Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-02-14 Thread Troy Settle
Curious... we build wireless because we can't get fiber 'out there.' In fact, we're using wireless backhaul to feed FTTH. If you're needing wireless for last-mile, how are you getting fiber to the tower itself? Why not just fiber to the home? -Troy -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Fiber to one spot is cheaper than fiber to hundreds. Fiber to the rest comes gradually. Plus, most of the time, the fiber is already there or near. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 2/14/2012 10:07 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Curious... we build wireless

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-02-06 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:22 PM, John Scrivner wrote: Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions we have seen of Atheros by Qualcomm and now this latest play into Wifi by otherwise generally licensed zealots of the mobile world: [snip] I predict we'll see all this come to pass

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Fiber to the AP is a great idea and the only way we will be able to meet customer demand. Within 1 year I don't think I'll have any towers that are more than 1 hop from fiber, with many directly on fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/26/2012

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Fellas, build a business plan around and obvious need of the operators And remember that by wifi , they mean n and future versions which use 2.4 and 5.x ghz Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber to the AP

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Roger Howard
Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an 802.11ac gigabit backhaul link to the AP with the new Ubiquiti revolutionary radio? :) On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber to the AP is a great idea and the only way we will be able to meet customer demand.

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread John Scrivner
I am just making a prediction. I believe those with infrastructure in the air and the ground will be deploying these micro-cell platforms like crazy. Will you? Do you now? Scriv On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd rather use spectrum to service customers, not towers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/27/2012 9:23 AM, Roger Howard wrote: Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an 802.11ac gigabit backhaul link to the AP with the new Ubiquiti revolutionary radio?

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Bret Clark
You can still use spectrum for customers as long as your back-haul links use antennas with small beam widths, or run your back-haul links in horizontal and customer links in vertical polarity. The fact that our infrastructure is 100% wireless (outside our Internet upstream links) has been a

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
There is no more advantage to V vs. H with dual polarity equipment. More spectrum for customer access means more bits able to be moved. If I have a gig of wireless backhaul coming into a tower, that's a gig I could be using to make me money. I'd like to have 50 - 100 megabit plans for my

Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-27 Thread Brian Webster
With 10 to 18,000 nodes in a cable citywide deployment you will not have enough spectrum to do that. These new deployments are hard wiring every node to their infrastructure either DOCSIS or fiber. The feature of that is just that your footprint to the end user gets smaller with more interference,

[WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-26 Thread John Scrivner
Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions we have seen of Atheros by Qualcomm and now this latest play into Wifi by otherwise generally licensed zealots of the mobile world: The large mobile carrier equipment companies will supply Wifi solutions to the national players who will

Re: [WISPA] Future of WiFi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-26 Thread Brian Webster
John, I think this will happen faster than you predict. With the Lucent light radio being software defined the technology already exists to do this. Carrier engineering departments are just a bit slow to change. Carriers have to look at the Pico cell design to increase capacity by more