Re: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
I'd heard that they'd promised New Orleans police department an abandoned Bell South building but decided against that since the muni project was still alive. dustin jurman wrote: I think that is supposed to be 1.5 meg a seconds. They use navini and this is just a response to shut down the new Orleans muni project. And the reason they don't support VOIP over it is because navini sucks. This is Bellsouth's way of saying look! - SHINNY BLUE THING! Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good publicity it might get out of the move. Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need to get their lives in order, says John McCullouch, president of BellSouth's Mississippi operations. Our wireless broadband service will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for high-speed Internet access. A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit cities, the carrier will now return to our original strategy of (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out, where such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a small-business service only. It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running, the BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a residential plan. One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, wireless broadband. The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
WOW! 1.5 Gb/s! I wonder what technology they are using? Sean JohnnyO's favorite partner! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good publicity it might get out of the move. Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need to get their lives in order, says John McCullouch, president of BellSouth's Mississippi operations. Our wireless broadband service will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for high-speed Internet access. A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit cities, the carrier will now return to our original strategy of (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out, where such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a small-business service only. It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running, the BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a residential plan. One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, wireless broadband. The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
Clearly the Flux capacitor in the Back to the Future Delorean. That can help, you know...but you gotta be very careful. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean S gayle Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi WOW! 1.5 Gb/s! I wonder what technology they are using? Sean JohnnyO's favorite partner! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good publicity it might get out of the move. Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need to get their lives in order, says John McCullouch, president of BellSouth's Mississippi operations. Our wireless broadband service will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for high-speed Internet access. A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit cities, the carrier will now return to our original strategy of (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out, where such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a small-business service only. It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running, the BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a residential plan. One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, wireless broadband. The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
Hey Dustin, could you elaborate on the navini sucks statement? We where looking at deploying them so would be good to know why they are not good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dustin jurman Sent: 15 December 2005 18:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi I think that is supposed to be 1.5 meg a seconds. They use navini and this is just a response to shut down the new Orleans muni project. And the reason they don't support VOIP over it is because navini sucks. This is Bellsouth's way of saying look! - SHINNY BLUE THING! Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good publicity it might get out of the move. Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need to get their lives in order, says John McCullouch, president of BellSouth's Mississippi operations. Our wireless broadband service will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for high-speed Internet access. A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit cities, the carrier will now return to our original strategy of (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out, where such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a small-business service only. It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running, the BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a residential plan. One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, wireless broadband. The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 14/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 14/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
/delurk Top 5 reasons why legacy navini sucks 1.SCDMA phy/mac increases latency to low of 80msec peak 280msec and avg of 100msec with 14-25% jitter. ( in english, the latency sucks arse ) 2. only truely makes sense for sub 2 mile cell NLOS deployment with BRS/MDS/ITFS Licensed spectrum. ( 2.5 ) licensed- reason being is that the average recieve sensitivity that it will work in a nlos cell is -105 dbm. in a 2.4 enviorment, the average noise floor is at least -95dbm = wont work 50-60% of the time. 3. even if they dropped the price to 10k a sector, its still a rediculous price for a product that doesnt offer any QOS ( and cant offer qos ) to deliver a residential service 4. Their zero truck roll model usually only applies to 60% of customer deployments which = not a zero truck roll model 5. blatent marketing lies = unhappy customers my 2 cents - \lurk - Jeff On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:44 -, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hey Dustin, could you elaborate on the navini sucks statement? We where looking at deploying them so would be good to know why they are not good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dustin jurman Sent: 15 December 2005 18:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi I think that is supposed to be 1.5 meg a seconds. They use navini and this is just a response to shut down the new Orleans muni project. And the reason they don't support VOIP over it is because navini sucks. This is Bellsouth's way of saying look! - SHINNY BLUE THING! Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good publicity it might get out of the move. Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need to get their lives in order, says John McCullouch, president of BellSouth's Mississippi operations. Our wireless broadband service will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for high-speed Internet access. A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit cities, the carrier will now return to our original strategy of (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out, where such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a small-business service only. It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running, the BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a residential plan. One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, wireless broadband. The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 14/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 14/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
Couldn't have said it better. Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeffrey thomas Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi /delurk Top 5 reasons why legacy navini sucks 1.SCDMA phy/mac increases latency to low of 80msec peak 280msec and avg of 100msec with 14-25% jitter. ( in english, the latency sucks arse ) 2. only truely makes sense for sub 2 mile cell NLOS deployment with BRS/MDS/ITFS Licensed spectrum. ( 2.5 ) licensed- reason being is that the average recieve sensitivity that it will work in a nlos cell is -105 dbm. in a 2.4 enviorment, the average noise floor is at least -95dbm = wont work 50-60% of the time. 3. even if they dropped the price to 10k a sector, its still a rediculous price for a product that doesnt offer any QOS ( and cant offer qos ) to deliver a residential service 4. Their zero truck roll model usually only applies to 60% of customer deployments which = not a zero truck roll model 5. blatent marketing lies = unhappy customers my 2 cents - \lurk - Jeff On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:44 -, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hey Dustin, could you elaborate on the navini sucks statement? We where looking at deploying them so would be good to know why they are not good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dustin jurman Sent: 15 December 2005 18:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi I think that is supposed to be 1.5 meg a seconds. They use navini and this is just a response to shut down the new Orleans muni project. And the reason they don't support VOIP over it is because navini sucks. This is Bellsouth's way of saying look! - SHINNY BLUE THING! Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good publicity it might get out of the move. Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need to get their lives in order, says John McCullouch, president of BellSouth's Mississippi operations. Our wireless broadband service will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for high-speed Internet access. A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit cities, the carrier will now return to our original strategy of (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out, where such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a small-business service only. It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running, the BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a residential plan. One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, wireless broadband. The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13
