RE: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
That $10,000 fine is a standard FCC violation fine and can apply to almost any situation where a violation has occurred. Now I am NOT condoning violating FCC rules but these are the facts and we have to face it. When was the last time someone was fined for being over EIRP limits, NEVER! Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
I don't remember if it was this list or isp-wireless that talked about this a bit more specifically. In a nutshell, the fine for not filling it out is up to $10,000 as I read it. Again, however, the biggest reason for us to fill this out is political. They need to know that when someone from the wisp industry, and wispa specifically, says something, we're not just talking about 400 operators and 4000 subscribers.. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
Righto. It's now 1 subscriber not 250. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mario Pommier To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 2,000.Mario Pommier wrote: If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file.The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband customers in a given state.Correct?If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this one.MarioBob Moldashel wrote: On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 2,000. Mario Pommier wrote: If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file. The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband customers in a given state. Correct? If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this one. Mario Bob Moldashel wrote: On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file. The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wireless channels in a given state, or have at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband customers in a given state. Correct? If so, I don't understand the sense of setting up a threshold like this one. Mario Bob Moldashel wrote: On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
On all due respectIt didn't answer the question.. -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, For those that think it's no big deal to not fill this out. Please read the note below from Ellen Burton with the FCC. She's in charge of this form. Guys, they are making this as easy as they can for us. I think we have nothing to gain and much to loose by being a PITA. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ellen Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st See #20 in the set of Form 477 FAQs that's available at http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html: 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Ellen Burton Subject: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hiya Ellen, Remember when I asked what the penalty is for not filing the 477? Got an answer for me yet? thanks! marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" ; "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram?? Do they not send me a xmas card next year?? What??? It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. Either way I think the membership should know. Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts. -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
