Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-14 Thread John Scrivner 
Kris Twomey has reportedly negotiated access to exclusion zones
successfully. He is a telcom attorney and can be contacted by emailing him
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or find other contact info at http://www.lokt.net/
Scriv


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> Yes, excluded. I had a WISP in West Palm that I just sold but I had
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> -RickG
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> > RickG wrote:
> >> I thought 3650 was blocked in Florida?
> >> -RickG
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> > By blocked do you mean the exclusion zones? Access to those can be
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> > To my knowledge no one has done this yet. At least I haven't found any
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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-13 Thread RickG 
Yes, excluded. I had a WISP in West Palm that I just sold but I had
noted previously it was excluded from 3650 (not the reason I sold it).
At any rate, I try to assist the new owners so any info is good to
know.
-RickG

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Charles Wyble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RickG wrote:
>> I thought 3650 was blocked in Florida?
>> -RickG
>>
>>
>
> By blocked do you mean the exclusion zones? Access to those can be
> negotiated. I'm in the process of doing that now in Southern California.
> To my knowledge no one has done this yet. At least I haven't found any
> existing licenses issued in the SoCal area.
>
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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-13 Thread Charles Wyble 
RickG wrote:
> I thought 3650 was blocked in Florida?
> -RickG
>
>   

By blocked do you mean the exclusion zones? Access to those can be 
negotiated. I'm in the process of doing that now in Southern California. 
To my knowledge no one has done this yet. At least I haven't found any 
existing licenses issued in the SoCal area.

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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-13 Thread RickG 
I thought 3650 was blocked in Florida?
-RickG

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you believe they mean true Wi-MAX then do you believe it's licensed
> Wi-MAX or licensed-lite Wi-MAX in 3650?
>
> Charles Wyble wrote:
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Either:
>>>
>>> a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members
>>> know (because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni
>>> Wi-MAX networks), or
>>>
>>> b) The opposite is true, or
>>>
>>> c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and
>>> WiMAX (again).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No... I think they mean WiMAX. The quote:
>>
>>
>> A few more base stations would have to be installed around the city to
>> make all of Delray Beach wireless.
>>
>> to me implies WiMAX. Unless the city is quite small, I don't think a
>> handful of (meshed) Access Points could cover it.
>> I mean unless he is using 3.65Ghz perhaps?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Wyble 
Jack Unger wrote:
> If you believe they mean true Wi-MAX then do you believe it's licensed 
> Wi-MAX or licensed-lite Wi-MAX in 3650?
>   

For 2.5 million I'm thinking licensed. 

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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-12 Thread Doug Ratcliffe 
ClearWire managed to bridge the digital divide with Wimax in many places. 
So whats the big deal with what this guys doing other than the free 
investment advertisement?  He's charging monthly for access, and you still 
need a CPE to use it.  So did Towerstream.  If someone gave me 2.5 million 
I'd bridge it here too.

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> If you believe they mean true Wi-MAX then do you believe it's licensed
> Wi-MAX or licensed-lite Wi-MAX in 3650?
>
> Charles Wyble wrote:
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.
>>>
>>> <http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/08/09/3592867.htm>
>>>
>>> Either:
>>>
>>> a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members
>>> know (because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni
>>> Wi-MAX networks), or
>>>
>>> b) The opposite is true, or
>>>
>>> c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and
>>> WiMAX (again).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No... I think they mean WiMAX. The quote:
>>
>>
>> A few more base stations would have to be installed around the city to
>> make all of Delray Beach wireless.
>>
>> to me implies WiMAX. Unless the city is quite small, I don't think a
>> handful of (meshed) Access Points could cover it.
>> I mean unless he is using 3.65Ghz perhaps?
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-12 Thread Jack Unger 
If you believe they mean true Wi-MAX then do you believe it's licensed 
Wi-MAX or licensed-lite Wi-MAX in 3650?

Charles Wyble wrote:
> Jack Unger wrote:
>   
>> Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.  
>>
>> 
>>
>> Either:
>>
>> a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members 
>> know (because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni 
>> Wi-MAX networks), or
>>
>> b) The opposite is true, or
>>
>> c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and 
>> WiMAX (again).
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> No... I think they mean WiMAX. The quote:
>
>
> A few more base stations would have to be installed around the city to 
> make all of Delray Beach wireless.
>
> to me implies WiMAX. Unless the city is quite small, I don't think a 
> handful of (meshed) Access Points could cover it. 
> I mean unless he is using 3.65Ghz perhaps? 
>
>   

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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Wyble 
Jack Unger wrote:
> Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.  
>
> 
>
> Either:
>
> a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members 
> know (because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni 
> Wi-MAX networks), or
>
> b) The opposite is true, or
>
> c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and 
> WiMAX (again).
>
>   

No... I think they mean WiMAX. The quote:


A few more base stations would have to be installed around the city to 
make all of Delray Beach wireless.

to me implies WiMAX. Unless the city is quite small, I don't think a 
handful of (meshed) Access Points could cover it. 
I mean unless he is using 3.65Ghz perhaps? 

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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Wyble 
ralph wrote:
> Please elaborate, Jeff.
>
> Ralph
>   

Yes Jeff. Please elaborate.


There are various community projects that are somewhat successful. 
Various muni service networks that are operational.  Certainly providing 
free access to everyone didn't and isn't going to work (see earthlink :)

However city wide mesh for various uses does have success stories.

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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-11 Thread ralph 
Please elaborate, Jeff.

Ralph

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He should have tried this 2 years ago before it wasn't common knowledge that
citywide mesh =! Work

 


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Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.  

<http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/08/09/3592867.htm>

Either:

a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members know
(because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni Wi-MAX
networks), or

b) The opposite is true, or

c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and WiMAX
(again).


jack

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Re: [WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-11 Thread Jeff Booher 
He should have tried this 2 years ago before it wasn't common knowledge that
citywide mesh =! Work

 


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Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.  

<http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/08/09/3592867.htm>

Either:

a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members know
(because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni Wi-MAX
networks), or

b) The opposite is true, or

c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and WiMAX
(again).


jack

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[WISPA] He knows what we don't... ???

2008-08-11 Thread Jack Unger 
Here's a guy who is "building" a Muni WiMAX network all by himself.  



Either:

a) This gentleman believes he knows a whole lot more than WISPA members 
know (because very few WISPA members are single-handedly building Muni 
Wi-MAX networks), or

b) The opposite is true, or

c) Neither of the above. Another journalist is conflating Wi-Fi and 
WiMAX (again).


jack

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