Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet
Thanks Robert, I'm forwarding this to the board. What are you going to be doing? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet > Team, It's been a while... I'm retiring from the wireless industry so > as a gift, I want to give you a year to year non paid lease to my > flagship website... It gets thousands of clicks a day. AND i'm sure > that with your involvement, it'll get even more... > > GOOGLE: wireless internet > my website http://evd o-coverage.com is NOT being used be me at all > anymore and it gets many many visitors. > > So, You are welcome to upload what ever index.html page you wish. > NOTE... The one thing I recommend is that you upload a digg.com clone > to that site. That way, you can put a WISPA GOOGLE MAP up at the top > AND get increasing traffic on a daily basis from industry > professionals. You get the picture. > > I benefit because while I never charge you a lease fee for that page, > The value of my domain goes up. > > -- > Rob ert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > http://ev do-coverage.com/satelli te-wireless-internet.html > http://ipt v-coverage.com http://wim ax-coverage.com > 2611 S. Pa cific Coast High way 101 > Suite 203 > Ca rdiff by the Sea, CA 920 07 > 206 984 0 880 > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet
Team, It's been a while... I'm retiring from the wireless industry so as a gift, I want to give you a year to year non paid lease to my flagship website... It gets thousands of clicks a day. AND i'm sure that with your involvement, it'll get even more... GOOGLE: wireless internet my website http://evd o-coverage.com is NOT being used be me at all anymore and it gets many many visitors. So, You are welcome to upload what ever index.html page you wish. NOTE... The one thing I recommend is that you upload a digg.com clone to that site. That way, you can put a WISPA GOOGLE MAP up at the top AND get increasing traffic on a daily basis from industry professionals. You get the picture. I benefit because while I never charge you a lease fee for that page, The value of my domain goes up. -- Rob ert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://ev do-coverage.com/satelli te-wireless-internet.html http://ipt v-coverage.com http://wim ax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pa cific Coast High way 101 Suite 203 Ca rdiff by the Sea, CA 920 07 206 984 0 880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I tend to agree with this. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Zack Kneisley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Scriv, I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list? I think that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit rude. I'm not sure how this would come across to Robert, but I know how it would come across to me. Business research is done everyday by doing exactly what Robert is doing, asking questions. Yes, I have a chip on my shoulder to the fact their company is making money off of bringing customers to Verizon, but he would do that if he came here for advice or not. I see this as an opportunity to relate what the services the WISPS on this list provide to someone that only has the experience with Verizon. I see this as an opportunity to possibly bring a customer or 2 to me, nothing more. I am willing to pay for a customer. I't called acquisition costs. Weather its in the cost to keep a customer happy so you get the word out that you have good service or a couple greebacks, the outcome is the same, I want a customer that generates revenue. Sure network condition, price, population density, and market have just as much to do with it, but are only small parts of a larger plan. I have many times thought "It would be nice to have a small display in radio shack like all the cell providers do". Well, Isn't quite the case but it can, potentially, be a source of potential customers that costs me nothing up front, nothing to setup, and could provide me with a customer. The details are just important. Residual, bounty, lead, whatever the case may be, I'm sure that we could come to terms with an arrangement that bennifits myself, Robert, and my newly acquired customer. If its residual, they could be paid a % if and only if the customer pays their bill. No risk there. If it's bounty, then I would pay after a set # of months of a current account, if it were for a lead, then I would have to say let it be web based and let the server app to take care of the lead > customer potential payout, still if only they become a paying customer. These are just what I can think of off the top of my head. I would put it up to Robert to figure out and draft the plan. If I like it ok... If not, no harm done to me. This is why I don't feel he should be bashed and ask for a vendor membership, if they were to want to do something through WISPA, as involving WISPA in the process, sure maybe then WISPA does deserve a "fair share", but at this point, I don't see how that would be fair, as the only thing Robert is using of WISPA is the forum, which is open to anyone, right. When he decides it's worth his money to invest in a $500.00 a month ad through WISPA because it makes sense to his company, then can he ask questions? BTW, RObert, I would be happy to talk to you about setting up a WISP referal system, not just for me, but for any wisp out there, I would be happy to help with the technical side of things and the actual lead, bounty, referal structure, all worked into 1 seamless system that would benefit all WISPS that would like to be involved.free, free for my help and to involve any WISP- free. sorry, no grammar or spell check. Zack Kneisley CTO/Chief Network Engineer Giga-Data LLC Office: 740.432.3130 Cell:740.255.6253 - http://www.firewireinternet.com Your one stop shop for Blazing Broadband Internet DSL, Wireless, Dialup, Webhosting, & Network Specialists. On 8/3/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I guess his business research that we are all helping him to acquire is not worth anything? I guess I see WISPA as being worth more than some here do. I have personally spent $1250.00 in WISPA direct dues payments (for yearly Principal Membership dues and $1000 for 700 MHz Committee dues) in the last year alone. I also donate hundreds of hours a year to maintaining these lists along with Rick Harnish. I DO THIS FOR FREE FOLKS. The guy asking for business research from all of you pays us nothing and is looking to profit from you. I like to think what I share here has value. Excuse me for thinking others who gain from this group effort should pay their fair share. I take offense to others profiting from us without throwing some money into the pot. If any of you make use of WISPA resources and think you get value from this effort then please feel free to join us by going to http://signup.wispa.org. I am paying
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I don't feel a need to defend my statements, but because I believe that this particular incidence could provide a service for others, I will explain my opinion as best as possible. I don't believe my opinion is right or wrong, it is just that, an opinion. Your opinion has as much use as my own, to challenge one to decide on their own, which they agree with, if any. I did not believe or feel that Robert was breaking any rules on this list, I feel he was contributing. I see nothing wrong wiht his post. I did not see his post as a commercial advertisement, nor as selling or self promotion. I have seen this list bicker back and forth about what is and what isn't more than once, and the precedence I have seen among this list doesn't include his particular post as being self promotion. I think his post was fine and could provide a beneficial service. I further think that if you felt his post was breaking a rule, or was pressing the limits as to what is commercial advertising, your concern should have been addressed off-list. If you didn't believe that this was the case, then why publicly and repeatedly express that what he was doing was something wrong. If the majority of the WISPA board thinks he is soliciting, ban him from posting and take the discussion off-list, properly explain how you or the board feels. If he is not soliciting, then don't publicly bash the fact that you pay money to someone and he doesn't. I think my argument is very simple. Zack On 8/3/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Replies below: > > Zack Kneisley wrote: > > Scriv, > > I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list? > > You bet it is open. Thanks to people who pay the dues and donate their > time to keep it that way. > > I think > > that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit > > rude. I'm not sure how this would come across to Robert, but I know how > it > > would come across to me. > > > What did I deny this guy? I consider it rude to use open list resources > as a place to build market data on our industry without throwing a > little money in the kitty. I pay my dues, year in and year out, I donate > my time. So if people want to use this list to develop a new business > model that includes making money from the WISPs who are on here then all > I am saying is that it is "rude" to not throw some money our way and > show you support our industry. How is what this guy is doing with his > "number one placement Google ad bot" any different than someone trying > to sell you or me a better access point or something? We would not allow > that without being a vendor here. I guess the real issue I have about > your argument here is that this list is open and I should be allowed to > explain why I think he should pay a vendor dues payment just as freely > as you are to say I am rude. > > I am not telling Robert he cannot do what he is doing. I just think it > would be better for him to formalize his relationship with WISPA if he > is intending to use our resources to market to our membership here. That > is what we ask of any other vendor. > Scriv > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Replies below: Zack Kneisley wrote: Scriv, I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list? You bet it is open. Thanks to people who pay the dues and donate their time to keep it that way. I think that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit rude. I'm not sure how this would come across to Robert, but I know how it would come across to me. What did I deny this guy? I consider it rude to use open list resources as a place to build market data on our industry without throwing a little money in the kitty. I pay my dues, year in and year out, I donate my time. So if people want to use this list to develop a new business model that includes making money from the WISPs who are on here then all I am saying is that it is "rude" to not throw some money our way and show you support our industry. How is what this guy is doing with his "number one placement Google ad bot" any different than someone trying to sell you or me a better access point or something? We would not allow that without being a vendor here. I guess the real issue I have about your argument here is that this list is open and I should be allowed to explain why I think he should pay a vendor dues payment just as freely as you are to say I am rude. I am not telling Robert he cannot do what he is doing. I just think it would be better for him to formalize his relationship with WISPA if he is intending to use our resources to market to our membership here. That is what we ask of any other vendor. Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I have to agree with this. I am flat broke most of the time and found it in my pocketbook to not drink the fru fru coffee drinks, stick to plain black coffee and send my $25 a month to WISPA. If I can do this, so can _you_ :) ryan (ok, ok... so really my wife and Dr told me to lay off the fru fru drinks as it was making my waste-line too big!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? So I guess his business research that we are all helping him to acquire is not worth anything? I guess I see WISPA as being worth more than some here do. I have personally spent $1250.00 in WISPA direct dues payments (for yearly Principal Membership dues and $1000 for 700 MHz Committee dues) in the last year alone. I also donate hundreds of hours a year to maintaining these lists along with Rick Harnish. I DO THIS FOR FREE FOLKS. The guy asking for business research from all of you pays us nothing and is looking to profit from you. I like to think what I share here has value. Excuse me for thinking others who gain from this group effort should pay their fair share. I take offense to others profiting from us without throwing some money into the pot. If any of you make use of WISPA resources and think you get value from this effort then please feel free to join us by going to http://signup.wispa.org. I am paying my dues. Are you? Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes > back and tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem > with asking people about products and services they'd like though. > That's what this list is here for. > > As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad leads help to > tell me where to go next. > > I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads > themselves. > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:28 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > >> I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay >> for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as >> being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just >> browse to see what's out there. >> >> I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor >> member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by >> accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your >> wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate >> what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us >> qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor >> or stop using us as your sounding board? >> Scriv >> >> >> Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: >>> Marlon, Jerome, >>> >>> so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission >>> payout as long as the customer pays? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is >>>> a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking >>>> them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My >>>> referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or >>>> customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service >>>> as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Marlon, guys, >>>>> is there an industry standard referral commission? >>>>> anyone out there service europe? >>>>> I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come >>>>> to our site need FIXED not mobile internet >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
out that. Even bad leads help to > > tell me where to go next. > > > > I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads > > themselves. > > > > Marlon > > (509) 982-2181 > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > > 1999! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > >> I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay > >> for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as > >> being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just > >> browse to see what's out there. > >> > >> I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor > >> member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by > >> accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your > >> wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate > >> what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us > >> qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor > >> or stop using us as your sounding board? > >> Scriv > >> > >> > >> Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: > >>> Marlon, Jerome, > >>> > >>> so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > >>> payout as long as the customer pays? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > >>>> a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > >>>> them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > >>>> referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > >>>> customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > >>>> as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Marlon, guys, > >>>>> is there an industry standard referral commission? > >>>>> anyone out there service europe? > >>>>> I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that > come > >>>>> to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and > >>>>>> when > >>>>>> someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll > >>>>>> try to > >>>>>> sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. > >>>>>> You get to > >>>>>> "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to > >>>>>> get to them > >>>>>> today, but can with the next expansion. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to > >>>>>> make sure > >>>>>> we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > >>>>>> distance rates > >>>>>> that shouldn't be hard to do. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> just a thought. > >>>>>> Marlon > >>>>>> (509) 982-2181 > >>>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > >>>>>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator > >>>>>> since 1999! > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireles
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
So I guess his business research that we are all helping him to acquire is not worth anything? I guess I see WISPA as being worth more than some here do. I have personally spent $1250.00 in WISPA direct dues payments (for yearly Principal Membership dues and $1000 for 700 MHz Committee dues) in the last year alone. I also donate hundreds of hours a year to maintaining these lists along with Rick Harnish. I DO THIS FOR FREE FOLKS. The guy asking for business research from all of you pays us nothing and is looking to profit from you. I like to think what I share here has value. Excuse me for thinking others who gain from this group effort should pay their fair share. I take offense to others profiting from us without throwing some money into the pot. If any of you make use of WISPA resources and think you get value from this effort then please feel free to join us by going to http://signup.wispa.org. I am paying my dues. Are you? Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes back and tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem with asking people about products and services they'd like though. That's what this list is here for. As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad leads help to tell me where to go next. I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads themselves. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only g
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Ask a potential buyer of your company what they think about long term residual payouts to outside parties. If you pay out it better be for a one time fee in my opinion. Scriv Zack Kneisley wrote: Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
With our current program if you are a customer and send me a new customer you get a free month ($35 to $40 value). Up to 12 per year. If you send me more people that that I'll just hire you as a sales person! grin If you aren't a customer and send a customer my way (it happens) then you get a big thank you! laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try > to > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You > get to > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to > them > today, but can with the next expansion. > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make > sure > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance > rates > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > just a thought. > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "wispa" > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > internet service. > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > blank slate. > > > > -- > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > Suite 203 > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > 206 984 0880 > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
One of my competitors is paying $10/month commission to anyone that signs up customers for him. His packages start at $24.95/month for up to 1.5meg and $34.95/month for 4meg down/1meg up. He is using Canopy, with a free install. I wonder how long this one will last... in the past 10 years, we have seen 5 other wireless companies come to the area... and today they are all out of business. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: $10 per month on a $30 to $40 per month account? It is to laugh! hehehehe One time fee. If you want a recuring fee I could go for that. It'll be in the $.25 to $.5 range though. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marlon, guys, > is there an industry standard referral commission? > anyone out there service europe? > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try > > to > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You > > get to > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to > > them > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make > > sure > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > > distance rates > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > just a thought. > > Marlon > > (509) 982-2181 > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > > 1999! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "wispa" > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > internet service. > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > -- > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > > Suite 203 > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > > 206 984 0880 > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
We don't pay our referral until the new customer has paid at least one month's billing. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? For me, it depends on the account of the person doing the referral. Relays get a monthly per connected user, till their service is free, after that they get nothing. Plain referrals get a one time credit. Both are done as credits in the next billing cycle. The main issue I see is how to handle people that look to be a bad risk. A contract is worthless with some clients so I do everything monthly. I keep ownership of the hardware and they sign and AUP and TOS that states they are responsible for its safe keep and return. So far no issues with people running off but it is coming, as is dead beat payers. With the referral structure I use people do not refer a disreputable person. On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Marlon, guys, > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > anyone out there service europe? > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and > > > when > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll > > > try to > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. > > > You get to > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get > > > to them > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to > > > make sure > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > > > distance rates > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > just a thought. > > > Marlon > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator > > > since 1999! > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "wispa" > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for > > > > wireless > > > > internet service. > > > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. > > > > any > > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > > htt
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes back and tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem with asking people about products and services they'd like though. That's what this list is here for. As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad leads help to tell me where to go next. I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads themselves. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wire
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
$10 per month on a $30 to $40 per month account? It is to laugh! hehehehe One time fee. If you want a recuring fee I could go for that. It'll be in the $.25 to $.5 range though. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marlon, guys, > is there an industry standard referral commission? > anyone out there service europe? > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try > > to > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You > > get to > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to > > them > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make > > sure > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > > distance rates > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > just a thought. > > Marlon > > (509) 982-2181 > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > > 1999! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "wispa" > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > internet service. > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > -- > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > > Suite 203 > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > > 206 984 0880 > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > &
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
None taken. Our markets and delivered services are likely very different. Currently we do not profit that much (3 digits) from our users so its hard to pay that much. As others stated it would have to be for installed users only, not just the lead. Also, what about people who come to us and turn it down, but come back in 6 months, a year, 18 months? Does the bounty stand or is there a time limit? The main reason I am interested is so that I keep ahead of others in the area, evdo being one of them since Version just spent a lot of money on new towers out here. If only there was whole sale access to evdo so I could sell my own service via its last mile and bundle it with my current offerings. On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert > > I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is > impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to > pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. > Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a > lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair > payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of > the most important aspects of the game. > > I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's > fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. > > Zack > > On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Marlon, Jerome, > > > > so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > > payout as long as the customer pays? > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > > > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > > > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > > > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > > > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > > > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Marlon, guys, > > > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > > > anyone out there service europe? > > > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and > > when > > > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll > > try to > > > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or > > $20. You get to > > > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get > > to them > > > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to > > make sure > > > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > > distance rates > > > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > Marlon > > > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator > > since 1999! > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "wispa" > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > &g
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I have only had one customer (that I can think of now) balk at the install cost, but he has a referral credit because he has since referred two others to the service. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I'd pay for completed installs. But not just leads. Way too many people balk at the install cost or the antenna on the house. And a one time payment. Way too much paperwork for a recurring payment. Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I'd pay for completed installs. But not just leads. Way too many people balk at the install cost or the antenna on the house. And a one time payment. Way too much paperwork for a recurring payment. Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
We would be willing to pay bounty for clients. Would prefer to not do residual, is too much paperwork. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zack Kneisley Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marlon, Jerome, > > so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > payout as long as the customer pays? > > > > On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Marlon, guys, > > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > > anyone out there service europe? > > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and > when > > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll > try to > > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or > $20. You get to > > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get > to them > > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to > make sure > > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > distance rates > > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > Marlon > > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services > > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator > since 1999! > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "wispa" > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > > > internet service. > > > > > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > &g
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marlon, Jerome, > > so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > payout as long as the customer pays? > > > > On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Marlon, guys, > > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > > anyone out there service europe? > > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and > when > > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll > try to > > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or > $20. You get to > > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get > to them > > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to > make sure > > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long > distance rates > > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > Marlon > > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services > > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator > since 1999! > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "wispa" > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > > > internet service. > > > > > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > > > > Suite 203 > > > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > > > > 206 984 0880 > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA W
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Are WISPs going to lose their renegade attitude and attempt to bond together to take advantage of situations like this? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
For me, I see it as I will do the qualifying (I can pretty much hit anyone in the area) one I know they are there. I hope they do join and this helps all wisps, but I also hope its available to non members. The main concern I have is that Verizon just build out EVDO in my area, where as it was not here 6 months ago. Who gets the user in those cases? On 8/3/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay > for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being > someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse > to see what's out there. > > I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor > member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing > the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to > them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are > doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I > am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your > sounding board? > Scriv > > > Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: > > Marlon, Jerome, > > > > so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > > payout as long as the customer pays? > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > >> a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > >> them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > >> referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > >> customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > >> as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Marlon, guys, > >>> is there an industry standard referral commission? > >>> anyone out there service europe? > >>> I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > >>> to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > >>>> someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to > >>>> sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You > >>>> get to > >>>> "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to > >>>> them > >>>> today, but can with the next expansion. > >>>> > >>>> You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make > >>>> sure > >>>> we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance > >>>> rates > >>>> that shouldn't be hard to do. > >>>> > >>>> just a thought. > >>>> Marlon > >>>> (509) 982-2181 > >>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > >>>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > >>>> 1999! > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > >>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> - Original Message - > >>>> From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> To: "wispa" > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Team, Marlon, et al, > >>>>> > >>>>> Need your help to get to next level. > >>>>> > >>>>> We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > >>>>> > >>>>> we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > >>>>> internet service. > >>>>> > >>>>> BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
For me, it depends on the account of the person doing the referral. Relays get a monthly per connected user, till their service is free, after that they get nothing. Plain referrals get a one time credit. Both are done as credits in the next billing cycle. The main issue I see is how to handle people that look to be a bad risk. A contract is worthless with some clients so I do everything monthly. I keep ownership of the hardware and they sign and AUP and TOS that states they are responsible for its safe keep and return. So far no issues with people running off but it is coming, as is dead beat payers. With the referral structure I use people do not refer a disreputable person. On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marlon, Jerome, > > so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission > payout as long as the customer pays? > > > > On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Marlon, guys, > > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > > anyone out there service europe? > > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to > > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You > > > > get to > > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to > > > > them > > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make > > > > sure > > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance > > > > rates > > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > Marlon > > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services > > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > > > > 1999! > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "wispa" > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > > > internet service. > > > > > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > > > > Suite 203 > > > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > > > > 206 984 0880 > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is > a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking > them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My > referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or > customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service > as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. > > > > On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marlon, guys, > > is there an industry standard referral commission? > > anyone out there service europe? > > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to > > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get > > > to > > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them > > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure > > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance > > > rates > > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > > > just a thought. > > > Marlon > > > (509) 982-2181 > > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > > > 1999! > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "wispa" > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > > internet service. > > > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > > > Suite 203 > > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > > > 206 984 0880 > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless In
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marlon, guys, > is there an industry standard referral commission? > anyone out there service europe? > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet > > > > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them > > today, but can with the next expansion. > > > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates > > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > > > just a thought. > > Marlon > > (509) 982-2181 > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "wispa" > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > > internet service. > > > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > > > blank slate. > > > > > > -- > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > > Suite 203 > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > > 206 984 0880 > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > Suite 203 > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > 206 984 0880 > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them > today, but can with the next expansion. > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates > that shouldn't be hard to do. > > just a thought. > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "wispa" > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? > > > > Team, Marlon, et al, > > > > Need your help to get to next level. > > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless > > internet service. > > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > > > blank slate. > > > > -- > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > > Suite 203 > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > > 206 984 0880 > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
The fixed wireless industry is too fragmented to have any sort of system you're looking for. Too many independent renegades. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "wispa" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Hi Robert, Can you clarify what you mean by "We only sell EVDO?" Are you asking what you should do with the "hits" you get seeking wireless internet service? I visited your website http://evdo-coverage.com/ There is nothing inherently wrong with EVDO. My experience is end users are seeking higher throughput. The other feature that's been discussed is the "dual mode" capability of end user devices. It really depends on the Mission, Goals and Objectives of your company. What problems are you trying to solve? What are you trying to achieve (build revenue?), and what is your short, mid, long term tactical strategic plan. Felix Lopez Wireless and Utilities practioner San Francisco, CA --- Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Team, Marlon, et al, > > Need your help to get to next level. > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily > looking for wireless > internet service. > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one > time bounty. any > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can > deliver > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? > > blank slate. > > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > Suite 203 > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > 206 984 0880 > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
