RE: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Has anyone found another solution like a pc104+ board? There are a few newer/faster AMD CPU's than the 266MHz Geode in the WRAP board so I'd be surprised if there isn't a faster/stable generic x86 solution out there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 11 February 2006 01:44 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? I'd like to see the NEMA boxes you are using. I have thought of putting an atx board on top of a grain leg but have not yet found a cost effective way to do it. Power supply is the main issue. running 100W of power up there is not easy or cheap 48V @ 2.1A or 12V @ 8.2A. At 48V, not too bad, but at 12V that would be a big cable to run Dylan Oliver wrote: Which fancy enclosure with a heater and external fan did you choose? How much was it? Are you happy with it? Thanks, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: 09/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Which fancy enclosure with a heater and external fan did you choose? How much was it? Are you happy with it?Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
I'd like to see the NEMA boxes you are using. I have thought of putting an atx board on top of a grain leg but have not yet found a cost effective way to do it. Power supply is the main issue. running 100W of power up there is not easy or cheap 48V @ 2.1A or 12V @ 8.2A. At 48V, not too bad, but at 12V that would be a big cable to run Dylan Oliver wrote: Which fancy enclosure with a heater and external fan did you choose? How much was it? Are you happy with it? Thanks, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
This will be the first of this particular setup. However, I have used the following setups in outdoor environments, with little or no temperature control (NEMA boxes): 1) VIA EPIA motherboards (with fans) 2) ATX formfactor motherboards (with 400mhz to 800mhz CPUs) I have one site that has a fancy enclosure with a heater and external fan. All of my other ones are just plain NEMA boxes. ONE caveat - most of these are in locations where there is no tower climbing involved. They are either at ground level or on a site where I don't have to get a tower crew (grain elevator or hilltop) to get to the units. Matt Lrasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chadd Thompson wrote: Matt, Thanks for the information. Have you used this sort of setup in an outdoor environment? If so did you have to control the temp for it to work ok? Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Here is an example: Here is the list of parts. *BIOSTAR M7VIZ Socket A (Socket 462) VIA KM400 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail * *$46.49* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138231 *AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache Socket A Processor - Retail * *$78.99* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819104208 *Rosewill 256MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 333 (PC 2700) System Memory - Retail* *$24.30* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820223035 *PW-60A 100W 12V DC-DC ATX Converter * *$45.00* http://idotpc.com/TheStore/Peripheral/case/Default_ps_itx.asp?Cate.id=14 *Total Cost (minus DOM) $194.78 After you add miniPCI adapters, it is about the cost of a WAR board, but with a lot more processing power. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
I haven't used Mikrotik on anything other than a WRAP. Has anyone had great success with Mikrotik in a high speed x86 platform mounted outside at all? Just been testing 2.9.11 running on P4's with dual-polarized antennas and was able to get 150mbps half-duplex and 78mbps full-duplex. Obviously this was in the lab in ideal conditions so next step is to test on a 5-10km link with some kit that can survive in the great outdoors but with enough CPU for it not to be the limiting factor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: 30 January 2006 23:40 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Just bread down and put Dell rack mount servers in place. grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Like many folks on this list (I'm guessing), I have a lot of PC-type hardware at tower locations. Right now, it's mostly RouterBoard 230s and WRAPs, but those systems just don't have all that much CPU power, and I'd like to try to improve things. When you start seriously tinkering with traffic shaping, firewalling, and especially some of the advanced filtering you can do with Linux these days, 233MHz just doesn't go as far as it used to. There are all kinds of cheap computers out there, so getting something with more CPU power than those boards (both of which are basically Pentium 233s or so) isn't the problem. The problems are size/space, and that pesky weather. Ideally, I'd like something with at least double the raw horsepower (a P-500 or better), not too much larger than a RouterBoard, and that can handle temperatures from -20 to +120 (Fahrenheit, obviously, and those numbers are the highs and lows from the last couple years, with a bit of breathing room). I'm shooting for no moving parts, so a fanless system would be ideal. And while it needs to be small, it also needs to have at least two Ethernet ports, and for bonus points, access to a PCI slot (for adding things like miniPCI card adapters). I'd also like a flying car. :D If it existed, a Soekris 5501 would probably fill the bill, but it's been listed as coming soon since late 2004. There's also a number of low-end VIA EPIA-based boards that, while a bit larger than I'd really prefer, would probably work. (Eje at wisp-router sells a couple systems that look like they'd do the job.) So, does anyone have any recommendations on specific hardware for something like this? Surely someone else out there has run into the same kind of problems. I suspect my size constraint will be the most difficult, but it's also the most flexible. Reliability is obviously my top concern. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/246 - Release Date: 30/01/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Here is an example: Here is the list of parts. *BIOSTAR M7VIZ Socket A (Socket 462) VIA KM400 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail * *$46.49* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138231 *AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache Socket A Processor - Retail * *$78.99* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819104208 *Rosewill 256MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 333 (PC 2700) System Memory - Retail* *$24.30* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820223035 *PW-60A 100W 12V DC-DC ATX Converter * *$45.00* http://idotpc.com/TheStore/Peripheral/case/Default_ps_itx.asp?Cate.id=14 *Total Cost (minus DOM) $194.78 After you add miniPCI adapters, it is about the cost of a WAR board, but with a lot more processing power. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Chadd Thompson wrote: What boards are you getting that are cheaper than a war/routerboard? I have looked for something like that in the past and always found it to be more expensive. I would be interested in something like that for sure. Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? MiniATX form factor motherboard, with three PCI slots should have enough CPU to do about anything you want, and you can get DC/DC power supplies for them as well. I have a few WRAP boards we were using as backhauls and the CPUs are now maxing out, so I'm going to put these units in. Surprisingly enough, the computers with power supplies are quite a bit cheaper than a WAR or Routerboard. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
I havent seen anything that MT wouldn't reliably run on! I'm not saying that it will run on literally anything, but it has ran on everything I have ever came across. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 Paul Hendry wrote: I haven't used Mikrotik on anything other than a WRAP. Has anyone had great success with Mikrotik in a high speed x86 platform mounted outside at all? Just been testing 2.9.11 running on P4's with dual-polarized antennas and was able to get 150mbps half-duplex and 78mbps full-duplex. Obviously this was in the lab in ideal conditions so next step is to test on a 5-10km link with some kit that can survive in the great outdoors but with enough CPU for it not to be the limiting factor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: 30 January 2006 23:40 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Just bread down and put Dell rack mount servers in place. grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Like many folks on this list (I'm guessing), I have a lot of PC-type hardware at tower locations. Right now, it's mostly RouterBoard 230s and WRAPs, but those systems just don't have all that much CPU power, and I'd like to try to improve things. When you start seriously tinkering with traffic shaping, firewalling, and especially some of the advanced filtering you can do with Linux these days, 233MHz just doesn't go as far as it used to. There are all kinds of cheap computers out there, so getting something with more CPU power than those boards (both of which are basically Pentium 233s or so) isn't the problem. The problems are size/space, and that pesky weather. Ideally, I'd like something with at least double the raw horsepower (a P-500 or better), not too much larger than a RouterBoard, and that can handle temperatures from -20 to +120 (Fahrenheit, obviously, and those numbers are the highs and lows from the last couple years, with a bit of breathing room). I'm shooting for no moving parts, so a fanless system would be ideal. And while it needs to be small, it also needs to have at least two Ethernet ports, and for bonus points, access to a PCI slot (for adding things like miniPCI card adapters). I'd also like a flying car. :D If it existed, a Soekris 5501 would probably fill the bill, but it's been listed as coming soon since late 2004. There's also a number of low-end VIA EPIA-based boards that, while a bit larger than I'd really prefer, would probably work. (Eje at wisp-router sells a couple systems that look like they'd do the job.) So, does anyone have any recommendations on specific hardware for something like this? Surely someone else out there has run into the same kind of problems. I suspect my size constraint will be the most difficult, but it's also the most flexible. Reliability is obviously my top concern. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Back when I was originally looking at this (many moons ago) there where issues running it on the Via Mini-ITX boards. Anyone know if these issues where fixed? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: 31 January 2006 14:49 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? I havent seen anything that MT wouldn't reliably run on! I'm not saying that it will run on literally anything, but it has ran on everything I have ever came across. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 Paul Hendry wrote: I haven't used Mikrotik on anything other than a WRAP. Has anyone had great success with Mikrotik in a high speed x86 platform mounted outside at all? Just been testing 2.9.11 running on P4's with dual-polarized antennas and was able to get 150mbps half-duplex and 78mbps full-duplex. Obviously this was in the lab in ideal conditions so next step is to test on a 5-10km link with some kit that can survive in the great outdoors but with enough CPU for it not to be the limiting factor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: 30 January 2006 23:40 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Just bread down and put Dell rack mount servers in place. grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Like many folks on this list (I'm guessing), I have a lot of PC-type hardware at tower locations. Right now, it's mostly RouterBoard 230s and WRAPs, but those systems just don't have all that much CPU power, and I'd like to try to improve things. When you start seriously tinkering with traffic shaping, firewalling, and especially some of the advanced filtering you can do with Linux these days, 233MHz just doesn't go as far as it used to. There are all kinds of cheap computers out there, so getting something with more CPU power than those boards (both of which are basically Pentium 233s or so) isn't the problem. The problems are size/space, and that pesky weather. Ideally, I'd like something with at least double the raw horsepower (a P-500 or better), not too much larger than a RouterBoard, and that can handle temperatures from -20 to +120 (Fahrenheit, obviously, and those numbers are the highs and lows from the last couple years, with a bit of breathing room). I'm shooting for no moving parts, so a fanless system would be ideal. And while it needs to be small, it also needs to have at least two Ethernet ports, and for bonus points, access to a PCI slot (for adding things like miniPCI card adapters). I'd also like a flying car. :D If it existed, a Soekris 5501 would probably fill the bill, but it's been listed as coming soon since late 2004. There's also a number of low-end VIA EPIA-based boards that, while a bit larger than I'd really prefer, would probably work. (Eje at wisp-router sells a couple systems that look like they'd do the job.) So, does anyone have any recommendations on specific hardware for something like this? Surely someone else out there has run into the same kind of problems. I suspect my size constraint will be the most difficult, but it's also the most flexible. Reliability is obviously my top concern. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/246 - Release Date: 30/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/246 - Release Date: 30/01/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Thats a great post Larsen - Thanks Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Here is an example: Here is the list of parts. *BIOSTAR M7VIZ Socket A (Socket 462) VIA KM400 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail * *$46.49* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138231 *AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache Socket A Processor - Retail * *$78.99* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819104208 *Rosewill 256MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 333 (PC 2700) System Memory - Retail* *$24.30* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820223035 *PW-60A 100W 12V DC-DC ATX Converter * *$45.00* http://idotpc.com/TheStore/Peripheral/case/Default_ps_itx.asp?Cate.id=14 *Total Cost (minus DOM) $194.78 After you add miniPCI adapters, it is about the cost of a WAR board, but with a lot more processing power. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Chadd Thompson wrote: What boards are you getting that are cheaper than a war/routerboard? I have looked for something like that in the past and always found it to be more expensive. I would be interested in something like that for sure. Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? MiniATX form factor motherboard, with three PCI slots should have enough CPU to do about anything you want, and you can get DC/DC power supplies for them as well. I have a few WRAP boards we were using as backhauls and the CPUs are now maxing out, so I'm going to put these units in. Surprisingly enough, the computers with power supplies are quite a bit cheaper than a WAR or Routerboard. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Matt, Thanks for the information. Have you used this sort of setup in an outdoor environment? If so did you have to control the temp for it to work ok? Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Here is an example: Here is the list of parts. *BIOSTAR M7VIZ Socket A (Socket 462) VIA KM400 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail * *$46.49* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138231 *AMD Sempron 2200+ Thoroughbred 333MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache Socket A Processor - Retail * *$78.99* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819104208 *Rosewill 256MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 333 (PC 2700) System Memory - Retail* *$24.30* http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820223035 *PW-60A 100W 12V DC-DC ATX Converter * *$45.00* http://idotpc.com/TheStore/Peripheral/case/Default_ps_itx.asp?Cate.id=14 *Total Cost (minus DOM) $194.78 After you add miniPCI adapters, it is about the cost of a WAR board, but with a lot more processing power. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
David E. Smith wrote: Like many folks on this list (I'm guessing), I have a lot of PC-type hardware at tower locations. Right now, it's mostly RouterBoard 230s and WRAPs, but those systems just don't have all that much CPU power, and I'd like to try to improve things. When you start seriously tinkering with traffic shaping, firewalling, and especially some of the advanced filtering you can do with Linux these days, 233MHz just doesn't go as far as it used to. There are all kinds of cheap computers out there, so getting something with more CPU power than those boards (both of which are basically Pentium 233s or so) isn't the problem. The problems are size/space, and that pesky weather. Ideally, I'd like something with at least double the raw horsepower (a P-500 or better), not too much larger than a RouterBoard, and that can handle temperatures from -20 to +120 (Fahrenheit, obviously, and those numbers are the highs and lows from the last couple years, with a bit of breathing room). I'm shooting for no moving parts, so a fanless system would be ideal. And while it needs to be small, it also needs to have at least two Ethernet ports, and for bonus points, access to a PCI slot (for adding things like miniPCI card adapters). I'd also like a flying car. :D They promised us flying cars Where are the flying cars?!?!?! If it existed, a Soekris 5501 would probably fill the bill, but it's been listed as coming soon since late 2004. There's also a number of low-end VIA EPIA-based boards that, while a bit larger than I'd really prefer, would probably work. (Eje at wisp-router sells a couple systems that look like they'd do the job.) So, does anyone have any recommendations on specific hardware for something like this? Surely someone else out there has run into the same kind of problems. I suspect my size constraint will be the most difficult, but it's also the most flexible. Reliability is obviously my top concern. David Smith MVN.net -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
You can get 2 port pci riser cards for via boards and there are a few dual ether VIA's out there but never used them myself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: 30 January 2006 22:19 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Paul Hendry wrote: What software are you running on them? There are a couple of options out there including the WAR boards (once StarOS V3 is released) or I have heard of several people having great success with the VIA mini-itx fanless boards. Both remove the CPU as a bottle neck. I *knew* there was something I was forgetting... :) Right now, most of them are running StarOS, but I'd like to still be flexible. (I have a few of these boards as CPE, mainly running RouterOS.) The WAR boards, and the Routerboard 500s, both look very good for their specific jobs, but you're more-or-less tied to a certain software distribution there (i.e. you can't run RouterOS on a WAR, StarOS on a RB500, etc.). Hey, one of these days I might get a wild notion to just install a 2GB flash card and Slackware at a tower location. You never know. Thus, my magical ideal board should probably be x86-compatible too. I've been looking at the VIA boards. The only problem is that most of them only have one onboard Ethernet port, and only one PCI slot. So I could have my multiple Ethernet ports, OR my miniPCI adapter, but not both. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
Just bread down and put Dell rack mount servers in place. grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions? Like many folks on this list (I'm guessing), I have a lot of PC-type hardware at tower locations. Right now, it's mostly RouterBoard 230s and WRAPs, but those systems just don't have all that much CPU power, and I'd like to try to improve things. When you start seriously tinkering with traffic shaping, firewalling, and especially some of the advanced filtering you can do with Linux these days, 233MHz just doesn't go as far as it used to. There are all kinds of cheap computers out there, so getting something with more CPU power than those boards (both of which are basically Pentium 233s or so) isn't the problem. The problems are size/space, and that pesky weather. Ideally, I'd like something with at least double the raw horsepower (a P-500 or better), not too much larger than a RouterBoard, and that can handle temperatures from -20 to +120 (Fahrenheit, obviously, and those numbers are the highs and lows from the last couple years, with a bit of breathing room). I'm shooting for no moving parts, so a fanless system would be ideal. And while it needs to be small, it also needs to have at least two Ethernet ports, and for bonus points, access to a PCI slot (for adding things like miniPCI card adapters). I'd also like a flying car. :D If it existed, a Soekris 5501 would probably fill the bill, but it's been listed as coming soon since late 2004. There's also a number of low-end VIA EPIA-based boards that, while a bit larger than I'd really prefer, would probably work. (Eje at wisp-router sells a couple systems that look like they'd do the job.) So, does anyone have any recommendations on specific hardware for something like this? Surely someone else out there has run into the same kind of problems. I suspect my size constraint will be the most difficult, but it's also the most flexible. Reliability is obviously my top concern. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
