>>   Canopy seems to work well for many people... but I've never been one to 
>>> follow the "norm". And I get to put $50 in my pocket on every install, 
>>> and $1,000 for every AP we put up. ;)
>>>
>>>   Travis
>>>   Microserv
>>>
>>>   Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>> Well that is a testimony to your quality of service for sure.
>>> Now, if you were using Canopy your customers would be even happier!
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
>>>
>>>
>>>   I have Qwest DSL, CableOne, another WISP (doing "up to 4meg" for $29.95
>>> with Canopy), and a licensed WiMax (2.5ghz) provider (doing "up to
>>> 2meg", mobile, for $29.95). I have a lot of competition... and yet we
>>> have no sales people, no real advertising campaign, and more installs
>>> than we can keep up with each month.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>>  

[WISPA] I need to get my CWNA. Anybody know of any good training classes coming up?

[Pat O'Connor]

I can do the 5-day class, and have the budget to travel in the Western US.

I appreciate all your responses.  Have a happy Halloween, and great weekend.


Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna downangle?

[Pat O'Connor]

Thanks!


Tim Kerns wrote:
> Try this
>
> http://www.terabeam.com/support/calculations/index.php
>
>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pat O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
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> Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna 
> downangle?
>
>
>   
>> Yes I'm a WISP newbie.  We have an agreement with a cellular provider to
>> put out antennas on their tower that is next to ours.  The tower is
>> almost twice as big as the one I have now, and our gear will be located
>> at the top.  I have all my elevations, and azimuths for the different
>> tower locations we need to point at.  I was wondering if there was a
>> calculator out there that would allow me to figure out the new down
>> angles.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pat
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[WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna down angle?

[Pat O'Connor]

Yes I'm a WISP newbie.  We have an agreement with a cellular provider to 
put out antennas on their tower that is next to ours.  The tower is 
almost twice as big as the one I have now, and our gear will be located 
at the top.  I have all my elevations, and azimuths for the different 
tower locations we need to point at.  I was wondering if there was a 
calculator out there that would allow me to figure out the new down 
angles. 

Thanks,

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[WISPA] WISP Training

[Pat O'Connor]

I am new to the WISP arena.  My background is in SAN & NAS deployments.  
I was wondering if anyone knew of any training classes coming up soon on 
the West Coast.


Thanks,

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