Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Interesting, the drop down box in #3 has the names of everyone who filed 
last time.


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Rick Harnish wrote:


http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 


Thanks Kris!

For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
HUGE friend to the WISP industry.


http://www.lokt.net/

Laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
instructions for

the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
everybody

should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
lawyer even...

. Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
Locations:

Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired "lines" or
wireless "channels" that enable the end user to receive information from
and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
the
applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
provides

one or more such connections to end user locations.

For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a "facilities-based" 
provider of
broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
the
physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
obtains

unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
channel
to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
entities

include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including "wireless
ISPs"), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
MMDS

providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
supplier
uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
to the

public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
wireless services (e.g., "Wi-Fi" and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
and
sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
applicable

portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.

Kris
__
Kristopher E. Twomey
Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
510 903-1304
www.lokt.net


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RE: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html


Rick Harnish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mario Pommier
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> Thanks Kris!
>
> For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
> HUGE friend to the WISP industry.
>
> http://www.lokt.net/
>
> Laters,
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
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> Cc: "'Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:26 AM
> Subject: RE: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8
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>
>> Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
>> instructions for
>> the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
>> In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
>> everybody
>> should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
>> lawyer even...
>>
>> . Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
>> Locations:
>> Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
>> which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired "lines" or
>> wireless "channels" that enable the end user to receive information from
>> and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
>> exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
>> the
>> applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
>> provides
>> one or more such connections to end user locations.
>>
>> For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a "facilities-based" 
>> provider of
>> broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
>> the
>> physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
>> obtains
>> unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
>> facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
>> them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
>> channel
>> to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
>> entities
>> include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
>> system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including "wireless
>> ISPs"), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
>> MMDS
>> providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
>> entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
>> supplier
>> uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
>> to the
>> public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
>> wireless services (e.g., "Wi-Fi" and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
>> local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
>> and
>> sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
>> applicable
>> portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
>> necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.
>>
>> Kris
>> __
>> Kristopher E. Twomey
>> Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
>> 510 903-1304
>> www.lokt.net
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-28 Thread Mario Pommier

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Thanks Kris!

For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
HUGE friend to the WISP industry.


http://www.lokt.net/

Laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Subject: RE: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8


Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
instructions for

the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
everybody

should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
lawyer even...

. Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
Locations:

Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired "lines" or
wireless "channels" that enable the end user to receive information from
and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
the
applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
provides

one or more such connections to end user locations.

For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a "facilities-based" 
provider of
broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
the
physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
obtains

unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
channel
to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
entities

include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including "wireless
ISPs"), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
MMDS

providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
supplier
uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
to the

public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
wireless services (e.g., "Wi-Fi" and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
and
sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
applicable

portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.

Kris
__
Kristopher E. Twomey
Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
510 903-1304
www.lokt.net


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Subject: [WISPA FCC] Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
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It was 400 wisps last I heard.

You HAVE to fill it out.  Doesn't do anything for you to not fill it out
anyway.

On this note.  I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with the 477 
folks

today (we're working with them on a solution for those that don't have
excel).

It turns out it's not unusual for third parties to file for you.  You 
just
have to sign a form saying that the info from the other party is 
accurate.

Many small telcos have consultants or lawyers do it for them.

Having said that, we'll send them in for 

[WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Thanks Kris!

For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a HUGE 
friend to the WISP industry.


http://www.lokt.net/

Laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Subject: RE: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8


Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the instructions 
for

the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
everybody

should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
lawyer even...

. Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
Locations:

Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired "lines" or
wireless "channels" that enable the end user to receive information from
and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file the
applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
provides

one or more such connections to end user locations.

For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a "facilities-based" provider 
of

broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of the
physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it obtains
unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless channel
to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
entities

include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including "wireless
ISPs"), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, MMDS
providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment supplier
uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers to 
the

public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
wireless services (e.g., "Wi-Fi" and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution and
sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
applicable

portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.

Kris
__
Kristopher E. Twomey
Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
510 903-1304
www.lokt.net


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Subject: [WISPA FCC] Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
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It was 400 wisps last I heard.

You HAVE to fill it out.  Doesn't do anything for you to not fill it out
anyway.

On this note.  I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with the 477 folks
today (we're working with them on a solution for those that don't have
excel).

It turns out it's not unusual for third parties to file for you.  You just
have to sign a form saying that the info from the other party is accurate.
Many small telcos have consultants or lawyers do it for them.

Having said that, we'll send them in for anyone that doesn't want to take
the time/can't figure it out/doesn't have the needed software.  I'll have 
my


gals ding your cc for $25 to cover their time.

I think this is something that wispa could also do for