[WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
in with Active Directory.

Andy Trimmell
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
 Quick and Simple Internet



 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Jason Hensley
Can't the Mikrotik do LDAP auth?  Haven't done it myself but seems like I
remember seeing that it can.  


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Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

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Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
in with Active Directory.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Luthman
AD is active directory.  Active directory is Microsoft's bastardization of
LDAP.

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote:

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


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 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

---
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WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
WISPA Vendor Member
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
Author of Learn RouterOS


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Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
in with Active Directory.

Andy Trimmell
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a
monthly cost flat rate for their service?

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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
just have the MT look at your radius server.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
 own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
 customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
 all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
 when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
 and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
 people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing
solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving
away free wifi somewhere.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
just have the MT look at your radius server.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
 own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
 customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
 all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase
time
 when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete
billing
 and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
 people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
I wonder how they make any money giving it away for free. Maybe I need
to give them a call.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy -

If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the
database,
not how many are online at a time)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it
a
 monthly cost flat rate for their service?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

 Not sure about your AD requirement though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your
suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Turn on the MT hotspot and have it use radius authentication.  The users
that work for the hotspot are in the ip hotspot users db and radius.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing
 solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving
 away free wifi somewhere.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
 just have the MT look at your radius server.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
  own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
  customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
  all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase
 time
  when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete
 billing
  and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
  people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
 
  As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?
 
  ---
  Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
  WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
  WISPA Vendor Member
  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
  LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
  Author of Learn RouterOS
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
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  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Luthman
It's like the free version of Dropbox.  Works 100% just has a limitation
here or there to guilt you into paying them.  Costs them little for every
subscriber.

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I wonder how they make any money giving it away for free. Maybe I need
 to give them a call.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Andy -

 If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

 1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

 2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the
 database,
 not how many are online at a time)

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it
 a
  monthly cost flat rate for their service?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
 
  Gatespot or WirelessOrbit
 
  Not sure about your AD requirement though...
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
  atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:
 
   I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your
 suggestions
   for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
  hotspots
   and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
  30
   locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
  integrate
   in with Active Directory.
  
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   Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Mark McElvy
Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's users or are
you using Microsoft's IAS as a RADIUS server? You could have Freeside
setup to do your new hotspot users, accounts setup automatically via the
Mikrotik interface. 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.



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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Jason Hensley
It's really not that hard to code a web page that will allow someone to sign
up, get their CC info and process it, and then stick their username /
password into either your RADIUS server database or even create an AD user.
Mikrotik can host the page or I think you can have the 'tik forward out to
an external page. 



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing
solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving
away free wifi somewhere.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
just have the MT look at your radius server.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
 own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
 customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
 all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase
time
 when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete
billing
 and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
 people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
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 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
MS IAS.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's users or are
you using Microsoft's IAS as a RADIUS server? You could have Freeside
setup to do your new hotspot users, accounts setup automatically via the
Mikrotik interface. 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.




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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread ralph
No % at all.
It is fixed and is not much. They tell about it at
http://www.wirelessorbit.com/

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a
monthly cost flat rate for their service?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
 Quick and Simple Internet






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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread ralph
2. is not actually correct.

They have a couple of levels of pay service, depending on number of actual
hotspot gateways (routers) you have. The monthly cost is very low.
Their service is great- we have used them since they began and I have
visited their office twice.

They process payments for you through Paypal or Authorize.net (we use this)
and Wireless Orbit does not take a cut of any of your money like all the
others do.

If you want to see what a Mikrotik login portal through Wireless Orbit looks
like, go to one of ours.  Feel free to sign up and buy some Internet if you
want grin 
https://portal.wirelessorbit.com/portal/index.php?portal_id=rewsMlS6KeHyVWVl
pKW-HA,,

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy -

If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the database,
not how many are online at a time)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a
 monthly cost flat rate for their service?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

 Not sure about your AD requirement though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
  PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2009-09-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
We use user manager without issues with Auth.net.

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:10 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2. is not actually correct.

They have a couple of levels of pay service, depending on number of
actual
hotspot gateways (routers) you have. The monthly cost is very low.
Their service is great- we have used them since they began and I have
visited their office twice.

They process payments for you through Paypal or Authorize.net (we use
this)
and Wireless Orbit does not take a cut of any of your money like all the
others do.

If you want to see what a Mikrotik login portal through Wireless Orbit
looks
like, go to one of ours.  Feel free to sign up and buy some Internet if
you
want grin 
https://portal.wirelessorbit.com/portal/index.php?portal_id=rewsMlS6KeHy
VWVl
pKW-HA,,

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy -

If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the
database,
not how many are online at a time)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it
a
 monthly cost flat rate for their service?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

 Not sure about your AD requirement though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your
suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
  PDSWireless
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[WISPA] Hotspot Controller

2006-04-16 Thread Bo Hamilton
Hello list. Im looking for a hotspot controller that has the Credit card service built in? Any help would be greatly a
ppreciated.

Thanks,

Bo Hamilton
NCOWireless.com

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