Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Dennis Burgess]

Still here ☺


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Of Tom Fadgen
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping

found in my spam folder

Tom Fadgen

On Monday 04/09/2017 at 11:01 am, Tom Fadgen wrote:
Never received original Ping, maybe lost in flood


On Monday 04/09/2017 at 10:49 am, Adair Winter wrote:
Pong

On Sep 4, 2017 12:24 PM, "Marco Coelho" 
<coelh...@gmail.com<mailto:coelh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is anyone out there?


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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Tom Fadgen]

found in my spam folder

Tom Fadgen


On Monday 04/09/2017 at 11:01 am, Tom Fadgen  wrote:



Never received original Ping, maybe lost in flood



On Monday 04/09/2017 at 10:49 am, Adair Winter  wrote:


Pong

On Sep 4, 2017 12:24 PM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:



Is anyone out there?

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[Tom Fadgen]

Never received original Ping, maybe lost in flood



On Monday 04/09/2017 at 10:49 am, Adair Winter  wrote:


Pong

On Sep 4, 2017 12:24 PM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:



Is anyone out there?

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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Josh Luthman]

Pong

Josh Luthman
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On Sep 4, 2017 1:24 PM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:

Is anyone out there?


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[Adair Winter]

Pong

On Sep 4, 2017 12:24 PM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:

Is anyone out there?


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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Brian Young]

Happy Labor Day.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 edge.


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Date: 9/4/17 12:24 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: [WISPA] Ping

Is anyone out there?


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Is anyone out there?


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Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?

[Christopher Erickson]

Another vote for PingPlotter Pro.
 


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Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?


Pingplotter pro

On Jan 19, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:



Advanced ping looks like a winner. Up/down monitoring and bandwidth
monitoring only goes so far to know whats going on. Smokeping doesn't scale
really well 


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Tim Way <t...@way.vg> wrote:



Are you able to provide any background as to what your goal is? What are you
looking to accomplish?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
wrote:


I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
time. Any alternatives or suggestions?

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Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?

[DW]

I think "The Dude" is configurable to do that, and it's free from Mikrotik.

http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude

David Waters
WireTower.Net

On 1/18/2017 9:35 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:
> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
> Any alternatives or suggestions?
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Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?

[Eric Tykwinski]

As an aside on PRTG...  I was wondering if anyone knows of a VoIP dialer that 
you could use for alerts.
I was looking at some PowerShell scripts before, but haven't really gotten 
around to getting it up and running.

Sincerely,

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Of Chadwick Wachs
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 8:33 AM
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Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?

[Ryan Goldberg]

Pingplotter pro

On Jan 19, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Jon Langeler 
> wrote:

Advanced ping looks like a winner. Up/down monitoring and bandwidth monitoring 
only goes so far to know whats going on. Smokeping doesn't scale really well

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Tim Way > wrote:

Are you able to provide any background as to what your goal is? What are you 
looking to accomplish?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Jon Langeler 
> wrote:
I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
Any alternatives or suggestions?

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Re: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?

[Chadwick Wachs]

+1 for PRTG. Can't live without it.


On Jan 20, 2017 6:25 AM, "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com> wrote:

> PRTG?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> Subject: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?
> From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
> Date: 1/18/17 6:35 pm
> To: a...@afmug.com
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[John Thomas]

PRTG?
 
- Original Message - Subject: [WISPA] Ping monitoring?
From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
Date: 1/18/17 6:35 pm
To: a...@afmug.com

I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
Any alternatives or suggestions? 
 
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[Jon Langeler]

Advanced ping looks like a winner. Up/down monitoring and bandwidth monitoring 
only goes so far to know whats going on. Smokeping doesn't scale really well 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Tim Way  wrote:
> 
> Are you able to provide any background as to what your goal is? What are you 
> looking to accomplish?
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Jon Langeler  
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Are you able to provide any background as to what your goal is? What are
you looking to accomplish?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Jon Langeler 
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> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
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I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
Any alternatives or suggestions? 

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[WISPA] ping

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Re: [WISPA] ping

[Dennis Burgess]

pong

 



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Re: [WISPA] ping

[DJ Anderson]

Good Morning

DJ Anderson
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[WISPA] Ping

[Victoria Proffer]

Is this making it to the list?

 

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Josh Luthman]

Yes

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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Chuck Hogg]

yes?

Regards,
Chuck


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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Blake Bowers]

Nope.  Never saw it.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

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From: Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:22 AM
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 Is this making it to the list?



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[Spann, Chip]

yes

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Subject: [WISPA] Ping

Is this making it to the list?

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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Josh Luthman]

Mindfreak.

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote:
 Nope.  Never saw it.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message -
 From: Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:22 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Ping


 Is this making it to the list?



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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[John Scrivner]

Pong

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[WISPA] PING

[Chuck Profito]

just checking




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[Josh Luthman]

response in 385 ms.

I'm on Verizon.

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 just checking




 
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[RickG]

Better than being on meth ;)

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 response in 385 ms.

 I'm on Verizon.

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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Glenn Kelley]

funny - thanks Jack ;-)   
gotta love those late night typo's 

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On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Jack Unger wrote:

 Yes but it's hard-are than it looks. 
 
 
 On 1/10/2011 9:56 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
 
 Naw... You can fix anything with software...
 
 On 1/10/2011 11:34 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
 
 Bob - I miss your humor being next door :-) 
 
 
 How many programers dose it take to change a light bulb?
 
 None – It’s a hardare problem 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Nope.  Didn’t get it.  Adjust your tri-speck angular SSL packet filter and 
 try it again.
  
  
  
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[WISPA] Ping

[Marco Coelho]

I'm getting bounces on my posts.  Test.



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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Robert West]

Nope.  Didn't get it.  Adjust your tri-speck angular SSL packet filter and
try it again.

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:53 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Ping

 

I'm getting bounces on my posts.  Test.



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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Blair Davis]

  
  
Naw... You can fix anything with software...

On 1/10/2011 11:34 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
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  being next door :-)
  
  
  
  
  How many programers dose it take to change a light bulb?

  
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On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Robert West wrote:


  

  Nope.
  Didnt get it. Adjust your tri-speck angular SSL
  packet filter and try it again.
  
  
  
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Behalf OfMarco
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  Subject:[WISPA]
  Ping
  
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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Jack Unger]

  
  
Yes but it's hard-are than it looks. 


On 1/10/2011 9:56 PM, Blair Davis wrote:

  
  Naw... You can fix anything with software...
  
  On 1/10/2011 11:34 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote:
  Bob - I miss your humor
being next door :-)




How many programers dose it take to change a light bulb?
  

None  Its a hardare problem












  

  On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Robert West wrote:
  
  

  
Nope.

Didnt get it. Adjust your tri-speck angular
SSL packet filter and try it again.



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Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Brian Webster]

I'd like to chime in as one who does professional RF engineering for a
living. I have worked with Roger for the last 10 years helping to improve
radio mobile. There are so many features that the program supports now
compared to when I started it just boggles the mind. That being said, it
should be put in to perspective that commercial software packages for RF
engineering cost from $15,000 to $70,000 dollars and do not perform any
better than Radio Mobile. As a professional RF Engineer who has had to learn
these commercial tools, I can tell you it takes a huge amount of time to
learn any RF propagation software package and that there are no shortcuts or
dummies guides. There is no substitute for time and persistence in learning
any RF software package. Much of this will be spent in trial an error and
reading the archives and tutorials. There are no shortcuts, mouse over or
quick start guides. If RF design was as easy as an idiot proof software
package, then anyone with a mouse could do it, there would be no need for
expertise in the field. Spend the time to read the archives in the yahoo
group and the tutorials. Impatience will not speed up anything and whining
about a set of documentation or quick tools tips will not make you and RF
design expert. Just because a person can point and click does not mean you
can generate RF coverage maps. Some knowledge of RF theory helps so that one
may understand the methods and settings within a program. If you want hand
holding, cough up the 35 grand or so to purchase a commercial software
package. I'm sure that is easier than reading a little bit... If I seem
sarcastic it is because I really get annoyed at people who complain about a
free lunch...This software package is free, quit complaining to the author
about your lack of ambition to read the many manuals available on line. For
those of us who understand the value of this free product, we dislike those
who would say things to possibly discourage the author who donates his time
and effort for free giving a product that would otherwise cost in the
thousands of dollars..those who think they are entitled just because they
sit behind a keyboard and can complain, need a reality check. If you don't
like the product that you paid nothing for.simply move on and be quiet. This
was never meant to be a for profit program...accept it for what it is and be
thankful rather than complain. Any other options are far worse...

 



Brian

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

 

At 7/21/2010 12:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote:



If you have, join the Yahoo RM group.  Lots of help there.  Plus links to at
least 2 tutorials.


I've been there, and it helps.  But it is not a substitute for a good
collection of documentation.  There's useful stuff on Roger's web site too,
but it isn't always easy to figure out certain things, like when to use
which mode to use for a network (spot, accidental, broadcast...) and what
settings make the most sense.  I use MapInfo a lot and it has thick manuals,
the unabridged one being PDF only.  Yes, it's expensive commercial software.
I'm spoiled.  ;-)  I suppose a wiki might be a way for the community to
collect its thoughts.

I did see some interesting discussions on the Yahoo group about the nodes,
and about the land cover.  I roughly doubled the forest loss numbers, from
Roger's default.  This still might not be adequate, though, since it makes
it seem *possible* to blast 5.8 GHz through the woods.  Is 180 a good
setting for most forests?




Roger does this for a living and his employer sells a very nice commercial
package.  They have been nice enough to allow him to to RM for free, so we
get a super program at no cost.  This also means that Open Source is out, as
I am sure the source is too similar to their commercial package.  If you
want the pay version, I am sure an e-mail to him would get you company
contact information.


What is the commercial product?  He certainly hides any mention of it.  If
it's reasonable, I might look.  I remember seeing an add-on for MapInfo,
though.  The price was roughly similar to the price of the local calling
area database license.  My car cost less, new.

SPLAT looks to be a somewhat similar open source program, but much more
limited in scope and not nearly as well updated.  This is complicated stuff,
I know. About 3/4 of the confusion might be solved by having a mouse-over
help function, where you could right-click on a box and pop up a tutorial
on what the values mean and how to set them. That could be an interesting
volunteer project.  Of course Roger's primary market is 2 meter repeaters,
so the parameters we use in the WISP bands are a bit different...




...The only time I would see a need for antenna patterns is if you have a
fixed-base AP and mobile CPE.  If both are fixed-base, I am

Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Fred Goldstein]

] 
On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein

Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

At 7/21/2010 12:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

If you have, join the Yahoo RM group.  Lots of help there.  Plus 
links to at least 2 tutorials.


I've been there, and it helps.  But it is not a substitute for a 
good collection of documentation.  There's useful stuff on Roger's 
web site too, but it isn't always easy to figure out certain things, 
like when to use which mode to use for a network (spot, accidental, 
broadcast...) and what settings make the most sense.  I use MapInfo 
a lot and it has thick manuals, the unabridged one being PDF 
only.  Yes, it's expensive commercial software.  I'm 
spoiled.  ;-)  I suppose a wiki might be a way for the community to 
collect its thoughts.


I did see some interesting discussions on the Yahoo group about the 
nodes, and about the land cover.  I roughly doubled the forest loss 
numbers, from Roger's default.  This still might not be adequate, 
though, since it makes it seem *possible* to blast 5.8 GHz through 
the woods.  Is 180 a good setting for most forests?



Roger does this for a living and his employer sells a very nice 
commercial package.  They have been nice enough to allow him to to 
RM for free, so we get a super program at no cost.  This also means 
that Open Source is out, as I am sure the source is too similar to 
their commercial package.  If you want the pay version, I am sure an 
e-mail to him would get you company contact information.


What is the commercial product?  He certainly hides any mention of 
it.  If it's reasonable, I might look.  I remember seeing an add-on 
for MapInfo, though.  The price was roughly similar to the price of 
the local calling area database license.  My car cost less, new.


SPLAT looks to be a somewhat similar open source program, but much 
more limited in scope and not nearly as well updated.  This is 
complicated stuff, I know. About 3/4 of the confusion might be 
solved by having a mouse-over help function, where you could 
right-click on a box and pop up a tutorial on what the values mean 
and how to set them. That could be an interesting volunteer 
project.  Of course Roger's primary market is 2 meter repeaters, so 
the parameters we use in the WISP bands are a bit different...



...The only time I would see a need for antenna patterns is if you 
have a fixed-base AP and mobile CPE.  If both are fixed-base, I am 
not sure what the patterns will gain you.  I do the same thing; I 
have a 5.8 network, a 2.4 network and a 900 network.  Most of my 
POPs are setup with 3 120* sectors, so all POPs are setup with an 
omni of the same gain as the sector antenna.  In my experience so 
far, the results are fairly accurate when there is clear 
line-of-sight.  If there are a significant number of trees in the 
path, it obviously is not so good.  I suppose if you have 2 90* 
sectors trying to cover 360* you would want patterns to find the 
nulls and edges, but if you have antennas for full coverage, the 
pattern probably is not so important.  For point to point links, 
antenna pattern does not matter , assuming you are planning to aim 
the antennas directly at each other as that is the assumption RM makes.


Not all of the sectors need full-circle coverage, so I was thinking 
about using the model to see how it looked with partial coverage on 
some poles.  This would save radios and antennas... In fact, with 
three sector radios and two backhaul radios (not to mention needing 
three backhaul radio degrees at mesh junctions), that exceeds the 
four-slot maximum of any one Routerboard, right?  So do you often 
put back-to-back radios in one box?


I think the only way to do sectors in RM is to treat them as 
separate radios,  So if Unit 10 was three sectors, it might end up 
as say Units 10, 91, and 92, in the access network, right?



The Yahoo group has also had discussions about exports and 
imports.  There are several things you can do.  Again, check out the tutorials.


I would have to disagree about the need for many 
improvements.  Granted, I have been using it for over 5 years, but I 
find everything to be where expected and do what it should.  Roger 
is open to suggestion, though.  Let him know what you would like to see.


I don't want to disparage Roger and his great work; it's just little 
things. I just hate drop-downs, which RM's UI makes me use too 
often, especially for selecting radios. But also the fact that 
adding a radio requires going to both the unit properties and then 
the network properties is counter-intuitive and a bit clumsy.  These 
sorts of things aren't show-stoppers, just places where it helps 
reduce one's sanity just a bit more.  Which can be in short supply...



Fred Goldstein wrote:

At 7/21/2010 11:41 AM, MarlonS wrote:

Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.


It's a great tool, but boy is it frustrating!  Roger has done a 
wonderful

Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Scott Reed]

 paid nothing 
for...simply move on and be quiet. This was never meant to be a for 
profit program.accept it for what it is and be thankful rather 
than complain. Any other options are far worse.
 



Brian
 
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Fred Goldstein

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:25 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.
 
At 7/21/2010 12:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote:


If you have, join the Yahoo RM group.  Lots of help there.  Plus 
links to at least 2 tutorials.


I've been there, and it helps.  But it is not a substitute for a good 
collection of documentation.  There's useful stuff on Roger's web 
site too, but it isn't always easy to figure out certain things, like 
when to use which mode to use for a network (spot, accidental, 
broadcast...) and what settings make the most sense.  I use MapInfo a 
lot and it has thick manuals, the unabridged one being PDF only.  
Yes, it's expensive commercial software.  I'm spoiled.  ;-)  I 
suppose a wiki might be a way for the community to collect its thoughts.


I did see some interesting discussions on the Yahoo group about the 
nodes, and about the land cover.  I roughly doubled the forest loss 
numbers, from Roger's default.  This still might not be adequate, 
though, since it makes it seem *possible* to blast 5.8 GHz through 
the woods.  Is 180 a good setting for most forests?



Roger does this for a living and his employer sells a very nice 
commercial package.  They have been nice enough to allow him to to RM 
for free, so we get a super program at no cost.  This also means that 
Open Source is out, as I am sure the source is too similar to their 
commercial package.  If you want the pay version, I am sure an e-mail 
to him would get you company contact information.


What is the commercial product?  He certainly hides any mention of 
it.  If it's reasonable, I might look.  I remember seeing an add-on 
for MapInfo, though.  The price was roughly similar to the price of 
the local calling area database license.  My car cost less, new.


SPLAT looks to be a somewhat similar open source program, but much 
more limited in scope and not nearly as well updated.  This is 
complicated stuff, I know. About 3/4 of the confusion might be solved 
by having a mouse-over help function, where you could right-click 
on a box and pop up a tutorial on what the values mean and how to set 
them. That could be an interesting volunteer project.  Of course 
Roger's primary market is 2 meter repeaters, so the parameters we use 
in the WISP bands are a bit different...



...The only time I would see a need for antenna patterns is if you 
have a fixed-base AP and mobile CPE.  If both are fixed-base, I am 
not sure what the patterns will gain you.  I do the same thing; I 
have a 5.8 network, a 2.4 network and a 900 network.  Most of my POPs 
are setup with 3 120* sectors, so all POPs are setup with an omni of 
the same gain as the sector antenna.  In my experience so far, the 
results are fairly accurate when there is clear line-of-sight.  If 
there are a significant number of trees in the path, it obviously is 
not so good.  I suppose if you have 2 90* sectors trying to cover 
360* you would want patterns to find the nulls and edges, but if you 
have antennas for full coverage, the pattern probably is not so 
important.  For point to point links, antenna pattern does not matter 
, assuming you are planning to aim the antennas directly at each 
other as that is the assumption RM makes.


Not all of the sectors need full-circle coverage, so I was thinking 
about using the model to see how it looked with partial coverage on 
some poles.  This would save radios and antennas... In fact, with 
three sector radios and two backhaul radios (not to mention needing 
three backhaul radio degrees at mesh junctions), that exceeds the 
four-slot maximum of any one Routerboard, right?  So do you often put 
back-to-back radios in one box?


I think the only way to do sectors in RM is to treat them as separate 
radios,  So if Unit 10 was three sectors, it might end up as say 
Units 10, 91, and 92, in the access network, right?



The Yahoo group has also had discussions about exports and imports.  
There are several things you can do.  Again, check out the tutorials.


I would have to disagree about the need for many improvements.  
Granted, I have been using it for over 5 years, but I find everything 
to be where expected and do what it should.  Roger is open to 
suggestion, though.  Let him know what you would like to see.


I don't want to disparage Roger and his great work; it's just little 
things. I just hate drop-downs, which RM's UI makes me use too often, 
especially for selecting radios. But also the fact that adding a 
radio requires going to both the unit properties and then the network 
properties is counter-intuitive and a bit clumsy.  These sorts of 
things aren't

Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Fred Goldstein]

 of us who understand the value of 
this free product, we dislike those who would say things to 
possibly discourage the author who donates his time and effort for 
free giving a product that would otherwise cost in the thousands 
of dollars….those who think they are entitled just because they 
sit behind a keyboard and can complain, need a reality check. If 
you don't like the product that you paid nothing for…simply move 
on and be quiet. This was never meant to be a for profit 
program…..accept it for what it is and be thankful rather than 
complain. Any other options are far worse………




Brian

From: 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org [ 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein

Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

At 7/21/2010 12:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

If you have, join the Yahoo RM group.  Lots of help there.  Plus 
links to at least 2 tutorials.


I've been there, and it helps.  But it is not a substitute for a 
good collection of documentation.  There's useful stuff on Roger's 
web site too, but it isn't always easy to figure out certain 
things, like when to use which mode to use for a network (spot, 
accidental, broadcast...) and what settings make the most 
sense.  I use MapInfo a lot and it has thick manuals, the 
unabridged one being PDF only.  Yes, it's expensive commercial 
software.  I'm spoiled.  ;-)  I suppose a wiki might be a way for 
the community to collect its thoughts.


I did see some interesting discussions on the Yahoo group about 
the nodes, and about the land cover.  I roughly doubled the forest 
loss numbers, from Roger's default.  This still might not be 
adequate, though, since it makes it seem *possible* to blast 5.8 
GHz through the woods.  Is 180 a good setting for most forests?



Roger does this for a living and his employer sells a very nice 
commercial package.  They have been nice enough to allow him to to 
RM for free, so we get a super program at no cost.  This also 
means that Open Source is out, as I am sure the source is too 
similar to their commercial package.  If you want the pay version, 
I am sure an e-mail to him would get you company contact information.


What is the commercial product?  He certainly hides any mention of 
it.  If it's reasonable, I might look.  I remember seeing an 
add-on for MapInfo, though.  The price was roughly similar to the 
price of the local calling area database license.  My car cost less, new.


SPLAT looks to be a somewhat similar open source program, but much 
more limited in scope and not nearly as well updated.  This is 
complicated stuff, I know. About 3/4 of the confusion might be 
solved by having a mouse-over help function, where you could 
right-click on a box and pop up a tutorial on what the values mean 
and how to set them. That could be an interesting volunteer 
project.  Of course Roger's primary market is 2 meter repeaters, 
so the parameters we use in the WISP bands are a bit different...



...The only time I would see a need for antenna patterns is if you 
have a fixed-base AP and mobile CPE.  If both are fixed-base, I am 
not sure what the patterns will gain you.  I do the same thing; I 
have a 5.8 network, a 2.4 network and a 900 network.  Most of my 
POPs are setup with 3 120* sectors, so all POPs are setup with an 
omni of the same gain as the sector antenna.  In my experience so 
far, the results are fairly accurate when there is clear 
line-of-sight.  If there are a significant number of trees in the 
path, it obviously is not so good.  I suppose if you have 2 90* 
sectors trying to cover 360* you would want patterns to find the 
nulls and edges, but if you have antennas for full coverage, the 
pattern probably is not so important.  For point to point links, 
antenna pattern does not matter , assuming you are planning to aim 
the antennas directly at each other as that is the assumption RM makes.


Not all of the sectors need full-circle coverage, so I was 
thinking about using the model to see how it looked with partial 
coverage on some poles.  This would save radios and antennas... In 
fact, with three sector radios and two backhaul radios (not to 
mention needing three backhaul radio degrees at mesh junctions), 
that exceeds the four-slot maximum of any one Routerboard, 
right?  So do you often put back-to-back radios in one box?


I think the only way to do sectors in RM is to treat them as 
separate radios,  So if Unit 10 was three sectors, it might end up 
as say Units 10, 91, and 92, in the access network, right?



The Yahoo group has also had discussions about exports and 
imports.  There are several things you can do.  Again, check out the tutorials.


I would have to disagree about the need for many 
improvements.  Granted, I have been using it for over 5 years, but 
I find everything to be where expected and do what it 
should.  Roger is open to suggestion, though

Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Brian Webster]

Fred,

Your points are understood and I should not have sent that
email at 2AM after spending time with fellow WISP's here at the show in the
hotel bar J That being said, to be able to zoom in and out like a consumer
level mapping program and have everything redraw on the fly is massively
computational. The terrain data has to be drawn as well as reloaded in the
map memory. The map is not what most people consider a visual map. That is
considered a picture in the program while the map is the raw terrain data
used for the propagation computations. Redrawing and rescaling all of that
would also require a repropagation. As far as losing any volatile layers,
one should not draw them and leave them volatile but save in a new picture
for comparison purposes or keep them in the same picture. For items like the
visible units just hit the redraw networks button. To redraw the map (and
resulting picture representation of the terrain) at a zoomed in level for
examining the terrain detail you can draw a box around the area of interest
and use the edit fit map to selection feature. Just change the map
resolution to something that fills your screen rather than the number of
pixels in the selection area. The only other way to do the on the fly
zooming is to export your plot to Google Earth and do it there. The terrain
data in that program is not the 10 meter resolution but rather 30 meter and
will at least give you the general idea of the topology.



 



Brian

 

From: Fred Goldstein [mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:39 AM
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

 

Brian,

Please don't misunderstand me.  I am very appreciative of the work done on
RadioMobile and the fact that it's free!  And, having worked with RF for a
long time, I'm well aware of how complex the issues are.  Which is why
searching a Yahoo group doesn't strike me as an ideal way to learn the
program.

Some of what concerns me about RM are my general concerns with most free
software, and this is especially true for Linux stuff, where free as in
speech is a religious argument that often doesn't result in this much of a
product.  The RF core of the RM package is wonderful.  I can just see a lot
of ways in which the whole thing could be even nicer if the UI were updated.
Decisions that got the job done up front may not be ideal in the long term.
(You can see a lot of that in how TCP/IP itself was written.)  Commercial
vendors generally work on these issues -- somebody is paid to do the boring
crap -- because it helps them sell. 

So if I am making suggestions, it is in the spirit of constructive
criticism, not putting down anyone's efforts.  As a user, I can see ways
that it could be better.  I am not a coder and don't know how much work any
such changes would be to implement. 

But -- as a user -- wouldn't it be nice if it had a zoom function, for
instance, so you could blow up a detail of a combined-cartestion coverage
map or show-networks view without having to redraw the whole thing?  This
might be practical if the computations were done on SRTM points (to make the
underlying map) but then to display it, those results stayed put while you
moved around and rescaled your view of it.  Lots of picture-manipulating
programs do this.  Heck, I'd pay to have it, though I guess Roger's
employment situation makes it impossible to sell a premium version. 

I hate how many Linux coders, when confronted with a problem in the code,
whine, you have the sources, luser, fix it.  Mozilla, at least, pays
rewards for some bugs, and it's constantly improving (argh, another
important update this morning!).  Commercial software companies pay for
ideas to improve the product.  I'm not whining; I just spend a lot of time
with RM (I've been using it for several years) and just have ideas how it
could be even better.  As no doubt do others.  ;-)  I'm sorry if you think
I'm sounding unappreciative of the work that went in to it.

At 7/22/2010 02:00 AM, Brian Webster wrote:




I'd like to chime in as one who does professional RF engineering for a
living. I have worked with Roger for the last 10 years helping to improve
radio mobile. There are so many features that the program supports now
compared to when I started it just boggles the mind. That being said, it
should be put in to perspective that commercial software packages for RF
engineering cost from $15,000 to $70,000 dollars and do not perform any
better than Radio Mobile. As a professional RF Engineer who has had to learn
these commercial tools, I can tell you it takes a huge amount of time to
learn any RF propagation software package and that there are no shortcuts or
dummies guides. There is no substitute for time and persistence in learning
any RF software package. Much of this will be spent in trial an error and
reading the archives and tutorials. There are no shortcuts, mouse over or
quick

Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Justin Wilson]

Very true.  Very steep learning curve that is easily forgotten.   Go through
the tutorials several times.  The hardest part I found was getting the
correct clutter data.
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:41:46 -0700
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping ---  Radio Mobile Hates Me.

Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.
 
grin
marlon
 
  
 - Original Message -
  
 From:  Robert West mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com
  
 To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  
 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:38 PM
  
 Subject: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile  Hates Me.
  
 
  
  
 
 Ping.
  
  
  
 (Had to)
  
  
  
  
  
 Bob-
  
  
  
 Still fighting the animal that is Radio Mobile.
  
  
  
 Why does Radio mobile Hate Me?
  
  
  
 I should have been a HAM.  Maybe it¹s just bad  KarmaŠŠ..
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.

grin
marlon

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:38 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.


  Ping.

   

  (Had to)

   

   

  Bob-

   

  Still fighting the animal that is Radio Mobile. 

   

  Why does Radio mobile Hate Me?

   

  I should have been a HAM.  Maybe it's just bad Karma

   

   



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Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Fred Goldstein]

At 7/21/2010 11:41 AM, MarlonS wrote:

Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.



It's a great tool, but boy is it frustrating!  Roger has done a 
wonderful thing by putting this out there for free and improving it 
as he has.  But there are so many things that could be done to 
improve it, especially the clumsy user interface.  If it were an open 
source project, then more people could contribute to the effort.  If 
he had a premium payware version, then he'd have incentive to at 
least prettify the pay version.


Documentation wouldn't hurt either...

My current project has set up three networks using the same batch 
of nodes.  One is 5.8 GHz backhaul. One is 900 MHz backhaul, for 
heavy-forest paths.  One is 5.8 GHz access.  When it does the show 
networks, it doesn't seem to find the best path, but it's not 
terribly predictable as to which common network it's using.  So I 
end up having to do path-by-path comparisons anyway.


My next chore is to add antenna patterns.  I think this means taking 
each node and turning it into two or three nodes, if it has two or 
three separate sectors.  I can save network as a CSV, but that 
seems to only save the node locations.  Copying network parameters 
between projects seems impossible. :=(



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marlon

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To: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgWISPA General List
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

Ping.



(Had to)





Bob-



Still fighting the animal that is Radio Mobile.



Why does Radio mobile Hate Me?



I should have been a HAM.  Maybe it's just bad Karma……..






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Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Robert West]

Thus is hates me.

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

 

Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.

 

grin

marlon

 

- Original Message - 

From: Robert West mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com  

To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:38 PM

Subject: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

 

Ping.

 

(Had to)

 

 

Bob-

 

Still fighting the animal that is Radio Mobile. 

 

Why does Radio mobile Hate Me?

 

I should have been a HAM.  Maybe it's just bad Karma

 

 


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Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Scott Reed]

If you have, join the Yahoo RM group.  Lots of help there.  Plus links 
to at least 2 tutorials.
Roger does this for a living and his employer sells a very nice 
commercial package.  They have been nice enough to allow him to to RM 
for free, so we get a super program at no cost.  This also means that 
Open Source is out, as I am sure the source is too similar to their 
commercial package.  If you want the pay version, I am sure an e-mail to 
him would get you company contact information.


There are at least 2 users that have done documentation and step-by-step 
tutorials.  Again, available from the Yahoo group.


If you just do the radio link function, it does not choose the best 
network, it chooses the first network that both end-points are a member 
of.  There is a tutorial for best path analysis and it works fairly well.


The only time I would see a need for antenna patterns is if you have a 
fixed-base AP and mobile CPE.  If both are fixed-base, I am not sure 
what the patterns will gain you.  I do the same thing; I have a 5.8 
network, a 2.4 network and a 900 network.  Most of my POPs are setup 
with 3 120* sectors, so all POPs are setup with an omni of the same gain 
as the sector antenna.  In my experience so far, the results are fairly 
accurate when there is clear line-of-sight.  If there are a significant 
number of trees in the path, it obviously is not so good.  I suppose if 
you have 2 90* sectors trying to cover 360* you would want patterns to 
find the nulls and edges, but if you have antennas for full coverage, 
the pattern probably is not so important.  For point to point links, 
antenna pattern does not matter , assuming you are planning to aim the 
antennas directly at each other as that is the assumption RM makes.


The Yahoo group has also had discussions about exports and imports.  
There are several things you can do.  Again, check out the tutorials.


I would have to disagree about the need for many improvements.  Granted, 
I have been using it for over 5 years, but I find everything to be where 
expected and do what it should.  Roger is open to suggestion, though.  
Let him know what you would like to see.


Fred Goldstein wrote:

At 7/21/2010 11:41 AM, MarlonS wrote:

Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.
 


It's a great tool, but boy is it frustrating!  Roger has done a 
wonderful thing by putting this out there for free and improving it as 
he has.  But there are so many things that could be done to improve 
it, especially the clumsy user interface.  If it were an open source 
project, then more people could contribute to the effort.  If he had a 
premium payware version, then he'd have incentive to at least prettify 
the pay version.


Documentation wouldn't hurt either...

My current project has set up three networks using the same batch of 
nodes.  One is 5.8 GHz backhaul. One is 900 MHz backhaul, for 
heavy-forest paths.  One is 5.8 GHz access.  When it does the show 
networks, it doesn't seem to find the best path, but it's not 
terribly predictable as to which common network it's using.  So I 
end up having to do path-by-path comparisons anyway.


My next chore is to add antenna patterns.  I think this means taking 
each node and turning it into two or three nodes, if it has two or 
three separate sectors.  I can save network as a CSV, but that seems 
to only save the node locations.  Copying network parameters between 
projects seems impossible. :=(



grin
marlon
 


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From: Robert West mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

Ping.

 


(Had to)

 

 


Bob-

 


Still fighting the animal that is Radio Mobile.

 


Why does Radio mobile Hate Me?

 


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Re: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.

[Fred Goldstein]

 it, especially the clumsy user interface.  If it were an 
open source project, then more people could contribute to the 
effort.  If he had a premium payware version, then he'd have 
incentive to at least prettify the pay version.


Documentation wouldn't hurt either...

My current project has set up three networks using the same batch 
of nodes.  One is 5.8 GHz backhaul. One is 900 MHz backhaul, for 
heavy-forest paths.  One is 5.8 GHz access.  When it does the show 
networks, it doesn't seem to find the best path, but it's not 
terribly predictable as to which common network it's using.  So I 
end up having to do path-by-path comparisons anyway.


My next chore is to add antenna patterns.  I think this means 
taking each node and turning it into two or three nodes, if it has 
two or three separate sectors.  I can save network as a CSV, but 
that seems to only save the node locations.  Copying network 
parameters between projects seems impossible. :=(



grin
marlon

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Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Ping --- Radio Mobile Hates Me.
Ping.

(Had to)


Bob-

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[Robert West]

Ping.

 

(Had to)

 

 

Bob-

 

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Why does Radio mobile Hate Me?

 

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Are my messages getting through?




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Re: [WISPA] Ping message

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Yes

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Re: [WISPA] Ping message

[Rick Herrmann]

no

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Re: [WISPA] Ping message

[Faisal Imtiaz]

No.!

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Re: [WISPA] Ping message

[Robert West]

No

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[Cliff Leboeuf]

4 no's and 1 yes... looks like you have some packet loss there ;)

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Change channels.  Wiggle the antenna.

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Yes this one is too.

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Re: [WISPA] Ping list

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Sorry
Lights are ON .. but no-one is at Home.

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Re: [WISPA] Ping message

[Josh Luthman]

This worked too

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Re: [WISPA] Ping list

[Pat Nix]

Sorry, I was suffering from a barracuda beta release bug

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Re: [WISPA] Ping list

[Robert West]

Nope

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Re: [WISPA] Ping list

[Jonathan Schmidt]

Sometimes... 

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Re: [WISPA] PING?

[Jeff Broadwick]

Scriv,

Do you have a room number?  We'd like to send something to him.

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Mac is stable. He still has tests to be done. I talked to his wife, Sharon,
a little while ago. Keep Mac and his family in your prayers please. Sharon
says their network is running fine. I told her to let me know if they need
help and we would work to get someone there to help if they need anything. I
am sure we can pull together and help Mac if he needs it.
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 PINGING, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THE LIST SINCE MY POST AT 
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Re: [WISPA] PING?

[John Scrivner]

All I know is that he is in a hospital in Monroe, La. right now and that he
will likely be moving to a different place soon (I do not know where and
Sharon does not either). I should have thought to ask for a room number but
did not. If you learn anything more please let me know.
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 Scriv,

 Do you have a room number?  We'd like to send something to him.

 Jeff

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 Mac is stable. He still has tests to be done. I talked to his wife, Sharon,
 a little while ago. Keep Mac and his family in your prayers please. Sharon
 says their network is running fine. I told her to let me know if they need
 help and we would work to get someone there to help if they need anything.
 I
 am sure we can pull together and help Mac if he needs it.
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PINGING, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THE LIST SINCE MY POST AT 9:46AM.

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Re: [WISPA] PING?

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Mac is stable. He still has tests to be done. I talked to his wife, Sharon,
a little while ago. Keep Mac and his family in your prayers please. Sharon
says their network is running fine. I told her to let me know if they need
help and we would work to get someone there to help if they need anything. I
am sure we can pull together and help Mac if he needs it.
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Re: [WISPA] ping

[Jerry Richardson]

gnip 


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] ping

[David E. Smith]

gnip 


I thought the canonical response was pong.

(Sorry for any delays in email in the last 90 minutes or so, VMware is giving 
me fits and I was tinkering with a guest - specifically, the all of WISPA's 
outbound email goes through here guest.)

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[WISPA] ping

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[WISPA] Ping?

[Larry Yunker]

No messages in 12 hours. Is the list down?

 




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Re: [WISPA] Ping?

[Brian Rohrbacher]

pong

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[WISPA] Ping

[Larry Yunker]

Ping?


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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Ryan Langseth]

Larry Yunker wrote:

Ping?

Pong



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RE: [WISPA] ping

[Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless]

Ding dong! :)

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Ding. Ding

Lol
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry  

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Lol.

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Re: [WISPA] ping

[Mike Hammett]

YAY!


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RE: [WISPA] ping

[Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless]

Lol.

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YAY!


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Re: [WISPA] ping

[lakeland]

Ding. Ding

Lol
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry  

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Lol.

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Re: [WISPA] ping

[Brian Rohrbacher]

yup, things are working.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


ping
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RE: [WISPA] ping utility

[Paul Hendry]

You could also try just pinging the broadcast address for the network. Most
network device will respond and show there IP address. Failing that Super
Scan is a great tool and is handy to see what ports you have open and
therefore help asses any security risks.

Cheers,

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Try this.

http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/

It works well for me and is free.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
 addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any 
 way to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot 
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Re: [WISPA] ping utility - Trango

[Tom DeReggi]

Take note that when ever you reboot a Trango radio it sends out packets from 
the IP that it is configured on.
So if the Trango is connected to a Linux PC/Router, just run TCPDUMP, reboot 
the Radio, and watch for the IP.


If on Windows any packet sniffer will give that info. We use Etherreal.

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Try this.

http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/

It works well for me and is free.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping addresses? 
I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any way to get it?  I 
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[WISPA] ping utility

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any way 
to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot of 
addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?


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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Travis Johnson]

In a DOS window, you can do:

for /L %x in (1,1,254) do @ping 192.168.1.%x -w 100 -n 1 | find Reply from

Travis
Microserv

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any 
way to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot 
of addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?




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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I am dumber than that,  I tried to type that stuff in but no go.  I 
think the IP might be 10.0.2.???  Exactly what should I type?


Travis Johnson wrote:


In a DOS window, you can do:

for /L %x in (1,1,254) do @ping 192.168.1.%x -w 100 -n 1 | find Reply 
from


Travis
Microserv

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any 
way to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot 
of addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?






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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Mark Nash]

They send out an ARP packet if you can plug in locally and do a frame capture.
-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:54:22 
To:Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] ping utility

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any way 
to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot of 
addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?

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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Again.  I am dumber than that.  I've never even heard of a frame 
capture, much less know what it is, how to do it, or what to do it on?  
LOL  :)


Mark Nash wrote:


They send out an ARP packet if you can plug in locally and do a frame capture.
-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:54:22 
To:Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org

Subject: [WISPA] ping utility

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any way 
to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot of 
addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?


 



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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[John Scrivner]

Travis,
This is something I have never seen before. Thanks for this tip. Is 
there any place you know of that can tell us more about the syntax of 
scripts like this so we can all become more knowledgeable about setting 
them up with different criteria? I think this is a very useful tool. I 
have had many situations where I needed to run through a block of 
addresses to see what was in use. This is going to be a nice simple way 
to check this from now on for me.

Thank you,
Scriv


Travis Johnson wrote:


In a DOS window, you can do:

for /L %x in (1,1,254) do @ping 192.168.1.%x -w 100 -n 1 | find Reply 
from


Travis
Microserv

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any 
way to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot 
of addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?





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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Joe Laura]

Brian, Look at lan is free and I use it every day. Its a nice utility.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping utility


 Again.  I am dumber than that.  I've never even heard of a frame
 capture, much less know what it is, how to do it, or what to do it on?
 LOL  :)

 Mark Nash wrote:

 They send out an ARP packet if you can plug in locally and do a frame
capture.
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:54:22
 To:Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] ping utility
 
 Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping
 addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any way
 to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot of
 addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?
 
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Blair Davis]

Try this.

http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/

It works well for me and is free.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any 
way to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot 
of addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?




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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Thanks everyone.  Turns out I had the POE plugged into the switch 
instead of the other black cable that was the one going up the tower.  
When I plugged the LAN side of the POE into the switch I got 2 lights on 
the switch to turn on.  Then I figured out the little loop.  So I dug 
into the nema box a little deeper and found the correct black cable.  
And the radio was at default.


Thanks, All.

Blair Davis wrote:


Try this.

http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/

It works well for me and is free.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any 
way to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot 
of addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?






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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Tim Kerns]

Glad you found your problem, but those of us who are lazy 
http://www.radmin.com/download/index.php


and look for IPScanner windows based program which will scan a subnet.


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping utility


Thanks everyone.  Turns out I had the POE plugged into the switch instead 
of the other black cable that was the one going up the tower.  When I 
plugged the LAN side of the POE into the switch I got 2 lights on the 
switch to turn on.  Then I figured out the little loop.  So I dug into the 
nema box a little deeper and found the correct black cable.  And the radio 
was at default.


Thanks, All.

Blair Davis wrote:


Try this.

http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/

It works well for me and is free.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping 
addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address.  Any way 
to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a lot of 
addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this?






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Re: [WISPA] ping utility

[Scott Reed]

And, though it shouldn't work according to one of the RFCs, most of the time you can ping the broadcast address and then look at the ARP table.  I realize the original problem was fixed, but here is a quick find a machine procedure.
Assume PC is addressed as the device to be found and the subnet is correct.  For this, I will use 10.0.0.x/24.  Thus the broadcast address is 10.0.0.255.
In a DOS (cmd) window
ping 10.0.0.255
arp -a
Most device respond on the broadcast address.  The arp -a shows the arp table.  This does require the PC be on the same subnet as the device, but it is a shortcut way to find devices.

For doing real troubleshooting, I too like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ethereal.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


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 Glad you found your problem, but those of us who are lazy  
 

http://www.radmin.com/download/index.php 
 
 

and look for IPScanner windows based program which will scan a subnet. 

 
 

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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org 
 

Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:57 PM 
 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping utility 
 
 

 Thanks everyone.  Turns out I had the POE plugged into the switch 
instead  
 

 of the other black cable that was the one going up the tower.  
When I  
 

 plugged the LAN side of the POE into the switch I got 2 lights on the  

 

 switch to turn on.  Then I figured out the little loop.  So I dug 
into the  
 

 nema box a little deeper and found the correct black cable.  And the 
radio  
 

 was at default. 
 

 
 

 Thanks, All. 
 

 
 

 Blair Davis wrote: 
 

 
 

 Try this. 
 

 
 

 http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/ 
 

 
 

 It works well for me and is free. 
 

 
 

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 
 

 
 

 Is there a program out there that will work on windows to ping  

 

 addresses?  I hung a Trango AP and don't know it's IP address. 
 Any way  
 

 to get it?  I think I know what range it's on, but that is a 
lot of  
 

 addresses to ping.  Any program that will do this? 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

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[WISPA] ping

[Brian Rohrbacher]

ping
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