Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Replies below: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I'm not nearly as impressed with this as you are John. I never described this with the word impressed. I am never impressed that easily! :-) Money to study the issue AND a task force? To study an issue that the senator has already laid out? That the fcc's broadband task force AND spectrum policy force have studied to death? bull. I think part of this is to help the Connect SI initiative in Durbin's district of which I am a supporting member. It is a group dedicated to analyzing the availability of broadband, developing plans to build more broadband availability, build a common peering facility in the region and ways to use it to positively impact the economy in Southern Illinois. Sadly the WISPs walked out before anyone even had a chance to see what was on the table. This is a good deal for us if people just try. That is too much to ask many WISPs though it seems. I am the only WISP in the group. I am also the only small company who would donate time and money to the effort. If people want to see the government do positive things then they have to be part of the effort. Telling the government to buzz off does not work. It's an election year scam. Nice of you to sum up the hundreds of hours I have committed to state level broadband initiatives as an election year scam. If this goes the way I want then my service area will be color coded by signal availability down to the quarter-section level on the plat book and I will have access to every state and federal program for broadband available. I do not lobby for programs to be created but I do tell the politicians what I need to bring broadband to rural areas when they ask e and a good part of what Durbin is stating has to do with things me and others have asked him to do to help. Naturally, the devil is always in the details. I'm REALLY against the study crap, it's totally redundant. But the grants and auction reform may be nice. Have to see what they really put together. In case you do not remember t has been me for a long time saying that too much money is going to loans and not enough to grants. This is being addressed here unless he drops the ball. I had such high hopes for USF reform, but that's not only not gotten better, it's gonna be worse for us. And it looks like the TV band issue is either dead of wrapped up in junk that'll make it worthless too. What is your source of information on the TV bands? I have not received a single negative message in regard to the TV reform issues. If you want some USF funds then signup and get a SPIN number. Ask your local school to help you. They can set you up in about an hour. You can collect some USF now. Scriv It always seems to go back to the government supporting the people that live off of it first and those of us that feed it last. Getting cynical in my old age. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Frannie Wellings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas] This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. “Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,” said Durbin. “Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.” Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture – found that rural and far
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
I'm not nearly as impressed with this as you are John. Money to study the issue AND a task force? To study an issue that the senator has already laid out? That the fcc's broadband task force AND spectrum policy force have studied to death? bull. It's an election year scam. Naturally, the devil is always in the details. I'm REALLY against the study crap, it's totally redundant. But the grants and auction reform may be nice. Have to see what they really put together. I had such high hopes for USF reform, but that's not only not gotten better, it's gonna be worse for us. And it looks like the TV band issue is either dead of wrapped up in junk that'll make it worthless too. It always seems to go back to the government supporting the people that live off of it first and those of us that feed it last. Getting cynical in my old age. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Frannie Wellings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas] This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. “Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,” said Durbin. “Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.” Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture – found that rural and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. “We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans are not left behind in the 21st Century’s digital economy,” Durbin noted. “Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.” Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those concerns. Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. Projects to be funded through this new program will include
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Hi, That all sounds great, but we won't all of a sudden need 61,000 new medical transcriptionists every year for 20 years. ;) Those people all had different jobs, or the same job somewhere else... so technically there wasn't a job created, there was a job moved. Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: In a study of Iowa City, which introduced a muni fiber network in 199? - in comparison to the next city over that was doing better but did not install fiber - housing rates increased in IC tax base went up large biz came to town average per capita went up Court reporters; medical transcriptionists; virtaul assistants; voice over people; architects; programmers - all need broadband. And they would like to live in better America. That's how BB improves the economy. All from BB Properties mag. in 2005. - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Travis, do you remember the term 'fuzzy math'? On 8/7/06 10:59 PM, "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up > internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year > for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more > online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses > going out of business. Am I missing something? > > Travis > Microserv > > John Scrivner wrote: > >> This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he >> has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of >> what I have been saying. >> Scriv >> >> >> *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN >> RURAL AREAS * >> >> Friday, August 4, 2006 >> >> [WASHINGTON, DC] U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national >> policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet >> service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed >> internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced >> legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage >> the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet >> service, especially in rural areas. >> >> ³Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at >> home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and >> electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high >> speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses >> need traditional utility services,² said Durbin. ³Yet, for too many >> people living in small communities today, broadband access is still >> not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me >> that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no >> service available to them right now. My bill will change that.² >> >> Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce >> and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture found that rural >> and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately >> half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected >> research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, >> found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of >> rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of >> urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: >> Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have >> home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. >> >> Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic >> development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves >> productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in >> every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of >> current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product >> by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year >> over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could >> be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. >> >> ³We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans >> are not left behind in the 21st Century¹s digital economy,² Durbin >> noted. ³Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, >> wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future >> broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.² >> >> Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed >> to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in >> rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those >> concerns. >> >> Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program >> specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops >> working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their >> communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic >> institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to >> identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. >> Projects to be funded through this new program will include >> feasibility studies, mapping, economic analysis, and other activities >> done to determine the reasons for the current lack of service, and the >> scale, scope, and type of broadband services most suitable for the >> particular unserved area. >> >> Reforms USDA Rural Broadband Program: the current USDA broadband loan >> program provides below-market rate loans and loan guarantees for the >> construction and improvement of broadband facilities and equipment in >> rural areas. This program expires in 2007. Durbin¹s bill does three >> things with regard to the broadband loan program -- extends the life >> of the program for another five years until 2012; refocuses the >> program solely on rural areas where it is most needed; a
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
In a study of Iowa City, which introduced a muni fiber network in 199? - in comparison to the next city over that was doing better but did not install fiber - housing rates increased in IC tax base went up large biz came to town average per capita went up Court reporters; medical transcriptionists; virtaul assistants; voice over people; architects; programmers - all need broadband. And they would like to live in better America. That's how BB improves the economy. All from BB Properties mag. in 2005. - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv John Scrivner wrote: This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. “Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,” said Durbin. “Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.” Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture – found that rural and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. “We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans are not left behind in the 21st Century’s digital economy,” Durbin noted. “Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.” Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those concerns. Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. Projects to be funded through this new program will include feasibility studies, mapping, economic analysis, and other activities done to determine the reasons for the current lack of service, and the scale, scope, and type of broadband services most suitable for the particular unserved area. Reforms USDA Rural Broadband Program: the current USDA broadband loan program provides below-market rate loans and loan guarantees for the construction and improvement of broadband facilities and equipment in rural areas. This program expires in 2007. Durbin’s bill does three things with regard to the broadband loan program -- extends the life of the program for another five years until 2012; refocuses the program solely on rural areas where it is most needed; and establishes a grant program to be administered by the same USDA office that currently runs the rural broadband loan program. Wireless Broadband Spectrum: requires the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to make new spectrum available for wireless broadband services in rural areas as soon as pr
