I think it would make great sense. It would increase security for the
peers as well, if it could get it from a local user more often and a
less often from a potentially entertainment industry monitored source.
We also use private ASNs at sites, and we have one Internet-facing
public ASN encompa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proactive_network_Provider_Participation_for_P2P
P4P is trying to do something very much like that. Lots of issues to
work out as yet.
P2P will evolve but likely will be a mix of P2P/P4P. I know I would love
to have a
P2P cache box to ease/defray the load (off peak, p
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/05/richard_bennett_bittorrent_udp/
Would it not make sense for bittorrrent clients to have a preference
to share with users under the same AS number? Would not help much on
last mile but might on Internet backbone.
Matt
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Can you go into detail on to what happened or some information to it? All I
saw was the nice and clean "500gigs/mo is enough for ever
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Can you go into detail on to what happened or some information to it? All I
saw was the nice and clean "500gigs/mo is enough for everyone, we're
limiting torrent traffic
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> Can you go into detail on to what happened or some information to it? All
> I
> saw was the nice and clean "500gig
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> Jerry Richardson wrote:
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>> Isn't this the best argument for transfer caps?
>>
>> You can spend A
I see - didn't hear that they denied traffic shaping. I must be behind on
the information as I only heard they announced their network was doing so.
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> I don't believe
> Comcast lied nor lied about it. I read in the news that they announced
> their monthly bandwidth limits and Bittorent throttling practices became
> well known. Is this not the case? I do believe that limiting the type of
> traffic is wrong, however the amo
om the government and I'm here to help you"
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> Jeff
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>
>
> If you put it in your AUP, and make sure your users know ab
es of congestion.
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"
Jeff
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Actually they got in trouble for both lying and what they were actually
doing.
Jeff
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Jerry Richardson wrote:
> Isn't this the best argument for transfer caps?
>
> You can spend A LOT of money and time dancing with P2P and shaping, or
> you can just charge $X for Xbytes of data and $Y per Ybytes over that.
A single BitTorrent peer, rate-limited to 64kbps, is still enough to
bri
s of congestion.
>
> "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"
>
> Jeff
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On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Darn, so there isn't a good way to block it anymore.
Well, it will be MUCH more diffi
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Isn't this the best argument for transfer caps?
You can spend A LOT of money and time dancing with P2P and shaping, or you
can just charge $X for Xbytes of data and $Y per Ybytes over that.
If a user wants to use P2P, Netflix
Broadwick
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That, and if you block it you risk running afoul of the same FCC that
hammered Comcast. Just because you aren't huge you aren't immune. I
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On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
&
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:32 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> Darn, so there isn't a good way to block it anymore.
Well, it will be MUCH more difficult to manage, that is a certainty. It
will be MUCH more expensive in terms of CPU requirements as well as
network utilization that will happen in spi
Darn, so there isn't a good way to block it anymore.
Butch Evans wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 21:11 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
It's a good thing I didn't get into being a voip provider. Shouldn't
I be able to block it all now?
All UDP? Nope. You have streaming au
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> It's a good thing I didn't get into being a voip provider.
You might want to rethink that strategy.
I think if you don't offer a phone replacement to the consumer in the
future, you will miss out on a large portion of the market.
Consider this, the telco's use chea
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 21:11 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> It's a good thing I didn't get into being a voip provider. Shouldn't
> I be able to block it all now?
All UDP? Nope. You have streaming audio, DNS and other useful UDP.
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It's a good thing I didn't get into being a voip provider. Shouldn't I
be able to block it all now?
Butch Evans wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 12:03 -0600, Drew Lentz wrote:
" Another solution would be for traffic shapers to look inside the UDP
payload in order to differentiate Vo
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 12:03 -0600, Drew Lentz wrote:
> " Another solution would be for traffic shapers to look inside the UDP
> payload in order to differentiate VoIP from uTP, but this approach is
> frustrated by the protocol obfuscation option that remains a live feature in
> BitTorrent over uTP
8 10:55 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] BitTorrent to go UDP in next release
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/05/richard_bennett_bittorrent_udp/
>
> ³The next official release of the uTorrent client currently in alpha test
> replaces TCP with a cust
Think the author had it right the first time.
Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/05/richard_bennett_bittorrent_udp/
³The next official release of the uTorrent client currently in alpha test
replaces TCP with a custom-built transport protocol called uTP, layered
over the same UDP protocol used by VoIP and gaming. According to BitTorrent
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