Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only?
The radios are plugged into Cisco Catalyst 3750, 3550, or 2950 switches. We're using the copper ports. Haven't tested with SFP. I know of another operator with this same issue. I believe he was using Juniper switches. Trango never solved the problem for him either. His workaround was to connect the radios into Juniper routers, and transport his L2 via MPLS. AFAIK he hasn't had any issues with this. -- Blake Covarrubias On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Brad Belton wrote: > Interesting. We have a few Apex & ApexPlus radios deployed and haven't seen > this. We have preferred to use the GigaPlus in most cases. What are the > Apex radios plugged into? (e.g. Cisco, MikroTik Routerboards, switches etc, > etc.) Does the cable distance make a difference? > > Are you seeing this with the SFP port too? > > Thanks, > > Brad > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:54 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only? > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > >> If you are experiencing traffic lockups & Ethernet instability on >> several of Trango's models I would suggest looking into what common >> denominators are in play on these links. We have not had the trouble >> you are seeing with Trango radios. > > We've been working with Trango from day one on this issue which is now going > on its 10th month with no resolution. Trango seems to believe this a problem > with the Broadcom ethernet chipset in the Apex and ApexPlus radios. The > problem doesn't seem to be related to our network as we can replace a > problematic link with a Trango GigaPlus or DragonWave Horizon Compact and > the problem goes away. > > The only common denominator is those particular Trango models. > > -- > Blake Covarrubias > >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:31 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only? >> >> Hi, >> >> I have a DragonWave Horizon Compact, and an AirPair 100 in the network >> & I've never experienced an issue like this on either unit. Both have >> been rock solid since installed. Sorry, but I don't think I can be >> much of assistance with these. >> >> What you described sounds like something I'd see on a Trango. I've >> experienced similar traffic lockups & ethernet instability on several >> of their models. A reboot always 'fixes' it. >> >> -- >> Blake Covarrubias >> >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:00 AM, Troy Settle wrote: >> >>> I have a backbone with 5 licensed links. Each link is switched to >>> the >> next, forming a continuous L2 network. >>> >>> Yesterday evening, we had a partial breakdown on the very last link. >>> I >> could see traffic /from/ the far end, but the far end was unable to >> see traffic from this side. I could see discovery packets, I could >> see OSPF multicast traffic. I could even see some stuff from a few >> devices that are bridged or switched in on the other side of the link. >>> >>> The last device that was responsive to me, was the Horizon Compact on >>> the >> near side of that last link. Nothing notable in the logs, so I reboot >> and a few minutes later, everything is back to normal. >>> >>> I can't find much of anything in terms of peer-to-peer support for >> Dragonwave equipment, so I figured I'd ask here. does anyone have any >> experience they wouldn't mind sharing about Dragonwaves? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Troy >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only?
Interesting. We have a few Apex & ApexPlus radios deployed and haven't seen this. We have preferred to use the GigaPlus in most cases. What are the Apex radios plugged into? (e.g. Cisco, MikroTik Routerboards, switches etc, etc.) Does the cable distance make a difference? Are you seeing this with the SFP port too? Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only? On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > If you are experiencing traffic lockups & Ethernet instability on > several of Trango's models I would suggest looking into what common > denominators are in play on these links. We have not had the trouble > you are seeing with Trango radios. We've been working with Trango from day one on this issue which is now going on its 10th month with no resolution. Trango seems to believe this a problem with the Broadcom ethernet chipset in the Apex and ApexPlus radios. The problem doesn't seem to be related to our network as we can replace a problematic link with a Trango GigaPlus or DragonWave Horizon Compact and the problem goes away. The only common denominator is those particular Trango models. -- Blake Covarrubias > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:31 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only? > > Hi, > > I have a DragonWave Horizon Compact, and an AirPair 100 in the network > & I've never experienced an issue like this on either unit. Both have > been rock solid since installed. Sorry, but I don't think I can be > much of assistance with these. > > What you described sounds like something I'd see on a Trango. I've > experienced similar traffic lockups & ethernet instability on several > of their models. A reboot always 'fixes' it. > > -- > Blake Covarrubias > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:00 AM, Troy Settle wrote: > >> I have a backbone with 5 licensed links. Each link is switched to >> the > next, forming a continuous L2 network. >> >> Yesterday evening, we had a partial breakdown on the very last link. >> I > could see traffic /from/ the far end, but the far end was unable to > see traffic from this side. I could see discovery packets, I could > see OSPF multicast traffic. I could even see some stuff from a few > devices that are bridged or switched in on the other side of the link. >> >> The last device that was responsive to me, was the Horizon Compact on >> the > near side of that last link. Nothing notable in the logs, so I reboot > and a few minutes later, everything is back to normal. >> >> I can't find much of anything in terms of peer-to-peer support for > Dragonwave equipment, so I figured I'd ask here. does anyone have any > experience they wouldn't mind sharing about Dragonwaves? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Troy >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only?
On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > If you are experiencing traffic lockups & Ethernet instability on several of > Trango's models I would suggest looking into what common denominators are in > play on these links. We have not had the trouble you are seeing with Trango > radios. We've been working with Trango from day one on this issue which is now going on its 10th month with no resolution. Trango seems to believe this a problem with the Broadcom ethernet chipset in the Apex and ApexPlus radios. The problem doesn't seem to be related to our network as we can replace a problematic link with a Trango GigaPlus or DragonWave Horizon Compact and the problem goes away. The only common denominator is those particular Trango models. -- Blake Covarrubias > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:31 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only? > > Hi, > > I have a DragonWave Horizon Compact, and an AirPair 100 in the network & > I've never experienced an issue like this on either unit. Both have been > rock solid since installed. Sorry, but I don't think I can be much of > assistance with these. > > What you described sounds like something I'd see on a Trango. I've > experienced similar traffic lockups & ethernet instability on several of > their models. A reboot always 'fixes' it. > > -- > Blake Covarrubias > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:00 AM, Troy Settle wrote: > >> I have a backbone with 5 licensed links. Each link is switched to the > next, forming a continuous L2 network. >> >> Yesterday evening, we had a partial breakdown on the very last link. I > could see traffic /from/ the far end, but the far end was unable to see > traffic from this side. I could see discovery packets, I could see OSPF > multicast traffic. I could even see some stuff from a few devices that are > bridged or switched in on the other side of the link. >> >> The last device that was responsive to me, was the Horizon Compact on the > near side of that last link. Nothing notable in the logs, so I reboot and a > few minutes later, everything is back to normal. >> >> I can't find much of anything in terms of peer-to-peer support for > Dragonwave equipment, so I figured I'd ask here. does anyone have any > experience they wouldn't mind sharing about Dragonwaves? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Troy >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only?
I've only seen this behavior twice from a Trango radio...it pains me to admit the first time was user error. This happened during a new installation. I was in a hurry.it turned out that one side had "opmode" enabled and the other was not yet turned on! That'll pretty much guarantee one way traffic. The second time was a faulty GigaLINK 11GHz ODU (Serial # 0007). After years of reliable service, this path would at random times begin to lose link lock status on one side. Trango Support was extremely responsive (as always) and ultimately identified which of the four components (IDU or ODU) needed to be replaced. This was not an easy task given the random nature of the problem, but extremely helpful given the location of this link. Trango saved us countless man hours by positively identifying which IDU or ODU was faulty prior to us making the trip out to the site. If you are experiencing traffic lockups & Ethernet instability on several of Trango's models I would suggest looking into what common denominators are in play on these links. We have not had the trouble you are seeing with Trango radios. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only? Hi, I have a DragonWave Horizon Compact, and an AirPair 100 in the network & I've never experienced an issue like this on either unit. Both have been rock solid since installed. Sorry, but I don't think I can be much of assistance with these. What you described sounds like something I'd see on a Trango. I've experienced similar traffic lockups & ethernet instability on several of their models. A reboot always 'fixes' it. -- Blake Covarrubias On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:00 AM, Troy Settle wrote: > I have a backbone with 5 licensed links. Each link is switched to the next, forming a continuous L2 network. > > Yesterday evening, we had a partial breakdown on the very last link. I could see traffic /from/ the far end, but the far end was unable to see traffic from this side. I could see discovery packets, I could see OSPF multicast traffic. I could even see some stuff from a few devices that are bridged or switched in on the other side of the link. > > The last device that was responsive to me, was the Horizon Compact on the near side of that last link. Nothing notable in the logs, so I reboot and a few minutes later, everything is back to normal. > > I can't find much of anything in terms of peer-to-peer support for Dragonwave equipment, so I figured I'd ask here. does anyone have any experience they wouldn't mind sharing about Dragonwaves? > > Thanks, > > -Troy > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only?
Hi, I have a DragonWave Horizon Compact, and an AirPair 100 in the network & I've never experienced an issue like this on either unit. Both have been rock solid since installed. Sorry, but I don't think I can be much of assistance with these. What you described sounds like something I'd see on a Trango. I've experienced similar traffic lockups & ethernet instability on several of their models. A reboot always 'fixes' it. -- Blake Covarrubias On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:00 AM, Troy Settle wrote: > I have a backbone with 5 licensed links. Each link is switched to the next, > forming a continuous L2 network. > > Yesterday evening, we had a partial breakdown on the very last link. I could > see traffic /from/ the far end, but the far end was unable to see traffic > from this side. I could see discovery packets, I could see OSPF multicast > traffic. I could even see some stuff from a few devices that are bridged or > switched in on the other side of the link. > > The last device that was responsive to me, was the Horizon Compact on the > near side of that last link. Nothing notable in the logs, so I reboot and a > few minutes later, everything is back to normal. > > I can’t find much of anything in terms of peer-to-peer support for Dragonwave > equipment, so I figured I’d ask here… does anyone have any experience they > wouldn’t mind sharing about Dragonwaves? > > Thanks, > > -Troy > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Compact - one way traffic only?
I have a backbone with 5 licensed links. Each link is switched to the next, forming a continuous L2 network. Yesterday evening, we had a partial breakdown on the very last link. I could see traffic /from/ the far end, but the far end was unable to see traffic from this side. I could see discovery packets, I could see OSPF multicast traffic. I could even see some stuff from a few devices that are bridged or switched in on the other side of the link. The last device that was responsive to me, was the Horizon Compact on the near side of that last link. Nothing notable in the logs, so I reboot and a few minutes later, everything is back to normal. I can't find much of anything in terms of peer-to-peer support for Dragonwave equipment, so I figured I'd ask here. does anyone have any experience they wouldn't mind sharing about Dragonwaves? Thanks, -Troy ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
