Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-24 Thread Michwave Internet

Dont use camo paint, most has metallic particles in it.


On 2/23/2012 2:38 PM, Jim Patient wrote:


Krylon Fusion but not red,  brown, or black.

Old hillbilly test is to paint a business card, let it dry, and 
microwave it.  If it gets hot don't use it.


Jim

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Hi Everyone,

We have a customer that we are putting in a ptmp 5.8ghz backhaul for 
wifi access points. Our customer is very big on aesthetics and would 
like to paint the omni that we are connecting the 5.8ghz backhaul AU to.


Does anyone know what kind of paint they should use to paint the 
antenna with?


I searched google and came up with epoxy paint. Is that correct?

Thanks,

--Eric Roth

Network Engineer

Webjogger Internet Services

(845) 757-4000

www.webjogger.net <http://www.webjogger.net>



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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-24 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I have some experience. Hit me offlist.

-Eric

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM, brandon jolley
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> I am working on?
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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-24 Thread Don Marino
are you looking to buy any Trango 900s?  Then I may be able to help.

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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-24 Thread brandon jolley
Hi
Any Trango 900 Users out there that might be able to help me with a issue I
am working on?
thanks
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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-24 Thread Eric Roth
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to send them to my customer and
let them decide how they want to paint it.

 

--Eric Roth

Network Engineer

Webjogger Internet Services

(845) 757-4000

www.webjogger.net

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

 

Quick answer... "stix" primer from Lowes 

 

A couple tips on Painting

 

You must use non-metalic non-carbon paint, to avoid RF loss.

 

As well, you must use a paint that bonds properly to your specific
material Steel, Aluminum, Plastic, ABS. There are many types of
plastics, and they each have their own chemical requirements for proper
paint type for bonding.  Many paint types used or  recommended by radio
manufacturer are paids for high production factory applications, and not
typically sold in small quantity and often require sprayers. 

 

The easiest way to solve the problem is to use a "Primer".  If you use the
proper primer, then you have the option to use a wide varierty of
inexpensive over the counter paints with worry free bonding.  

 

" Stix" is an excellent choice for Primer. Its sold at Lowes, inexpensive,
and can be used over metal and most plastics, such as those used most
commonly for Antenna radomes. 

 

After one coat of Stix, you can then paint over it with standard exterior
household latex paint.  We use Valspar Duramax Exterior Latex, with FLAT
finish, also sold at Lowes. 

(You still need to make sure paint is non-metallic/non-carbon, which the
Valspar is.) 

   

We prefer Flat instead of Gloss paints because, when an antenna is high on
a roof, glossy paint will reflect the sun more, and make the antenna look
like a bright light, and stand out like a sore thumb.

 

Primers are also easy. You'll will only need one coat of paint over the
primer. The paint should be applied over the primer before the primer is
fully dry, for optimal bond. (obviously not when the primer is still
wet.). Generally, paint can go on within 30min after primer applied.  

 

Using hardware store stock paint, allows you to save a bunch compared to
specialty paint stores. For example, a common Sherman Williams or
McCormick paint design for Plastic without a primer could easilly cost
$150-$200 a can, where as a gallon of ValSpar is $30, and Stix about $20.

 

What happens if you dont use a good primer, and just paint household paint
on Plastic? Well, within 6 months, the paint will be peeling off
everywhere and make a big mess.

 

If you have a good place to paint in advance, sure there are many good
choices for acrylics, enamels, or oil based. But using water based Latex
makes for easy clean up, and easy re-painting if ever needed, which works
well for field painting.

 

Dont get confused by all the different paint types, that cobine types, for
example acrylic latex, or acrylic enamel, etc. It doesn't really matter,
when painting over Stix. As long as using the good primer, Latex should
work fine.

 

The other thing is, painting over a pre-existing paint with the wrong type
can cause negative chemical reactions, and also cause poor bonding, or
peel after words.

The solution to that is to use the "Stix" primer. It can be painted over
most factory paints without worry, and allows most paints to be painted
over the Stix. 

The secret is the Primer, not the paint..

 

I'm not saying that Stix is the best, but I know Stix is non metalic and
non carbon and meets the requirements for antenna painting.  Many Primer
manufacturers do not like to disclose what their primer is made of because
its their secret competitive recipe, so its hard to get out of the
manufacturers whether it is metalic or carbon based or the loss it could
have to RF.

 

Another note, Paint looks a different color indoor than it does outdoors.
I'll mix it to look light, and then outside it will look to dark. So make
it lighter than you think you should. Also note, its much easier to make
paint darker, than it is to make it lighter. So if you make it to dark, it
takes a lot of paint added back to lighten it up.

 

As for color choice... I've had little luck painting to match the sky. The
reason is the color of the sky changes depending on the time of day and
the weather.  If trying to match the sky, use a lite (almost white) sky
blue. I prefer to match antenna paint to the same color as the building it
is mounted to, because a perfect match can be obtained, so it blends in
with the building, and does not stand out. Anythign a different color than
the building will draw the eye's attention to it. Painting to the sky
color only makes the antenna look transparent 25% of the day, when it
matches the sky, and the rest of the day when it doesn't, it stands out.  

 

 

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wire

Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
Quick answer... "stix" primer from Lowes 

A couple tips on Painting

You must use non-metalic non-carbon paint, to avoid RF loss.

As well, you must use a paint that bonds properly to your specific material 
Steel, Aluminum, Plastic, ABS. There are many types of plastics, and they each 
have their own chemical requirements for proper paint type for bonding.  Many 
paint types used or  recommended by radio manufacturer are paids for high 
production factory applications, and not typically sold in small quantity and 
often require sprayers. 

The easiest way to solve the problem is to use a "Primer".  If you use the 
proper primer, then you have the option to use a wide varierty of inexpensive 
over the counter paints with worry free bonding.  

" Stix" is an excellent choice for Primer. Its sold at Lowes, inexpensive, and 
can be used over metal and most plastics, such as those used most commonly for 
Antenna radomes. 

After one coat of Stix, you can then paint over it with standard exterior 
household latex paint.  We use Valspar Duramax Exterior Latex, with FLAT 
finish, also sold at Lowes. 
(You still need to make sure paint is non-metallic/non-carbon, which the 
Valspar is.) 
   
We prefer Flat instead of Gloss paints because, when an antenna is high on a 
roof, glossy paint will reflect the sun more, and make the antenna look like a 
bright light, and stand out like a sore thumb.

Primers are also easy. You'll will only need one coat of paint over the primer. 
The paint should be applied over the primer before the primer is fully dry, for 
optimal bond. (obviously not when the primer is still wet.). Generally, paint 
can go on within 30min after primer applied.  
 
Using hardware store stock paint, allows you to save a bunch compared to 
specialty paint stores. For example, a common Sherman Williams or McCormick 
paint design for Plastic without a primer could easilly cost $150-$200 a can, 
where as a gallon of ValSpar is $30, and Stix about $20.

What happens if you dont use a good primer, and just paint household paint on 
Plastic? Well, within 6 months, the paint will be peeling off everywhere and 
make a big mess.

If you have a good place to paint in advance, sure there are many good choices 
for acrylics, enamels, or oil based. But using water based Latex makes for easy 
clean up, and easy re-painting if ever needed, which works well for field 
painting.

Dont get confused by all the different paint types, that cobine types, for 
example acrylic latex, or acrylic enamel, etc. It doesn't really matter, when 
painting over Stix. As long as using the good primer, Latex should work fine.

The other thing is, painting over a pre-existing paint with the wrong type can 
cause negative chemical reactions, and also cause poor bonding, or peel after 
words.
The solution to that is to use the "Stix" primer. It can be painted over most 
factory paints without worry, and allows most paints to be painted over the 
Stix. 
The secret is the Primer, not the paint..

I'm not saying that Stix is the best, but I know Stix is non metalic and non 
carbon and meets the requirements for antenna painting.  Many Primer 
manufacturers do not like to disclose what their primer is made of because its 
their secret competitive recipe, so its hard to get out of the manufacturers 
whether it is metalic or carbon based or the loss it could have to RF.
 
Another note, Paint looks a different color indoor than it does outdoors. I'll 
mix it to look light, and then outside it will look to dark. So make it lighter 
than you think you should. Also note, its much easier to make paint darker, 
than it is to make it lighter. So if you make it to dark, it takes a lot of 
paint added back to lighten it up.

As for color choice... I've had little luck painting to match the sky. The 
reason is the color of the sky changes depending on the time of day and the 
weather.  If trying to match the sky, use a lite (almost white) sky blue. I 
prefer to match antenna paint to the same color as the building it is mounted 
to, because a perfect match can be obtained, so it blends in with the building, 
and does not stand out. Anythign a different color than the building will draw 
the eye's attention to it. Painting to the sky color only makes the antenna 
look transparent 25% of the day, when it matches the sky, and the rest of the 
day when it doesn't, it stands out.  

 
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Patient 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna


  Krylon Fusion but not red,  brown, or black.

   

  Old hillbilly test is to paint a business card, let it dry, and microwave it. 
 If it gets hot don't use it.

   

  Jim

   

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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
That's a good idea!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:
> Krylon Fusion but not red,  brown, or black.
>
>
>
> Old hillbilly test is to paint a business card, let it dry, and microwave
> it.  If it gets hot don’t use it.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eric Roth
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:03 AM
>
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: supp...@webjogger.net
> Subject: [WISPA] painting an antenna
>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> We have a customer that we are putting in a ptmp 5.8ghz backhaul for wifi
> access points. Our customer is very big on aesthetics and would like to
> paint the omni that we are connecting the 5.8ghz backhaul AU to.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know what kind of paint they should use to paint the antenna
> with?
>
>
>
> I searched google and came up with epoxy paint. Is that correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --Eric Roth
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Webjogger Internet Services
>
> (845) 757-4000
>
> www.webjogger.net
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-23 Thread Jim Patient
Krylon Fusion but not red,  brown, or black.

 

Old hillbilly test is to paint a business card, let it dry, and
microwave it.  If it gets hot don't use it.

 

Jim

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Roth
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: supp...@webjogger.net
Subject: [WISPA] painting an antenna

 

Hi Everyone,

 

We have a customer that we are putting in a ptmp 5.8ghz backhaul for
wifi access points. Our customer is very big on aesthetics and would
like to paint the omni that we are connecting the 5.8ghz backhaul AU to.

 

Does anyone know what kind of paint they should use to paint the antenna
with?

 

I searched google and came up with epoxy paint. Is that correct?

 

Thanks,

 

--Eric Roth

Network Engineer

Webjogger Internet Services

(845) 757-4000

www.webjogger.net

 

 



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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Any non metalic paint should be OK.  Standard painting methods for the material 
apply.  Some antennas are plastic, some are fiberglass.

Make sure you don't plug any vent holes in the bottom though!
marlon

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  From: Eric Roth 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Cc: supp...@webjogger.net 
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:02 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] painting an antenna


  Hi Everyone,

   

  We have a customer that we are putting in a ptmp 5.8ghz backhaul for wifi 
access points. Our customer is very big on aesthetics and would like to paint 
the omni that we are connecting the 5.8ghz backhaul AU to.

   

  Does anyone know what kind of paint they should use to paint the antenna with?

   

  I searched google and came up with epoxy paint. Is that correct?

   

  Thanks,

   

  --Eric Roth

  Network Engineer

  Webjogger Internet Services

  (845) 757-4000

  www.webjogger.net

   

   



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[WISPA] painting an antenna

2012-02-23 Thread Eric Roth
Hi Everyone,

 

We have a customer that we are putting in a ptmp 5.8ghz backhaul for wifi
access points. Our customer is very big on aesthetics and would like to
paint the omni that we are connecting the 5.8ghz backhaul AU to.

 

Does anyone know what kind of paint they should use to paint the antenna
with?

 

I searched google and came up with epoxy paint. Is that correct?

 

Thanks,

 

--Eric Roth

Network Engineer

Webjogger Internet Services

(845) 757-4000

www.webjogger.net

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Painting

2010-04-22 Thread Ryan Spott
I take great pride in hiding my cables and making everything neat and clean.
I often 'compete' with the Dish installers in the area. My work always looks
better.

ryan

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:

> Sorry I'm not answering your question but I had to mention this...
>
> Don't you find it odd that people always try to hide our stuff?  Poles,
> antennas, ethernet cables etc..
>
> Then you look right there to the left and theres the power company giant
> ugly wires coming from the pole to the large rusty pole on the building,
> the large solver box with the meter below etc.   To the right is the cable
> company wires running across the entire roof from the far side down the
> wall around the gutter then through the hole the guy drilled behind the
> phone closet.  Then there are the phone wires etc
>
> Is this not logical or is it just me :)  They want us to make it invisible
> but don't care what the cable, power or phone companies do.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> 
>
> From: "Steven G McGehee" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:56 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] Painting
>
> Had a question about painting outdoor ethernet cable -- we've actually
> never had to do it before, but did today for a particular install that
> required us transitioning from one flat roof straight down to another
> flat roof about 35ft below. The brick was near-white, our cable was
> black, so I went with a nearly matching an exterior latex paint and it
> seemed to take to the Mohawk outdoor ethernet cable well.
>
> My question is, is Krylon (I think that's the name) spray paint a better
> option than exterior latex paint applied heavily with a brush? I'm not
> concerned with cost since this was a rare occasion for us, and it didn't
> take too long to paint with a brush. I'm just wanting to find the best
> method to ensure the cable stays painted for as long as possible in the
> weather.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Painting

2010-04-22 Thread Steven G McGehee
Haha, that's a good point. One of the criteria we look at during site 
surveys is how can we best position the mount/unit for optimal 
performance but also least visibility from the ground? We're always 
trying to keep it hidden from the street or parking lot.

Also thanks for the response Bob -- in about a year or so we'll probably 
check back to see if that cable is visible. It's somewhat hard to 
explain, but the cable sits far back enough from the parking lot/front 
of the building and there are so many other objects to look at that I 
wonder how truly noticeable our 24 gauge cable would be against the 
building if the latex coat did wear off  -- time will tell, but 
I think if this comes up in the future we'll definitely go Krylon.

Thanks.



Scott Carullo wrote:
> Sorry I'm not answering your question but I had to mention this...
>
> Don't you find it odd that people always try to hide our stuff?  Poles, 
> antennas, ethernet cables etc..
>
> Then you look right there to the left and theres the power company giant 
> ugly wires coming from the pole to the large rusty pole on the building, 
> the large solver box with the meter below etc.   To the right is the cable 
> company wires running across the entire roof from the far side down the 
> wall around the gutter then through the hole the guy drilled behind the 
> phone closet.  Then there are the phone wires etc
>
> Is this not logical or is it just me :)  They want us to make it invisible 
> but don't care what the cable, power or phone companies do.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> 
>
> From: "Steven G McGehee" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:56 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] Painting
>
> Had a question about painting outdoor ethernet cable -- we've actually 
> never had to do it before, but did today for a particular install that 
> required us transitioning from one flat roof straight down to another 
> flat roof about 35ft below. The brick was near-white, our cable was 
> black, so I went with a nearly matching an exterior latex paint and it 
> seemed to take to the Mohawk outdoor ethernet cable well.
>
> My question is, is Krylon (I think that's the name) spray paint a better 
> option than exterior latex paint applied heavily with a brush? I'm not 
> concerned with cost since this was a rare occasion for us, and it didn't 
> take too long to paint with a brush. I'm just wanting to find the best 
> method to ensure the cable stays painted for as long as possible in the 
> weather.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [WISPA] Painting

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
Or the DirectTV install bolted right to the roof on the front of the house 
with cables drapped everywhere.

But we are held to a higher standard.  The Internets are to be elegant and 
stylish.  Did you not get the memo?

Bob-



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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting


> Sorry I'm not answering your question but I had to mention this...
>
> Don't you find it odd that people always try to hide our stuff?  Poles,
> antennas, ethernet cables etc..
>
> Then you look right there to the left and theres the power company giant
> ugly wires coming from the pole to the large rusty pole on the building,
> the large solver box with the meter below etc.   To the right is the cable
> company wires running across the entire roof from the far side down the
> wall around the gutter then through the hole the guy drilled behind the
> phone closet.  Then there are the phone wires etc
>
> Is this not logical or is it just me :)  They want us to make it invisible
> but don't care what the cable, power or phone companies do.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> 
>
> From: "Steven G McGehee" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:56 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] Painting
>
> Had a question about painting outdoor ethernet cable -- we've actually
> never had to do it before, but did today for a particular install that
> required us transitioning from one flat roof straight down to another
> flat roof about 35ft below. The brick was near-white, our cable was
> black, so I went with a nearly matching an exterior latex paint and it
> seemed to take to the Mohawk outdoor ethernet cable well.
>
> My question is, is Krylon (I think that's the name) spray paint a better
> option than exterior latex paint applied heavily with a brush? I'm not
> concerned with cost since this was a rare occasion for us, and it didn't
> take too long to paint with a brush. I'm just wanting to find the best
> method to ensure the cable stays painted for as long as possible in the
> weather.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Painting

2010-04-22 Thread Scott Carullo
Sorry I'm not answering your question but I had to mention this...

Don't you find it odd that people always try to hide our stuff?  Poles, 
antennas, ethernet cables etc..

Then you look right there to the left and theres the power company giant 
ugly wires coming from the pole to the large rusty pole on the building, 
the large solver box with the meter below etc.   To the right is the cable 
company wires running across the entire roof from the far side down the 
wall around the gutter then through the hole the guy drilled behind the 
phone closet.  Then there are the phone wires etc

Is this not logical or is it just me :)  They want us to make it invisible 
but don't care what the cable, power or phone companies do.

Scott Carullo
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From: "Steven G McGehee" 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:56 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] Painting

Had a question about painting outdoor ethernet cable -- we've actually 
never had to do it before, but did today for a particular install that 
required us transitioning from one flat roof straight down to another 
flat roof about 35ft below. The brick was near-white, our cable was 
black, so I went with a nearly matching an exterior latex paint and it 
seemed to take to the Mohawk outdoor ethernet cable well.

My question is, is Krylon (I think that's the name) spray paint a better 
option than exterior latex paint applied heavily with a brush? I'm not 
concerned with cost since this was a rare occasion for us, and it didn't 
take too long to paint with a brush. I'm just wanting to find the best 
method to ensure the cable stays painted for as long as possible in the 
weather.

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Re: [WISPA] Painting

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
I've used the krylon pain for plastic on the UV rated black cable and it 
seems to cover and stick very well.  Weathered perfectly over the winter, no 
cracking or flaking at all.

The latex, I would bet, will start to come off in a short time depending on 
the freeze and thaw.

Bob-




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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Painting


> Had a question about painting outdoor ethernet cable -- we've actually
> never had to do it before, but did today for a particular install that
> required us transitioning from one flat roof straight down to another
> flat roof about 35ft below. The brick was near-white, our cable was
> black, so I went with a nearly matching an exterior latex paint and it
> seemed to take to the Mohawk outdoor ethernet cable well.
>
> My question is, is Krylon (I think that's the name) spray paint a better
> option than exterior latex paint applied heavily with a brush? I'm not
> concerned with cost since this was a rare occasion for us, and it didn't
> take too long to paint with a brush. I'm just wanting to find the best
> method to ensure the cable stays painted for as long as possible in the
> weather.
>
> Thanks.
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[WISPA] Painting

2010-04-22 Thread Steven G McGehee
Had a question about painting outdoor ethernet cable -- we've actually 
never had to do it before, but did today for a particular install that 
required us transitioning from one flat roof straight down to another 
flat roof about 35ft below. The brick was near-white, our cable was 
black, so I went with a nearly matching an exterior latex paint and it 
seemed to take to the Mohawk outdoor ethernet cable well.

My question is, is Krylon (I think that's the name) spray paint a better 
option than exterior latex paint applied heavily with a brush? I'm not 
concerned with cost since this was a rare occasion for us, and it didn't 
take too long to paint with a brush. I'm just wanting to find the best 
method to ensure the cable stays painted for as long as possible in the 
weather.

Thanks.



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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Metal is fine in a microwave if it is carefully crafted to be the correct
non-destructive RF length in all directions.  It wasn't a special
capability of the "Litton Microwave Oven."

. . . J o n a t h a n

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Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome


I have an old 1984 Litton Microwave that you can put metal in. It even
came with a metal rack in it.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: "Robert West" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:27:33 -0500

>Hey, good tip, Ryan!  We're used to sparks in the microwave.  We do
>"experiments" as it is.  The kids favorite is making plasma balls with
>grapes.  We have an odd household..
>
>Thanks!
>
>Bob-
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Ryan Spott
>Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:13 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
>To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
>owned by you. (that last part is key!)
>
>Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
>Press start.
>
>Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
>No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!
>
>ryan
>
>On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy
>AP's,
>> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has
>> metal
>in
>> it
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> dan...@3-db.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>>
>> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
>> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has
>> it affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if
>> the
>Krylon
>> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time
>> and cash.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Scottie Arnett

I have an old 1984 Litton Microwave that you can put metal in. It even came 
with a metal rack in it.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: "Robert West" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:27:33 -0500

>Hey, good tip, Ryan!  We're used to sparks in the microwave.  We do
>"experiments" as it is.  The kids favorite is making plasma balls with
>grapes.  We have an odd household..
>
>Thanks!
>
>Bob-
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Ryan Spott
>Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:13 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
>To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
>owned by you. (that last part is key!)
>
>Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
>Press start.
>
>Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
>No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!
>
>ryan
>
>On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy
>AP's,
>> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal
>in
>> it
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> dan...@3-db.net
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>>
>> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
>> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
>> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the
>Krylon
>> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
>> cash.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Hammett
They make cheap clay pigeons.


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From: "Robert West" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:46 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

> Yeah.  There was a time when we looked forward to getting those AOL discs 
> in
> the mail.  One of the few families who liked getting them
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Ryan Spott
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
> Ever nuked a CD-ROM?
>
> The metal gets hot, liquefies the plastic that quickly cools when you
> press stop. You get some pretty cool lightning bolt patterns.
>
> ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>> Hey, good tip, Ryan!  We're used to sparks in the microwave.  We do
>> "experiments" as it is.  The kids favorite is making plasma balls with
>> grapes.  We have an odd household..
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ryan Spott
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:13 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>>
>> To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
>> owned by you. (that last part is key!)
>>
>> Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
>> Press start.
>>
>> Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
>> No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!
>>
>> ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>>> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy
>> AP's,
>>> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has 
>>> metal
>> in
>>> it
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>> 3-dB Networks
>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>> dan...@3-db.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>>>
>>> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
>>> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
>>> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the
>> Krylon
>>> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time 
>>> and
>>> cash.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert West
>>>
>>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>>
>>> 740-335-7020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Logo5
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Robert West
Yeah.  There was a time when we looked forward to getting those AOL discs in
the mail.  One of the few families who liked getting them



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

Ever nuked a CD-ROM?

The metal gets hot, liquefies the plastic that quickly cools when you
press stop. You get some pretty cool lightning bolt patterns.

ryan

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robert West 
wrote:
> Hey, good tip, Ryan!  We're used to sparks in the microwave.  We do
> "experiments" as it is.  The kids favorite is making plasma balls with
> grapes.  We have an odd household..
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Ryan Spott
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:13 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
> To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
> owned by you. (that last part is key!)
>
> Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
> Press start.
>
> Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
> No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!
>
> ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy
> AP's,
>> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal
> in
>> it
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> dan...@3-db.net
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>>
>> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
>> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
>> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the
> Krylon
>> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
>> cash.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>> 740-335-7020
>>
>>
>>
>> Logo5
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Ryan Spott
Ever nuked a CD-ROM?

The metal gets hot, liquefies the plastic that quickly cools when you
press stop. You get some pretty cool lightning bolt patterns.

ryan

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robert West  wrote:
> Hey, good tip, Ryan!  We're used to sparks in the microwave.  We do
> "experiments" as it is.  The kids favorite is making plasma balls with
> grapes.  We have an odd household..
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Ryan Spott
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:13 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
> To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
> owned by you. (that last part is key!)
>
> Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
> Press start.
>
> Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
> No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!
>
> ryan
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy
> AP's,
>> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal
> in
>> it
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> dan...@3-db.net
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>>
>> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
>> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
>> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the
> Krylon
>> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
>> cash.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>>
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>> 740-335-7020
>>
>>
>>
>> Logo5
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
I've heard of using the microwave for testing plastics and other materials as 
well as paint. I've heard that sparks are one thing to look for but another and 
perhaps equally as important is heat. For example, if you want to make your own 
radome take a piece of plastic and put it in the microwave. If it gets warm 
it's no good.

Greg
On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Ryan Spott wrote:

> To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
> owned by you. (that last part is key!)
> 
> Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
> Press start.
> 
> Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
> No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!
> 
> ryan
> 
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy AP's,
>> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal in
>> it
>> 
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> dan...@3-db.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>> 
>> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
>> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
>> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the Krylon
>> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
>> cash.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Robert West
Hey, good tip, Ryan!  We're used to sparks in the microwave.  We do
"experiments" as it is.  The kids favorite is making plasma balls with
grapes.  We have an odd household..

Thanks!

Bob-


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
owned by you. (that last part is key!)

Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
Press start.

Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!

ryan

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy
AP's,
> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal
in
> it
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> dan...@3-db.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the
Krylon
> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
> cash.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Ryan Spott
To test for metal perform this experiment in a microwave that is not
owned by you. (that last part is key!)

Spray on paper plate, allow to dry, place in microwave for 10 seconds.
Press start.

Sparks? There is metal in that there paint.
No Sparks? Pretty sure it is free of metal!

ryan

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
> I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy AP's,
> no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal in
> it
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> dan...@3-db.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome
>
> UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
> radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
> affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the Krylon
> for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
> cash.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Robert West
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Re: [WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread 3-dB Networks
I've used spray paint on radomes for licensed links before and Canopy AP's,
no problem.  Paint will only negatively affect the signal if it has metal in
it

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
dan...@3-db.net


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Painting Radome

UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the Krylon
for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
cash.

 

Thanks!

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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[WISPA] Painting Radome

2009-12-30 Thread Robert West
UBNT says it's cool to use the same paint for plastic on their sector
radome.  Like the Krylon plastic paint?  Anyone go this route and has it
affected your signal?  I can find radome paint on the net but if the Krylon
for Plastic from Ace Hardware works the same, would save me some time and
cash.

 

Thanks!

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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Re: [WISPA] Painting LMR-400

2006-04-01 Thread Jason

Good,

   Thanks Joe.  I was worried that the solvents might penetrate the 
cable jacket and do who know what.


Joe Laura wrote:
No worries. Might even give it a little shielding. hehe. 
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Anyone ever do this?  I had some that got painted with aluminized 
rustoleum today  Now I am wondering what it'll do.



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Re: [WISPA] Painting LMR-400

2006-04-01 Thread Joe Laura
No worries. Might even give it a little shielding. hehe. 
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> Anyone ever do this?  I had some that got painted with aluminized 
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[WISPA] Painting LMR-400

2006-04-01 Thread Jason
Anyone ever do this?  I had some that got painted with aluminized 
rustoleum today  Now I am wondering what it'll do.



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