RE: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Mark - 
what is the IRC channel on freenode ?
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mark KoskenmakiSent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 12:50 
  AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] 
  Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort
  Rick, I've been on the p-15 list all day, the irc 
  chat rooms all evening.   
   
  There's a tremendous amount of help 
  offered.  Lots of warm bodies and some very good stuff.  
  
   
  One of the things I'd like to address, is that 
  there are a LOT of us with small businesses who simply haven't the $$$ to 
  support ourselves going down there.    Cisco, Nortel, and 
  others "volunteer", but they also find themselves on the receiving end of 
  contracts later that are often highly profitable and more than make up for 
  thier expenses "donating" stuff to the cause. 
   
  We're never going to see such a 
  thing.   What we donate, we do without any chance of 
  recovery.   
   
  That dollar we don't make because we're not 
  answering our phone, or at the job, or that dollar we spend trying to do the 
  mission...  we'll never see again.    This makes those 
  donations, efforts, and willingness on the part of people I KNOW will feel a 
  lot of pain over doubly more impressive.   None of us will get a 
  contract from LA, AL, MS, FEMA, or anyone else to do rebuilding.  
  
   
  Michael seems to have what I consider a daunting 
  task ahead of him - not one I'd step up and take on.   Same with 
  Mac, Jim Patient, and others we've seen.   I'd love to donate 
  to all of these... but my bank account has a - sign in front of the 
  numbers.   I have no money to donate.   I don't even know 
  how I'm going to survive here when I"m NOT in the disaster zone...  Oh, 
  the business bills are paid, I have my bandwidth ,and the leases are 
  paid...  I just don't know if I'll have a home in 2 months.   
  It's that bad for a bit.
   
  But let me carpool with 2 others to foot the 
  diesel bill, and I'll take a pickup, barrells of fuel in, and work 18 hour 
  days.   I see the pictures of these people on TV and I cannot help 
  myself.   I am so incredibly better off than them.   I 
  have hope.  I know my family is safe.  I have a good 
  future.  My world won't change much if I take the time and 
  go.   My business won't be hurt much, if at all, if I go.  So 
  how could I not be willing?
   
  And if I am part of one action, that enables 
  someone to save one life... it will have all been more than worth it.  I 
  don't need or want my name in any paper, or on any list, or spoken 
  anywhere.  I just want to meet my Maker some day and hear "I was hungry 
  and you fed me, I was sick and you came to me, I was thirsty and you gave me 
  drink...I was dying and you helped save my life."  
   
  Those of you who are and have given...  
  you're the epitome of what's good and right in this country.   
  You're examples to us all.   
   
  God Bless...
   
   
   
   
   
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----- Original Message - 
    From: 
    Rick Harnish 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:44 
PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
Cooperative Effort


Mark,
 
The first task at 
hand is to discover what the WISP industry can offer to FEMA and the FCC to 
help reestablish the telecommunications infrastructure in the damaged 
areas.  At this point there is 
no command central but we need to make our donations in the next few hours 
so that we have an idea how much we can commit to doing in the help 
effort.  It is time to put your 
money, labor or ideas where you mouth is.  Make your donation either to the 
WISPA paypal account of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to the links posted 
on the WISPA or Part 15 webpages.  All of these donations will be 
compiled and submitted with a report Michael is writing tonight and tomorrow 
morning.  I’m sure we will keep 
accepting donations and volunteers to help past the noon deadline 
tomorrow.  This is only the 
first step towards creating a plan to rebuild.  If you can help, let us know!  
 

Rick 
Harnish
President
OnlyInternet 
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 
Office
260-307-4000 
Cell
260-918-4340 
VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  

 





From: 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
Kosken

Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread Mark Koskenmaki



yeah, Rick, there's quite a list of 
needs.
 
Installers, network documenters, network designers, 
troubleshooters, administrators.  people to monitor and configure and 
diagnose.  
 
Tower climbers,  fabricators,  
managers.  Go-fer types.   Some may just need a resource to find 
information or help with problems and be at the other end when you're 
needed.   
 
Of course, when the officials get back on what they 
reallly want... then it'll be "Go, now!" time, and we'll know precisely what 
needs to be done.
 
 
 
 
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick Harnish 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:44 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
  Cooperative Effort
  
  
  Mark,
   
  The first task at 
  hand is to discover what the WISP industry can offer to FEMA and the FCC to 
  help reestablish the telecommunications infrastructure in the damaged 
  areas.  At this point there is no 
  command central but we need to make our donations in the next few hours so 
  that we have an idea how much we can commit to doing in the help effort.  It is time to put your money, labor or 
  ideas where you mouth is.  Make your donation either to the WISPA 
  paypal account of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
  to the links posted on the WISPA or Part 15 webpages.  All 
  of these donations will be compiled and submitted with a report Michael is 
  writing tonight and tomorrow morning.  
  I’m sure we will keep accepting donations and volunteers to help past 
  the noon deadline tomorrow.  This 
  is only the first step towards creating a plan to rebuild.  If you can help, let us know!  
   
  
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark KoskenmakiSent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:24 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
  Cooperative Effort
   
  
  Excellent Rick.   
  
  
   
  
  Please tell us how the command 
  structure of this works.   
  
   
  
  Who or what needs to be offered to 
  whom?    Once you have this, please 
  post.   Thanks for your 
  efforts.
  
  Mark
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
  North East 
  Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
  to:  mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at 
  neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
  WIRES!-
  

- Original Message - 


From: Rick 
Harnish 

To: 'WISPA General 
List' 

Sent: Friday, 
September 02, 2005 3:59 PM

Subject: [WISPA] 
Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

 
I have spoken with Michael 
Anderson this afternoon.  He has 
a time critical report to get off to FEMA and the FCC by noon tomorrow 
detailing how the WISP industry can help.  We have decided it is best to work 
together to complete this task.  
I have posted an article on the WISPA webpage which directs the 
volunteer efforts to the Part-15 webpage which is already set up to accept 
these donations.  It is my 
belief that all of these donations should be coordinated in one place and 
since Part-15 already had this list started, it was the appropriate place to 
do it.  

 
Hopefully, this is the first 
step towards mending the relationship between Part-15 and WISPA and we can 
work to unite the industry again.  
This is a major undertaking and we need help from everyone.  Please donate what you can, as soon 
as you can.  

 
Thanks,
 
Rick 
Harnish
President
OnlyInternet 
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 
Office
260-307-4000 
Cell
260-918-4340 
VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  

 

 



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Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread Mark Koskenmaki



Rick, I've been on the p-15 list all day, the irc 
chat rooms all evening.   
 
There's a tremendous amount of help offered.  
Lots of warm bodies and some very good stuff.  
 
One of the things I'd like to address, is that 
there are a LOT of us with small businesses who simply haven't the $$$ to 
support ourselves going down there.    Cisco, Nortel, and others 
"volunteer", but they also find themselves on the receiving end of contracts 
later that are often highly profitable and more than make up for thier expenses 
"donating" stuff to the cause. 
 
We're never going to see such a thing.   
What we donate, we do without any chance of recovery.   
 
That dollar we don't make because we're not 
answering our phone, or at the job, or that dollar we spend trying to do the 
mission...  we'll never see again.    This makes those 
donations, efforts, and willingness on the part of people I KNOW will feel a lot 
of pain over doubly more impressive.   None of us will get a contract 
from LA, AL, MS, FEMA, or anyone else to do rebuilding.  
 
Michael seems to have what I consider a daunting 
task ahead of him - not one I'd step up and take on.   Same with Mac, 
Jim Patient, and others we've seen.   I'd love to donate to all 
of these... but my bank account has a - sign in front of the 
numbers.   I have no money to donate.   I don't even know 
how I'm going to survive here when I"m NOT in the disaster zone...  Oh, the 
business bills are paid, I have my bandwidth ,and the leases are paid...  I 
just don't know if I'll have a home in 2 months.   It's that bad for a 
bit.
 
But let me carpool with 2 others to foot the diesel 
bill, and I'll take a pickup, barrells of fuel in, and work 18 hour 
days.   I see the pictures of these people on TV and I cannot help 
myself.   I am so incredibly better off than them.   I have 
hope.  I know my family is safe.  I have a good future.  My 
world won't change much if I take the time and go.   My business won't 
be hurt much, if at all, if I go.  So how could I not be 
willing?
 
And if I am part of one action, that enables 
someone to save one life... it will have all been more than worth it.  I 
don't need or want my name in any paper, or on any list, or spoken 
anywhere.  I just want to meet my Maker some day and hear "I was hungry and 
you fed me, I was sick and you came to me, I was thirsty and you gave me 
drink...I was dying and you helped save my life."  
 
Those of you who are and have given...  you're 
the epitome of what's good and right in this country.   You're 
examples to us all.   
 
God Bless...
 
 
 
 
 
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
to:  mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at 
neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
WIRES!---------

  ----- Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick Harnish 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:44 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
  Cooperative Effort
  
  
  Mark,
   
  The first task at 
  hand is to discover what the WISP industry can offer to FEMA and the FCC to 
  help reestablish the telecommunications infrastructure in the damaged 
  areas.  At this point there is no 
  command central but we need to make our donations in the next few hours so 
  that we have an idea how much we can commit to doing in the help effort.  It is time to put your money, labor or 
  ideas where you mouth is.  Make your donation either to the WISPA 
  paypal account of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
  to the links posted on the WISPA or Part 15 webpages.  All 
  of these donations will be compiled and submitted with a report Michael is 
  writing tonight and tomorrow morning.  
  I’m sure we will keep accepting donations and volunteers to help past 
  the noon deadline tomorrow.  This 
  is only the first step towards creating a plan to rebuild.  If you can help, let us know!  
   
  
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark KoskenmakiSent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:24 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
  Cooperative Effort
   
  
  Excellent Rick.   
  
  
   
  
  Please tell us how the command 
  structure of this works.   
  
   
  
  Who or what needs to be offered to 
  whom?    Once you have this, please 
  post.   Thanks for your 
  efforts.
  
  Mark
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
  North East 
  Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
  to:  mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at 
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RE: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread Rick Harnish








Mark,

 

The first task at hand is to discover what
the WISP industry can offer to FEMA and the FCC to help reestablish the telecommunications
infrastructure in the damaged areas.  At
this point there is no command central but we need to make our donations in the
next few hours so that we have an idea how much we can commit to doing in the
help effort.  It is time to put your
money, labor or ideas where you mouth is.  Make your donation either to the WISPA paypal
account of [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to the
links posted on the WISPA or Part 15 webpages.  All of these donations will be compiled and
submitted with a report Michael is writing tonight and tomorrow morning.  I’m sure we will keep accepting
donations and volunteers to help past the noon deadline tomorrow.  This is only the first step towards creating
a plan to rebuild.  If you can help, let
us know!  

 



Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  

 













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005
6:24 PM
To: WISPA
 General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA
Cooperative Effort



 



Excellent Rick.   





 





Please tell us how the command
structure of this works.   





 





Who or what needs to be offered to
whom?    Once you have this, please
post.   Thanks for your efforts.





Mark





 





 





 





North East Oregon
Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
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- Original Message - 





From: Rick
Harnish 





To: 'WISPA General
List' 





Sent: Friday,
September 02, 2005 3:59 PM





Subject: [WISPA]
Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort





 



I have spoken with Michael Anderson
this afternoon.  He has a time critical
report to get off to FEMA and the FCC by noon tomorrow detailing how the WISP
industry can help.  We have decided it is
best to work together to complete this task. 
I have posted an article on the WISPA webpage which directs the
volunteer efforts to the Part-15 webpage which is already set up to accept
these donations.  It is my belief that
all of these donations should be coordinated in one place and since Part-15
already had this list started, it was the appropriate place to do it.  

 

Hopefully, this is the first step
towards mending the relationship between Part-15 and WISPA and we can work to
unite the industry again.  This is a
major undertaking and we need help from everyone.  Please donate what you can, as soon as you
can.  

 

Thanks,

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 


 



 







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Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread Tom DeReggi



Rick,
 
Well said. And maybe the next news article will 
read "WISPs come togeather to restore communications"
 
instead of "begging".
 
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
 
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick Harnish 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:59 
  PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
  Cooperative Effort
  
  
  I have spoken with Michael 
  Anderson this afternoon.  He has a 
  time critical report to get off to FEMA and the FCC by noon tomorrow detailing 
  how the WISP industry can help.  
  We have decided it is best to work together to complete this task.  I have posted an article on the WISPA 
  webpage which directs the volunteer efforts to the Part-15 webpage which is 
  already set up to accept these donations.  It is my belief that all of these 
  donations should be coordinated in one place and since Part-15 already had 
  this list started, it was the appropriate place to do it.  
   
  Hopefully, this is the first step 
  towards mending the relationship between Part-15 and WISPA and we can work to 
  unite the industry again.  This is 
  a major undertaking and we need help from everyone.  Please donate what you can, as soon as 
  you can.  
  
   
  Thanks,
   
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
   
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread Mark Koskenmaki



Excellent Rick.   
 
Please tell us how the command structure of this 
works.   
 
Who or what needs to be offered to 
whom?    Once you have this, please post.   Thanks 
for your efforts.
Mark
 
 
 
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
to:  mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at 
neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
WIRES!-

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick Harnish 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:59 
  PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA 
  Cooperative Effort
  
  
  I have spoken with Michael 
  Anderson this afternoon.  He has a 
  time critical report to get off to FEMA and the FCC by noon tomorrow detailing 
  how the WISP industry can help.  
  We have decided it is best to work together to complete this task.  I have posted an article on the WISPA 
  webpage which directs the volunteer efforts to the Part-15 webpage which is 
  already set up to accept these donations.  It is my belief that all of these 
  donations should be coordinated in one place and since Part-15 already had 
  this list started, it was the appropriate place to do it.  
   
  Hopefully, this is the first step 
  towards mending the relationship between Part-15 and WISPA and we can work to 
  unite the industry again.  This is 
  a major undertaking and we need help from everyone.  Please donate what you can, as soon as 
  you can.  
  
   
  Thanks,
   
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
   
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Part-15/WISPA Cooperative Effort

2005-09-02 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




Awesome.

Rick Harnish wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I have spoken with
Michael Anderson this afternoon.  He has a time
critical report to get off
to FEMA and the FCC by noon tomorrow detailing how the WISP industry
can
help.  We have decided it is best to
work together to complete this task. 
  I have posted an article on the WISPA webpage which directs
the
volunteer efforts to the Part-15 webpage which is already set up to
accept these
donations.  It is my belief that all
of these donations should be coordinated in one place and since Part-15
already
had this list started, it was the appropriate place to do it.  
   
  Hopefully, this is the
first step towards mending the
relationship between Part-15 and WISPA and we can work to unite the
industry
again.  This is a major undertaking
and we need help from everyone. 
  Please donate what you can, as soon as you can. 
  
   
  Thanks,
   
  Rick
Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482
Office
  260-307-4000
Cell
  260-918-4340
VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
   
  
   
  
  

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