Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Hammett


  
  
Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
40mhz
channel width on all radios? Licensed or non?




  
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


300 meg association rate, closer to 130 -
  150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say
  probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have
  usable throughput at the end of that. :-p
  
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 
300mbps
to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using?
Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to
deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may
eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be
a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough
to use for residential installs.








  
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


I'm engineering everything to be able to
  deliver that kind of performance going forward.
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: 
Well,
the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120
degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a
cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus
tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The
bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a
5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate
polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really
wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one
chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to
deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? 

These
look good. Who is stocking them?




  
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


I
got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea


  -
  Jerry



  
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


First
time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds
me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus
Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a
big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width
which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors
not quite getting there.

Hm
  

What
are the price points on these dudes? 

Me-







  
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On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


any experience with these? Any good?

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf

Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Robert West
How are the NanoBridges?  I haven't started using them yet but suggest Liam
give them a try and replace the NanoStations he's been using.  But he's
doing 2.4 so the gain isn't as great on the 2.4's.  Any experience with the
2.4 flavor over the Nano?

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

It's all about how you engineer it.  I'm not judging your installs because I
don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles.
You won't have quality connections doing that.  NanoBridge 22s and 25s are
about all I'm looking to use for CPE.  By the time I'm ready to start
building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available.

In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more
customers, so your ranges are less.  I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles.  In the
country, 10 - 15 miles.

In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70.





 
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 1/5/2011 12:02 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: 

Not sure where you are going to be able to run 3x sectors on 40Mz channels -
at least not where people are.

 

In my fairly noisy area MIMO's strength is the ability get 20-25Mbps on a
10MHz channel

 

- Jerry

 

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP,
not at the CPE.  I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP.  You
might have usable throughput at the end of that.  :-p






 
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 

300mbps to cpe?  I wish!  What mix of equipment are you using?  Logically
the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig.  I
supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what
cost?  Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough
to use for residential installs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance
going forward.





 
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: 

Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree
sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of
these would only equal 510 plus tax.  The difference would pay for shipping
easily.  The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity.  With a
5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the
backhaul and the AP.  Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option
to turn off one chain on the Rockets  Who has a network that needs to
deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer?  

 

These look good.  Who is stocking them?

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea

 

- Jerry

 

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Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me of an
old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the
Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I really like the 130
degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors
not quite getting there.

 

Hm..  

 

What are the price points on these dudes?  

 

Me-

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

any experience with these? Any good?

 

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf

 

 



 

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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Hammett


  
  
I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I
would utilize that.

-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
Doing
the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? 


  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems,
  nothing fancy.
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 
40mhz
channel width on all radios? Licensed or non?




  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


300 meg association rate, closer to 130 -
  150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say
  probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have
  usable throughput at the end of that. :-p
  
  
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 
300mbps
to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using?
Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to
deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may
eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be
a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough
to use for residential installs.








  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


I'm engineering everything to be able to
  deliver that kind of performance going forward.
  
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: 
Well,
the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120
degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a
cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus
tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The
bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a
5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate
polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really
wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one
chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to
deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? 

These
look good. Who is stocking them?




  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


I
got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea


  -
  Jerry



  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


First
time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds
me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus
Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a
big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width
which would fix my issues

Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Initially beam steering will be 5Gig.

Might be a while for 2.4 flavor

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would 
utilize that.




-

Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions

http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote:
Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide?

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy.





-

Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions

http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote:
40mhz channel width on all radios?  Licensed or non?



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not 
at the CPE.  I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP.  You might have 
usable throughput at the end of that.  :-p








-

Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions

http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote:
300mbps to cpe?  I wish!  What mix of equipment are you using?  Logically the 
technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig.  I supposed 
White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost?  
Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use 
for residential installs.







From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going 
forward.







-

Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions

http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote:
Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors 
to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would 
only equal 510 plus tax.  The difference would pay for shipping easily.  The 
bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity.  With a 5.8 system it's 
important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the 
AP.  Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one 
chain on the Rockets  Who has a network that needs to deliver 
300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer?

These look good.  Who is stocking them?



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me of an old 
Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews 
never had except for a big $$ addition.  I really like the 130 degree beam 
width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite 
getting there.

Hm..

What are the price points on these dudes?

Me-






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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

any experience with these? Any good?

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf


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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Hammett


  
  
Right. I don't use any 2.4 in PtMP, only localized access.



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On 1/5/2011 2:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
Initially
beam steering will be 5Gig.

Might
be a while for 2.4 flavor


  -
  Jerry



  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


I believe the Beam Steering AP will only
  come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that.
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: 
Doing
the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? 


  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems,
  nothing fancy.
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 
40mhz
channel width on all radios? Licensed or non?




  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


300 meg association rate, closer to 130 -
  150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say
  probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have
  usable throughput at the end of that. :-p
  
  
  
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 
300mbps
to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using?
Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to
deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may
eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be
a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough
to use for residential installs.








  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
  


I'm engineering everything to be able to
  deliver that kind of performance going forward.
  
  
  
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: 
Well,
the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120
degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a
cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus
tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The
bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a
5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate
polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really
wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one
chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to
deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? 

These
look good. Who is stocking them?




  
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC

Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Greg Ihnen
Steering APs from UBNT?

Greg

On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 It's all about how you engineer it.  I'm not judging your installs because I 
 don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles.  
 You won't have quality connections doing that.  NanoBridge 22s and 25s are 
 about all I'm looking to use for CPE.  By the time I'm ready to start 
 building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available.
 
 In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more 
 customers, so your ranges are less.  I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles.  In the 
 country, 10 - 15 miles.
 
 In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70.
 




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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yessir and with sync too.

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steering APs from UBNT?
 
 Greg
 
 On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 
 It's all about how you engineer it.  I'm not judging your installs because I 
 don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles.  
 You won't have quality connections doing that.  NanoBridge 22s and 25s are 
 about all I'm looking to use for CPE.  By the time I'm ready to start 
 building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available.
 
 In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more 
 customers, so your ranges are less.  I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles.  In the 
 country, 10 - 15 miles.
 
 In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Keep up, you must.

http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/?p=238

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On 1/5/2011 6:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
 Steering APs from UBNT?

 Greg

 On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 It's all about how you engineer it.  I'm not judging your installs because I 
 don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles.  
 You won't have quality connections doing that.  NanoBridge 22s and 25s are 
 about all I'm looking to use for CPE.  By the time I'm ready to start 
 building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available.

 In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more 
 customers, so your ranges are less.  I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles.  In the 
 country, 10 - 15 miles.

 In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70.



 
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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Robert West
Yep.  Check 'em out!

http://www.digdice.com/new-ubiquiti-airmax-products-pictures/



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Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

Steering APs from UBNT?

Greg

On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 It's all about how you engineer it.  I'm not judging your installs because
I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles.
You won't have quality connections doing that.  NanoBridge 22s and 25s are
about all I'm looking to use for CPE.  By the time I'm ready to start
building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available.
 
 In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more
customers, so your ranges are less.  I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles.  In the
country, 10 - 15 miles.
 
 In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70.
 





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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-05 Thread Robert West
Better link.  Has descriptions.

http://www.digdice.com/ubiquiti-new-product-line/




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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

Steering APs from UBNT?

Greg

On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 It's all about how you engineer it.  I'm not judging your installs because
I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles.
You won't have quality connections doing that.  NanoBridge 22s and 25s are
about all I'm looking to use for CPE.  By the time I'm ready to start
building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available.
 
 In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more
customers, so your ranges are less.  I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles.  In the
country, 10 - 15 miles.
 
 In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70.
 





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[WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
any experience with these? Any good?

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf


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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
I was supposed to get samples of these.  Verify that they are available, but
AFAIK they are not yet available.

Regards,

Chuck


On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 any experience with these? Any good?



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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Robert West
First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me of an
old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the
Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I really like the 130
degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors
not quite getting there.

 

Hm..  

 

What are the price points on these dudes?  

 

Me-

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

any experience with these? Any good?

 

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf

 

 



 

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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me of an old 
Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews 
never had except for a big $$ addition.  I really like the 130 degree beam 
width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite 
getting there.

Hm..

What are the price points on these dudes?

Me-






From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

any experience with these? Any good?

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf


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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
Were you able to confirm that they are shipping?

Regards,

Chuck


On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea



 - Jerry



 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Robert West
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna



 First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me of an
 old Andrews configuration except for that bonus “Mechanical slide” that the
 Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I really like the 130
 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors
 not quite getting there.



 Hm……



 What are the price points on these dudes?



 Me-













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 any experience with these? Any good?



 http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf






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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Robert West
Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree
sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of
these would only equal 510 plus tax.  The difference would pay for shipping
easily.  The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity.  With a
5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the
backhaul and the AP.  Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option
to turn off one chain on the Rockets  Who has a network that needs to
deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer?  

 

These look good.  Who is stocking them?

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me of an
old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the
Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I really like the 130
degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors
not quite getting there.

 

Hm..  

 

What are the price points on these dudes?  

 

Me-

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

 

any experience with these? Any good?

 

http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf

 

 



 

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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread RickG
If they're like the rest of ARC's equipment they should be excellent.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 any experience with these? Any good?



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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
At the AirMax conference, I think someone from Ubiquiti said you could
put a couple of 50ohm 30dB attenuators on one chain to externally
disable it.

-Kristian

On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:05 -0500, Robert West wrote:
 Well, the math says that since I’ve been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree
 sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks,
 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax.  The difference would pay
 for shipping easily.  The bonus, hard to say it, but it’s the single
 polarity.  With a 5.8 system it’s important to me to be able to
 separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP.  Man, I really wish
 UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the
 Rockets  Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a
 perfect world) to the customer?  
 
  
 
 These look good.  Who is stocking them?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea
 
  
 
 - Jerry
 
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me
 of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus “Mechanical
 slide” that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I
 really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with
 the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there.
 
  
 
 Hm……  
 
  
 
 What are the price points on these dudes?  
 
  
 
 Me-
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 any experience with these? Any good?
 
  
 
 http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 

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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Robert West
Yep.  An afterthought hardware workaround.  Thought the same thing but messy.  
Would be slick to redirect the energy with a click of the mouse through the 
firmware.  Was suggested early on during the beta tests but was dismissed by 
those who were blinded by the glory.  It just makes logical sense to be able to 
easily switch off a chain.  Crazy, man.  Just crazy..

Heck, I can turn off one antenna in a nothing Wal-Mart wireless 
router



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:03 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

At the AirMax conference, I think someone from Ubiquiti said you could put a 
couple of 50ohm 30dB attenuators on one chain to externally disable it.

-Kristian

On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:05 -0500, Robert West wrote:
 Well, the math says that since I’ve been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree 
 sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks,
 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax.  The difference would pay 
 for shipping easily.  The bonus, hard to say it, but it’s the single 
 polarity.  With a 5.8 system it’s important to me to be able to 
 separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP.  Man, I really wish 
 UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the 
 Rockets  Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a 
 perfect world) to the customer?
 
  
 
 These look good.  Who is stocking them?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea
 
  
 
 - Jerry
 
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me 
 of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus “Mechanical 
 slide” that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I 
 really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with 
 the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there.
 
  
 
 Hm……
 
  
 
 What are the price points on these dudes?  
 
  
 
 Me-
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 any experience with these? Any good?
 
  
 
 http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 

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Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

2011-01-04 Thread Chadd Thompson
As noisy as 2.4 is anymore I don't see how you could run both chains to
begin with. I never realized that you couldn't turn one off. It does seem
like a glaring issue to me.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:33 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

Yep.  An afterthought hardware workaround.  Thought the same thing but
messy.  Would be slick to redirect the energy with a click of the mouse
through the firmware.  Was suggested early on during the beta tests but was
dismissed by those who were blinded by the glory.  It just makes logical
sense to be able to easily switch off a chain.  Crazy, man.  Just
crazy..

Heck, I can turn off one antenna in a nothing Wal-Mart wireless
router



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:03 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna

At the AirMax conference, I think someone from Ubiquiti said you could put a
couple of 50ohm 30dB attenuators on one chain to externally disable it.

-Kristian

On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:05 -0500, Robert West wrote:
 Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree 
 sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks,
 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax.  The difference would pay 
 for shipping easily.  The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single 
 polarity.  With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to 
 separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP.  Man, I really wish 
 UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the 
 Rockets  Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a 
 perfect world) to the customer?
 
  
 
 These look good.  Who is stocking them?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea
 
  
 
 - Jerry
 
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 First time with my eyes.  Looks impressive though.  Design reminds me 
 of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical 
 slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition.  I 
 really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with 
 the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there.
 
  
 
 Hm..
 
  
 
 What are the price points on these dudes?  
 
  
 
 Me-
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM
 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
 
 
  
 
 any experience with these? Any good?
 
  
 
 http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 

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