Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas that work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and when I am running with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it doesn't matter what polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is running at a time. And this is when I have one pol at 5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the spectrum. When I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles. I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the immediate adjacent channels. Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm thinking of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power radios, just haven't decided which one. Chris - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster faster. The word on the street is we're faster than cable dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: That UBTik looks pretty cool. Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N greatness. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi all, in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per routerboard and that worked nicely. Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent channels. that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on the same routerboard. Thank you in advance -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting
Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
I have seen the same problem with the PacWireless dishes. We tried them with PTP400 radios and UBNT Rockets. They will not allow the radios to function full duplex. We went with the Gabriel QuickFire series dishes (both standard and high performance). Full duplex issues resolved. Bobby On 8/21/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Hudson wrote: I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas that work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and when I am running with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it doesn't matter what polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is running at a time. And this is when I have one pol at 5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the spectrum. When I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles. I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the immediate adjacent channels. Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm thinking of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power radios, just haven't decided which one. Chris - Original Message - *From:* RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster faster. The word on the street is we're faster than cable dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com mailto:j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: That UBTik looks pretty cool. Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N greatness. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com mailto:paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi all, in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per routerboard and that worked nicely. Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent channels. that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on the same routerboard. Thank you in advance -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
Who all is carrying the Gabriel dishes? Chris - Original Message - From: Bobby Burrow To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I have seen the same problem with the PacWireless dishes. We tried them with PTP400 radios and UBNT Rockets. They will not allow the radios to function full duplex. We went with the Gabriel QuickFire series dishes (both standard and high performance). Full duplex issues resolved. Bobby On 8/21/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Hudson wrote: I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas that work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and when I am running with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it doesn't matter what polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is running at a time. And this is when I have one pol at 5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the spectrum. When I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles. I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the immediate adjacent channels. Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm thinking of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power radios, just haven't decided which one. Chris - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster faster. The word on the street is we're faster than cable dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: That UBTik looks pretty cool. Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N greatness. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi all, in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per routerboard and that worked nicely. Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent channels. that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on the same routerboard. Thank you in advance -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
At 8/21/2010 08:32 PM, you wrote: Who all is carrying the Gabriel dishes? Google found them at Moonblink Communications. About $500 for a 2-footer, double that for the high-performance version (slightly lower gain, about 8 dB more front to back). Chris - Original Message - From: mailto:bo...@burrow.comBobby Burrow To: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I have seen the same problem with the PacWireless dishes. We tried them with PTP400 radios and UBNT Rockets. They will not allow the radios to function full duplex. We went with the Gabriel QuickFire series dishes (both standard and high performance). Full duplex issues resolved. Bobby On 8/21/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Hudson wrote: I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas that work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and when I am running with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it doesn't matter what polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is running at a time. And this is when I have one pol at 5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the spectrum. When I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles. I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the immediate adjacent channels. Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm thinking of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power radios, just haven't decided which one. Chris - Original Message - From: mailto:rgunder...@gmail.comRickG To: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgWISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster faster. The word on the street is we're faster than cable dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp mailto:j...@saucer.midcoast.comj...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: That UBTik looks pretty cool. Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N greatness. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco mailto:paolo.difrance...@teleinform.compaolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi all, in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per routerboard and that worked nicely. Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent channels. that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on the same routerboard. Thank you in advance -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.ithttp://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org
