Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?

Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... 

First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.

2nd.
MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under wireless
Internet

So... IF

your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
deal.

IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html wireless internet
text link...

___
3rd. 

IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
need to compete...

I can put a large qualifier that says, If you are looking for FIXED
Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs.


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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

2005-08-30 Thread John Scrivner
I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting 
us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have 
tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I 
am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a 
good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy 
to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to 
post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to 
look through archives or old email messages to find the steps. 
Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically. 
Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on 
this beta effort.

All the best,
John Scrivner


Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:


Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?

Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... 


First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.

2nd.
MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under wireless
Internet

So... IF

your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
deal.

IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html wireless internet
text link...

___
3rd. 


IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
need to compete...

I can put a large qualifier that says, If you are looking for FIXED
Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs.


 


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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

2005-08-30 Thread John Scrivner
I think it would be good to have a way to remove entries for WISPs if we 
wish. I wold encourage a username and password system for this however. 
Not to load you down with work. Just want this to be a success for us all.

Thanks,
Scriv


Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:


Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?

Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... 


First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.

2nd.
MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under wireless
Internet

So... IF

your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
deal.

IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html wireless internet
text link...

___
3rd. 


IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
need to compete...

I can put a large qualifier that says, If you are looking for FIXED
Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs.


 


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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
John, thanks for your positive comments...
As far as I'm concerned. if you consider the 40,000-50,000 UNIQUE
People PER DAY who look at the top TEN of GOOGLE... under wireless
internet

they are NOT finding what they are looking for

#1 =
http://www.internet.com/sections/it.html
#10=
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2115271.stm

Boingo shows up #3 BUT thats just 1 out of TEN listings that shows the
consumer HOW TO GET INTERNET SERVICE... the rest are useless to
someone on dialup wanting faster speed.

So.. there's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY waiting for us.. We just need to pool
are strengths.. and heck.. its important enough to me that i'm willing
to make my fair share of compromises so that we all arrive together...
happily  :o)



RE REMOVE and EDIT.. we are still working on that now.. we're almost
done.. :o)  hang in there... bob



RE ATTEMPTED ADDITION OF POINTS
JOHN, where is your wisp??? lemme see if i can manually add a few
point for you and let you know what i did..




On 8/30/05, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting
 us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have
 tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I
 am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a
 good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy
 to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to
 post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to
 look through archives or old email messages to find the steps.
 Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically.
 Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on
 this beta effort.
 All the best,
 John Scrivner
 
 
 Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
 
 Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
 your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?
 
 Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important...
 
 First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
 map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
 sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.
 
 2nd.
 MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
 our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under wireless
 Internet
 
 So... IF
 
 your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
 in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
 can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
 deal.
 
 IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
 put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html wireless internet
 text link...
 
 ___
 3rd.
 
 IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
 need to compete...
 
 I can put a large qualifier that says, If you are looking for FIXED
 Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
 It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

2005-08-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in our 
service from our website to a website that promotes our competors (as well 
as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back to our site 
again afterwards?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc

IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wispa wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL


OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive
traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too...

to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map...
(Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.)
... I want your help ...
... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the
site within about 2 months

MARKETING PROPOSAL:
THREE things:

1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites
(or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it
is.. see http://linkpopularity.com )
as LITTERALLY:

a href=http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service;Wireless
Internet/a

WHY?
Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on
WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like
see other wisps here... to the map,,, then ONLY people who google
see other wisps here are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's
really gunna search for see other wisps here??? People mainly search
for wireless internet or wireless internet service So.. that's why
the code above is limited to the words wireless internet. If you
want, i can provide google search request starts for words like
wireless internet vs. wisp vs wireless dsl. I can show how much
traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want.

2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL
to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up
more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get
everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and
word of mouth...

3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at
http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is
that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with
10 gallons of traffic daily.

Looking forward to our mutual greater success...

Let me know what pages you linked from too...
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http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com
http://hsdpa-coverage.com

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Suite 102
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

2005-08-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I understood it like this.  We all put those words on our site.  Then 
google will rank those words wireless internet really high in hits and 
send everyone to the evdo wisp site.  But if all we need is the words, 
like Tom said, can I just bury them in the back where no one will see 
them and go get dsl?/??


Tom DeReggi wrote:

Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in 
our service from our website to a website that promotes our competors 
(as well as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back 
to our site again afterwards?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc

IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet 
Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wispa wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL


OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive
traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too...

to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map...
(Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.)
... I want your help ...
... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the
site within about 2 months

MARKETING PROPOSAL:
THREE things:

1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites
(or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it
is.. see http://linkpopularity.com )
as LITTERALLY:

a href=http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service;Wireless
Internet/a

WHY?
Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on
WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like
see other wisps here... to the map,,, then ONLY people who google
see other wisps here are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's
really gunna search for see other wisps here??? People mainly search
for wireless internet or wireless internet service So.. that's why
the code above is limited to the words wireless internet. If you
want, i can provide google search request starts for words like
wireless internet vs. wisp vs wireless dsl. I can show how much
traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want.

2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL
to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up
more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get
everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and
word of mouth...

3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at
http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is
that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with
10 gallons of traffic daily.

Looking forward to our mutual greater success...

Let me know what pages you linked from too...


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[WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

2005-08-19 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive
traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too...

to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map...
(Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.)
... I want your help ...
... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the
site within about 2 months

MARKETING PROPOSAL:
THREE things:

1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites
(or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it
is.. see http://linkpopularity.com )
as LITTERALLY:

a href=http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service;Wireless
Internet/a

WHY?
Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on
WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like
see other wisps here... to the map,,, then ONLY people who google
see other wisps here are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's
really gunna search for see other wisps here??? People mainly search
for wireless internet or wireless internet service So.. that's why
the code above is limited to the words wireless internet. If you
want, i can provide google search request starts for words like
wireless internet vs. wisp vs wireless dsl. I can show how much
traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want.

2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL
to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up
more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get
everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and
word of mouth...

3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at
http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is
that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with
10 gallons of traffic daily.

Looking forward to our mutual greater success...

Let me know what pages you linked from too...
-- 
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http://evdo-coverage.com
http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com
http://hsdpa-coverage.com

2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
Suite 102
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
206 984 0880
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