Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-17 Thread RickG
ONLY where there are specific cases > that make it more affordable for that specific case or location. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
Yep, at the expense of the many for the benefit of the few, IMHO. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: RickG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:32:10 -0500 >Basically, except for a few viable installations still r

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
ndary BPL. HV BPL is not >> going to be a viable backhaul technology for a variety of reasons. >> >> Yes, secondary BPL barely works with arguably acceptable (by some). Show >> me >> a HV system that works as advertised. >> - Original Message - &

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread RickG
, using the magnetic fields around the power lines > as a containment structure for a microwave signal. Hundreds of Mbps. Lab > oddity, but picked up by the press. > > Which one of these are we talking about here? > > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" &

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread RickG
grid dip meter, SWR > cross-needle meter, and TDR equipment that served me so well all these > years. I run a clean shop. > > . . . J o n a t h a n > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 > Sent

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-16 Thread RickG
works as advertised. > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > > >> Chuck, >> >> It's as though

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > Chuck, > > It's as though you didnt read my post! > > BPL works - with acceptable interference - I saw it with my own eyes > along with do

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
November 15, 2008 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL One huge reason, powerlines are not constant impedance to RF. Nor are they balanced. This is like trying to pump natural gas down the water lines. Pipe, right? What's the problem? It is never going to ever

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
ow me a HV system that works as advertised. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > Chuck, > > It's as though you didnt

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
short-wave and ham if > I decide to do so. A half baked idea like HV bpl has no place in ruining > valuable spectrum that is absolutely necessary in the event of an emergency. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
um that is absolutely necessary in the event of an emergency. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL >I disagree. I personally saw BPL work and

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
ust fine. > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > > >> To clarify, by "real interference" I meant

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
about. Nothing more. On the secondary side it is nothing more than homeplug. That is viable and deployed and does just fine. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
OTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > > >>I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped >> building 20-30 rooms. What type

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread RickG
To clarify, by "real interference" I meant they are no worse than anything else we deal with. Like any RF transmission, there are emmisions, but those can be dealt with just like the way we (WISP's) deal with them. The ARRL made a mountain out of molehill and it was all political as far as I'm con

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
neral List'" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > Brian, > > I'd rather go with this from Motorola: > http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Private > +Broadband+Networks > > Basically it'

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
How about BPL to transport data to the ap's? marlon - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL >I have a motel I am trying

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-15 Thread Mike Hammett
4 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > "You are correct, electric companies saw huge benefits for internal use > but the real reason it did not move forward was because electric companies > are conservative by nature and they didnt like

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
"You are correct, electric companies saw huge benefits for internal use but the real reason it did not move forward was because electric companies are conservative by nature and they didnt like the heat coming from the ARRL over interference issues, which btw were not real." The interference is re

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
t presentations on it. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with inter

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread RickG
fication to build out the speed needed for large scale hgih capacity > Broadband to compete with FTTH. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net" &l

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread RickG
powerpoint presentations on > it. > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Butch Evans
On Nov 14, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >>I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L >>shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would >>work for this? Or maybe wireless is the way to go. MOST of these smaller hotels that I have dealt with have som

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread John Valenti
hi Brian, Just curious why you wouldn't go with a wired solution? Seems like a $200 switch and a box of Cat5 would be an easy fix. Suppose you would want to add some wifi support to it, also. (Open-Mesh, StarOS, or Mikrotik?) One item I picked up from the original media article was that th

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
can be gotten to the rooms, it will be cheaper to deploy. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
- From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > Is there and BPL solutions out there that WISPs could take advantage of > yet? Maybe beam in some high sp

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread 3-dB Networks
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would work for this? Or maybe wireless is t

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I would put up an AP. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > Wireless has it's obvious advantages but if you go the BPL route you &g

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread RickG
Wireless has it's obvious advantages but if you go the BPL route you can use the Motorola product. Just be sure your not going through mroe than one distribution panel. To be honest, depending on the wiring, you may be able to get through a couple of panels. -RickG On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have a motel I am trying to cover with internet. It's a L shaped building 20-30 rooms. What type of bpl solutions would work for this? Or maybe wireless is the way to go. Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! h

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread RickG
t; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL > > Is there and BPL solutions out there that

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread RickG
s, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL >

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread RickG
s no good. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:10 PM >

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread Eje Gustafsson
- LinkTechs.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL Is there and BPL solutions out there that WISPs could take advantage of yet? Maybe beam in some high speed and then go to the community or subdivision

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
gt;> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:10 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
as another competitor to add choice and options for consumers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
yeah, BPL is no good. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] IBM backs BPL

2008-11-12 Thread RickG
When I was involved with BPL (back then known as PLC), all I ever heard was HAM radio interference. -RickG On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jeff Broadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081112/tec_broadband_over_power_lines.html?.v=6 > > Jeff Broadwick > Sales Manager, ImageS