Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-08 Thread RickG
LOL! I might use an analogy of internet for that one. Sometimes I forget how
to put an ethernet end on - but then it all comes back to me :)

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:30 AM, jp  wrote:

> I can make change by either math or the count to 100 method, but I'll
> stick up for the guy a little bit. After taking 5 calculus classes,
> differential equations, discrete mathematics, and algorithms, my ability
> to do simple addition and subtraction was permanently impaired. I
> studied CS instead of math, but math was an important part of the
> program.
>
> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:44:43PM -0500, RickG wrote:
> > We must live parallel lives! I stopped at an Arbys for lunch a while back
> in
> > a college town. The register was out. My total was $5.15. I gave the
> "kid" a
> > $10 and a quarter. He handed me 4 ones and a dime. I asked him to rethink
> > the change. He scratched his head and finally the manager came over and
> > corrected the situation. I asked the "kid" if he was going to college
> there.
> > He said yes. I asked what his major was and he replied "I'm a math
> major".
> > -RickG
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Robert West  >wrote:
> >
> > > Trust me.  I've seen it and I've lived it.  I used to have to teach
> these
> > > kids to make change.  I'd say, "Can you count from one to a hundred?"
> > > *YUP!*  "Then you can make change."  Many still didn't get it..
> > > sigh..  "A customer owes 30 bucks and they give you 2
> twenties..
> > > How much do you owe them back?" I'd say."I dunno.." would be
> the
> > > answer.  "You can't count from 30 to 40?"  I don't really fault the
> > > schools,
> > > a lot of it has to do with experience.  If you never needed it, you
> don't
> > > have it.  Brain cells that is.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:19 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> > >
> > > Obviously you've never seen a cash register worker count change when
> the
> > > machine is broken.
> > >
> > > Longest 10 minutes of my life.  I just tipped them the $2 and change.
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > > --- Albert Einstein
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride
> the
> > > city
> > > > busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.
>  A
> > > > bus
> > > > pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be,
> was a
> > > > "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were
> normally on
> > > > video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> > > > entire
> > > > bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed
> > > causing
> > > > all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever
> that
> > > > means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a
> clue
> > > > how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> > > > there
> > > >
> > > > Bob-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> > > > To: WISPA General List
> > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > > > >> check my visual voicemail or get online
> > > >
> > > > Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
> &g

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-08 Thread jp
I can make change by either math or the count to 100 method, but I'll 
stick up for the guy a little bit. After taking 5 calculus classes, 
differential equations, discrete mathematics, and algorithms, my ability 
to do simple addition and subtraction was permanently impaired. I 
studied CS instead of math, but math was an important part of the 
program.

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:44:43PM -0500, RickG wrote:
> We must live parallel lives! I stopped at an Arbys for lunch a while back in
> a college town. The register was out. My total was $5.15. I gave the "kid" a
> $10 and a quarter. He handed me 4 ones and a dime. I asked him to rethink
> the change. He scratched his head and finally the manager came over and
> corrected the situation. I asked the "kid" if he was going to college there.
> He said yes. I asked what his major was and he replied "I'm a math major".
> -RickG
> 
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Robert West wrote:
> 
> > Trust me.  I've seen it and I've lived it.  I used to have to teach these
> > kids to make change.  I'd say, "Can you count from one to a hundred?"
> > *YUP!*  "Then you can make change."  Many still didn't get it..
> > sigh..  "A customer owes 30 bucks and they give you 2 twenties..
> > How much do you owe them back?" I'd say."I dunno.." would be the
> > answer.  "You can't count from 30 to 40?"  I don't really fault the
> > schools,
> > a lot of it has to do with experience.  If you never needed it, you don't
> > have it.  Brain cells that is.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:19 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >
> > Obviously you've never seen a cash register worker count change when the
> > machine is broken.
> >
> > Longest 10 minutes of my life.  I just tipped them the $2 and change.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the
> > city
> > > busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A
> > > bus
> > > pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
> > > "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
> > > video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> > > entire
> > > bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed
> > causing
> > > all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
> > > means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
> > > how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> > > there
> > >
> > > Bob-
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > > >> check my visual voicemail or get online
> > >
> > > Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
> > >
> > > Scottie
> > >
> > > -- Original Message --
> > > From: Josh Luthman 
> > > Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> > > Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
> > >
> > > >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
> > > that.
> > > >
> > > >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> > > >
> > > >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> > > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > > >> check my visual voicemail or

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread RickG
We must live parallel lives! I stopped at an Arbys for lunch a while back in
a college town. The register was out. My total was $5.15. I gave the "kid" a
$10 and a quarter. He handed me 4 ones and a dime. I asked him to rethink
the change. He scratched his head and finally the manager came over and
corrected the situation. I asked the "kid" if he was going to college there.
He said yes. I asked what his major was and he replied "I'm a math major".
-RickG

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Robert West wrote:

> Trust me.  I've seen it and I've lived it.  I used to have to teach these
> kids to make change.  I'd say, "Can you count from one to a hundred?"
> *YUP!*  "Then you can make change."  Many still didn't get it..
> sigh..  "A customer owes 30 bucks and they give you 2 twenties..
> How much do you owe them back?" I'd say."I dunno.." would be the
> answer.  "You can't count from 30 to 40?"  I don't really fault the
> schools,
> a lot of it has to do with experience.  If you never needed it, you don't
> have it.  Brain cells that is.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:19 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
> Obviously you've never seen a cash register worker count change when the
> machine is broken.
>
> Longest 10 minutes of my life.  I just tipped them the $2 and change.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West
> wrote:
>
> > That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the
> city
> > busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A
> > bus
> > pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
> > "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
> > video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> > entire
> > bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed
> causing
> > all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
> > means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
> > how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> > there
> >
> > Bob-
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >
> >
> > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > >> check my visual voicemail or get online
> >
> > Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
> >
> > Scottie
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: Josh Luthman 
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> > Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
> >
> > >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
> > that.
> > >
> > >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> > >
> > >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > >> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> > >> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
> > >>
> > >> -Kevin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism 
> > wrote:
> > >>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> > >>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> > >>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> > >>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> > >>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> > >>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> > >>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
&

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Wait!  There's more!
The Continental Airlines vertically-mounted plasma screens that show
flight/gate/time in Houston were frozen showing a Windows error... not
long ago.

. . . J o n a t h a n 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

I had something like that. There is a building in West Palm that has an
elevator. At each stop, the automated computer calls out the floor number.
On the top floor, it plays the old windows error .wav sound. It gives you
a strange feeling knowing Windows is in charge of the elevator in a
skyscraper!

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West
wrote:

> That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the 
> city busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really 
> late.  A bus pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name 
> would be, was a "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and 
> schedules were normally on video screens but they kept blue screening.  
> Windows XP.  The entire bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH 
> even!) and the main server crashed causing all the busses to be 
> "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that means.  I kept 
> saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue how a 
> server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to 
> there
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
>
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to 
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online
>
> Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
>
> >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate 
> >admitting
> that.
> >
> >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> >
> >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to 
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, 
> >> so far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
> >>
> >> -Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism 
> wrote:
> >>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering 
> >>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at 
> >>> the time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> >>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes 
> >>> or remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great 
> >>> help. It has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I 
> >>> start experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jack Unger 
> >>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
> >>>> To: WISPA General List 
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest 
> >>>> consumer gadget.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to 
> >>>> rush out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> >>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training Serving 
> >>>> the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities Since 
> >>>> 1993 www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> ---
> >>>> ---
> >>>> 

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
That's just terrifying...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:34 PM, RickG  wrote:

> I had something like that. There is a building in West Palm that has an
> elevator. At each stop, the automated computer calls out the floor number.
> On the top floor, it plays the old windows error .wav sound. It gives you a
> strange feeling knowing Windows is in charge of the elevator in a
> skyscraper!
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West  >wrote:
>
> > That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the
> city
> > busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A
> > bus
> > pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
> > "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
> > video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> > entire
> > bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed
> causing
> > all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
> > means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
> > how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> > there
> >
> > Bob-
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >
> >
> > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > >> check my visual voicemail or get online
> >
> > Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
> >
> > Scottie
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: Josh Luthman 
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> > Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
> >
> > >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
> > that.
> > >
> > >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> > >
> > >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> > >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> > >> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> > >> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
> > >>
> > >> -Kevin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism 
> > wrote:
> > >>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> > >>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> > >>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> > >>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> > >>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> > >>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> > >>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: Jack Unger 
> > >>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
> > >>>> To: WISPA General List 
> > >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> > >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
> > >>>> consumer
> > >>>> gadget.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to
> rush
> > >>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> > >>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training
> > >>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communit

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Robert West
Trust me.  I've seen it and I've lived it.  I used to have to teach these
kids to make change.  I'd say, "Can you count from one to a hundred?"
*YUP!*  "Then you can make change."  Many still didn't get it..
sigh..  "A customer owes 30 bucks and they give you 2 twenties..
How much do you owe them back?" I'd say."I dunno.." would be the
answer.  "You can't count from 30 to 40?"  I don't really fault the schools,
a lot of it has to do with experience.  If you never needed it, you don't
have it.  Brain cells that is.



  

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

Obviously you've never seen a cash register worker count change when the
machine is broken.

Longest 10 minutes of my life.  I just tipped them the $2 and change.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West
wrote:

> That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the
city
> busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A
> bus
> pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
> "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
> video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> entire
> bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed
causing
> all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
> means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
> how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> there
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
>
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online
>
> Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
>
> >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
> that.
> >
> >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> >
> >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> >> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
> >>
> >> -Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism 
> wrote:
> >>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> >>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> >>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> >>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> >>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> >>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> >>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jack Unger 
> >>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
> >>>> To: WISPA General List 
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
> >>>> consumer
> >>>> gadget.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
> >>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
> >>>>
> >

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread RickG
I had something like that. There is a building in West Palm that has an
elevator. At each stop, the automated computer calls out the floor number.
On the top floor, it plays the old windows error .wav sound. It gives you a
strange feeling knowing Windows is in charge of the elevator in a
skyscraper!

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West wrote:

> That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the city
> busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A
> bus
> pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
> "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
> video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> entire
> bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed causing
> all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
> means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
> how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> there
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
>
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online
>
> Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
>
> >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
> that.
> >
> >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> >
> >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> >> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
> >>
> >> -Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism 
> wrote:
> >>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> >>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> >>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> >>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> >>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> >>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> >>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jack Unger 
> >>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
> >>>> To: WISPA General List 
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
> >>>> consumer
> >>>> gadget.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
> >>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> >>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training
> >>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities
> >>>> Since 1993
> >>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> ---
> >>>> ---
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Obviously you've never seen a cash register worker count change when the
machine is broken.

Longest 10 minutes of my life.  I just tipped them the $2 and change.

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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Robert West wrote:

> That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the city
> busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A
> bus
> pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
> "Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
> video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The
> entire
> bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed causing
> all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
> means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
> how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
> there
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
>
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online
>
> Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500
>
> >Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
> that.
> >
> >VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
> >
> >On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> >> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> >> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> >> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
> >>
> >> -Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism 
> wrote:
> >>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> >>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> >>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> >>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> >>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> >>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> >>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jack Unger 
> >>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
> >>>> To: WISPA General List 
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
> >>>> consumer
> >>>> gadget.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
> >>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> >>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training
> >>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities
> >>>> Since 1993
> >>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Robert West
That reminds me of a trip I took to Italy a few years ago.  I ride the city
busses when I travel and the busses were running really, really late.  A bus
pulled up and the sign on the front, where a street name would be, was a
"Dump Error" and inside the bus the routes and schedules were normally on
video screens but they kept blue screening.  Windows XP.  The entire
bus system was on XP (In ENGLISH even!) and the main server crashed causing
all the busses to be "lost".  I was just "flabbergasted", whatever that
means.  I kept saying, "Just drive the damn bus!"  I still haven't a clue
how a server crash can stop a guy from driving a bus from here to
there

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone


>> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
>> check my visual voicemail or get online

Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500

>Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting
that.
>
>VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
>
>On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
>> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
>> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
>>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
>>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
>>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
>>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
>>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
>>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Jack Unger 
>>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
>>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
>>>> consumer
>>>> gadget.
>>>>
>>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training
>>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities
>>>> Since 1993
>>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Scottie Arnett

>> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
>> check my visual voicemail or get online

Kevin, is your phone running Windows? LOL, couldn't resist.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Thu, 7 Jan 2010 00:49:33 -0500

>Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting that.
>
>VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
>
>On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
>> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
>> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
>>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
>>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
>>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
>>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
>>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
>>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Jack Unger 
>>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
>>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
>>>> consumer
>>>> gadget.
>>>>
>>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training
>>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities
>>>> Since 1993
>>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread David E. Smith
> but a CDMA
> version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint).


Oh how I wish this were true. Even though the technologies are compatible,
Sprint refuses to activate Verizon phones and vice versa.



> Google is attempting
> to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly without
> tying the buyer to a specific carrier - although some carrier's may choose
> to subsidize the device if you contract with them).
>
>
I'm not sure this is much of a change - GSM carriers have offered this for a
very long time. You can put your SIM in just about any phone (assuming the
frequencies are compatible with your carrier, but most phones support so
many bands these days it's rarely an issue), and go.

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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Neal
You would think so, but when I go to a bigger city, it performs flawlessly.

-Kevin


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting that.
>
> VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
>
> On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
>> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
>> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
>>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
>>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
>>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
>>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
>>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
>>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Jack Unger 
>>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
>>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
>>>> consumer
>>>> gadget.
>>>>
>>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>>> Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training
>>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities
>>>> Since 1993
>>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  jun...@ask-wi.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread Philip Dorr
Me, It is cheaper (over a two year period) to stick to my current plan
than to change to the subsidized plan.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> Correct... but how many people are going to buy the phone for $500 and
> still get to pay the same monthly for the service, just to not be in a
> contract? It will never happen. It makes no sense, when you can get the
> phone for $199 and sign a 2 year contract and have the same monthly price.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Aaron D. Osgood wrote:
>> Prior to the release of the Nexus One - Google's input to cellular device
>> manufacturers was limited to providing the Operating System (Android) only.
>> With the Nexus One, Google designed the device completely and hired HTC to
>> build it to Google Specifications (Much like Apple designed and controls the
>> iPhone but subs out the actual manufacturing). The initial Nexus One is a
>> GSM device (meaning it will work on TMobile or ATT in the US) but a CDMA
>> version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint). Google is attempting
>> to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly without
>> tying the buyer to a specific carrier - although some carrier's may choose
>> to subsidize the device if you contract with them).
>>
>> Aaron D. Osgood
>>
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>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Hardy
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:37 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>
>> Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
>> website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
>> interesting though.
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
>>
>>> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
>>> Google :)
>>>
>>> The Nexus One Phone :
>>> http://www.google.com/phone
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting that.

VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.

On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Robert West
I'll stick with my Motorola DynaTAC.  It does everything I need including
subbing as a wheel chock if needed.

Bob-



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Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Correct... but how many people are going to buy the phone for $500 and 
still get to pay the same monthly for the service, just to not be in a 
contract? It will never happen. It makes no sense, when you can get the 
phone for $199 and sign a 2 year contract and have the same monthly price.

Travis
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Aaron D. Osgood wrote:
> Prior to the release of the Nexus One - Google's input to cellular device
> manufacturers was limited to providing the Operating System (Android) only.
> With the Nexus One, Google designed the device completely and hired HTC to
> build it to Google Specifications (Much like Apple designed and controls the
> iPhone but subs out the actual manufacturing). The initial Nexus One is a
> GSM device (meaning it will work on TMobile or ATT in the US) but a CDMA
> version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint). Google is attempting
> to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly without
> tying the buyer to a specific carrier - although some carrier's may choose
> to subsidize the device if you contract with them).
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>
> Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
> website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
> interesting though. 
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
>   
>> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
>> Google :)
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Prior to the release of the Nexus One - Google's input to cellular device
manufacturers was limited to providing the Operating System (Android) only.
With the Nexus One, Google designed the device completely and hired HTC to
build it to Google Specifications (Much like Apple designed and controls the
iPhone but subs out the actual manufacturing). The initial Nexus One is a
GSM device (meaning it will work on TMobile or ATT in the US) but a CDMA
version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint). Google is attempting
to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly without
tying the buyer to a specific carrier - although some carrier's may choose
to subsidize the device if you contract with them).

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:37 PM
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Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
interesting though. 

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
> Google :)
> 
> The Nexus One Phone :
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
The new HTC has a 1ghz clocked CPU.

AFAIK Google is not making any hardware.

On 1/6/10, Matt Hardy  wrote:
> Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
> website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
> interesting though.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
>> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
>> Google :)
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>> The Nexus One Phone :
>> http://www.google.com/phone
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Matt Hardy
Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
interesting though. 

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
> Google :)
> 
> The Nexus One Phone :
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Randy Cosby
I got the Samsung moment on Sprint.  Love it.


On 1/6/2010 5:26 PM, Matt Hardy wrote:
> There are quite a few Android based devices :
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
>
> I think I even saw a netbook yesterday that came preloaded with Android
> and XP setup in a dual-boot configuration.
>
> I had the G1 on TMobile, now have the HTC Hero. I've been happy with
> both, but now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
> Google :)
>
> The Nexus One Phone :
> http://www.google.com/phone
>
> -Matt
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:04 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
>> of Google's phones at this point?
>>
>> On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgood  wrote:
>>  
>>> The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
>>> device. There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is
>>> one soon to be released for iDEN networks as well
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Josh Luthman
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>>
>>> Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.
>>>
>>> //corrections
>>>
>>> On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
>>>> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> ccrum wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>>>>> without "jailbreaking".
>>>>>
>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
>>>>>> gadget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>>>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
>>>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Matt Hardy
There are quite a few Android based devices :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices

I think I even saw a netbook yesterday that came preloaded with Android
and XP setup in a dual-boot configuration.

I had the G1 on TMobile, now have the HTC Hero. I've been happy with
both, but now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
Google :)

The Nexus One Phone :
http://www.google.com/phone

-Matt

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:04 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
> of Google's phones at this point?
> 
> On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgood  wrote:
> > The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
> > device. There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is
> > one soon to be released for iDEN networks as well
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Josh Luthman 
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
> >
> > Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.
> >
> > //corrections
> >
> > On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
> >> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> Microserv
> >>
> >> ccrum wrote:
> >>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
> >>> without "jailbreaking".
> >>>
> >>> Cameron
> >>>
> >>> Jack Unger wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
> >>>> gadget.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
> >>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
> >>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Barnes
Does the new Droids work with MSExchange and sync with it?

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:43 PM
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Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps 
without "jailbreaking".

Cameron

Jack Unger wrote:
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> consumer gadget.
>
> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
of Google's phones at this point?

On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgood  wrote:
> The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
> device. There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is
> one soon to be released for iDEN networks as well
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
> Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.
>
> //corrections
>
> On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
>> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> ccrum wrote:
>>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>>> without "jailbreaking".
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
>>>> gadget.
>>>>
>>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the device. 
There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is one soon 
to be released for iDEN networks as well

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30 
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Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.

//corrections

On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
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> Travis
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> ccrum wrote:
>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>> without "jailbreaking".
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
>>> gadget.
>>>
>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>
>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.

//corrections

On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> ccrum wrote:
>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>> without "jailbreaking".
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
>>> gadget.
>>>
>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Travis Johnson
The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6 
months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).

Travis
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ccrum wrote:
> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps 
> without "jailbreaking".
>
> Cameron
>
> Jack Unger wrote:
>   
>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
>> gadget.
>>
>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread ccrum
Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps 
without "jailbreaking".

Cameron

Jack Unger wrote:
> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
> gadget.
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> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
That's great!!!

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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:

> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
> gadget.
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> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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[WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Jack Unger
Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
gadget.

If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !




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