Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
I hope it works out for you. Work with Frank on it. He can get you a 30 day free trial. We did that and it turned out to be a powerful sales tool for us as well. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Thanks, Marlon. I'm going to give it a try. I'll figure out if I want to charge my customers for it or not. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Yes, but those that don't want the service will just pass through. marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Since it is MX-based are you saying that all accounts for a particular domain must be routed through the service? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Mark, As a WISPA sponsoring vendor for Postini, I can offer some information as I was a Postini customer before I was asked to become a Postini Partner Reseller. Postini uses an MX directed service that redirects your customer's messages through the Postini hosted filtering data centers. Accounts can be manually created or use one of two automated user creation methods. There are no software or hardware concerns and the interface is 100% web based for all your system administration. Since closing down our dialup data center in 2002, we moved all our webhosting to our secondary provider we have used from our beginning and needed stronger filtering methods. Since we were too far away to administer an appliance type service, e.g. Barracuda, Ironport, etc., we gave Postini a try. Our main concern was reducing our server loads and increased disc space for handling the increasing amount of spam and viruses. Postini handled this by being at the front edge of the network and killing off a significant amount of wasted bandwidth created by spam/viruses, a definite plus. Since we did both virtual and dedicated hosting, our virtually hosted accounts that had high amounts of spam traffic, we saw increased server performance and significant amount of reduced disc space as well as reduced bandwidth overall. The cost of using Postini was genuinely a concern, but so was the potential cost of losing revenue from customers wanting a better filtering service and costs of increased bandwidth and server resources. We took advantage of Postini's 30 day trial and gave all our clients the same. We put all of our customer domains on the service and in using Postini's reporting, were able to see our largest email contributors and provide those stats to our customers on a before and after period of using Postini. This provided a good development tool in determining our costs to our customers and how we could offer the service to them and at what price. That said, we also began reaching outside of our own hosted customers and promoted Postini to other businesses, especially those hosting their own mail servers, e.g., MS Exchange. We again offered free trials and developed a significant amount of additional business by promoting Postini and leveraging their existing marketing and press credentials. By Postini being a hosted service, (Software as a Service - SaaS) we were also able to provide businesses with multiple offices a centralized management control of their email system messages. We have customers with as little as five accounts and some with over a thousand users and I can honestly say our churn is hardly measurable in almost 4 years of providing Postini, because they did not like or afford the service. One of the best features I feel Postini offers is a wireless feature for filtering to PDA's, e.g. Blackberry and Treo's. We actually have a few IT specialty companies promoting this feature alone and doing a very good job at that. As for the impact, all I can say is that in all my time providing Internet related services, I have never had an easier time than that in offering Postini. In fact, I have completely focused my company's direction on providing Postini exclusively and hopefully adding other related email services i
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
Thanks, Marlon. I'm going to give it a try. I'll figure out if I want to charge my customers for it or not. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Yes, but those that don't want the service will just pass through. marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Since it is MX-based are you saying that all accounts for a particular domain must be routed through the service? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Mark, As a WISPA sponsoring vendor for Postini, I can offer some information as I was a Postini customer before I was asked to become a Postini Partner Reseller. Postini uses an MX directed service that redirects your customer's messages through the Postini hosted filtering data centers. Accounts can be manually created or use one of two automated user creation methods. There are no software or hardware concerns and the interface is 100% web based for all your system administration. Since closing down our dialup data center in 2002, we moved all our webhosting to our secondary provider we have used from our beginning and needed stronger filtering methods. Since we were too far away to administer an appliance type service, e.g. Barracuda, Ironport, etc., we gave Postini a try. Our main concern was reducing our server loads and increased disc space for handling the increasing amount of spam and viruses. Postini handled this by being at the front edge of the network and killing off a significant amount of wasted bandwidth created by spam/viruses, a definite plus. Since we did both virtual and dedicated hosting, our virtually hosted accounts that had high amounts of spam traffic, we saw increased server performance and significant amount of reduced disc space as well as reduced bandwidth overall. The cost of using Postini was genuinely a concern, but so was the potential cost of losing revenue from customers wanting a better filtering service and costs of increased bandwidth and server resources. We took advantage of Postini's 30 day trial and gave all our clients the same. We put all of our customer domains on the service and in using Postini's reporting, were able to see our largest email contributors and provide those stats to our customers on a before and after period of using Postini. This provided a good development tool in determining our costs to our customers and how we could offer the service to them and at what price. That said, we also began reaching outside of our own hosted customers and promoted Postini to other businesses, especially those hosting their own mail servers, e.g., MS Exchange. We again offered free trials and developed a significant amount of additional business by promoting Postini and leveraging their existing marketing and press credentials. By Postini being a hosted service, (Software as a Service - SaaS) we were also able to provide businesses with multiple offices a centralized management control of their email system messages. We have customers with as little as five accounts and some with over a thousand users and I can honestly say our churn is hardly measurable in almost 4 years of providing Postini, because they did not like or afford the service. One of the best features I feel Postini offers is a wireless feature for filtering to PDA's, e.g. Blackberry and Treo's. We actually have a few IT specialty companies promoting this feature alone and doing a very good job at that. As for the impact, all I can say is that in all my time providing Internet related services, I have never had an easier time than that in offering Postini. In fact, I have completely focused my company's direction on providing Postini exclusively and hopefully adding other related email services in the future. In closing, no matter what service you use for spam/virus control, your customers need it and want it. Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Mark
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
What Marlon has said is correct, and to add that these accounts (non-accounts) could be set up to be filtered for Viruses. This is a great added value feature, one that Postini realized that not all your accounts will be added to the database, so they created an option to virus scan non-accounts. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, but those that don't want the service will just pass through. marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Since it is MX-based are you saying that all accounts for a particular domain must be routed through the service? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
Yes, but those that don't want the service will just pass through. marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Since it is MX-based are you saying that all accounts for a particular domain must be routed through the service? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Mark, As a WISPA sponsoring vendor for Postini, I can offer some information as I was a Postini customer before I was asked to become a Postini Partner Reseller. Postini uses an MX directed service that redirects your customer's messages through the Postini hosted filtering data centers. Accounts can be manually created or use one of two automated user creation methods. There are no software or hardware concerns and the interface is 100% web based for all your system administration. Since closing down our dialup data center in 2002, we moved all our webhosting to our secondary provider we have used from our beginning and needed stronger filtering methods. Since we were too far away to administer an appliance type service, e.g. Barracuda, Ironport, etc., we gave Postini a try. Our main concern was reducing our server loads and increased disc space for handling the increasing amount of spam and viruses. Postini handled this by being at the front edge of the network and killing off a significant amount of wasted bandwidth created by spam/viruses, a definite plus. Since we did both virtual and dedicated hosting, our virtually hosted accounts that had high amounts of spam traffic, we saw increased server performance and significant amount of reduced disc space as well as reduced bandwidth overall. The cost of using Postini was genuinely a concern, but so was the potential cost of losing revenue from customers wanting a better filtering service and costs of increased bandwidth and server resources. We took advantage of Postini's 30 day trial and gave all our clients the same. We put all of our customer domains on the service and in using Postini's reporting, were able to see our largest email contributors and provide those stats to our customers on a before and after period of using Postini. This provided a good development tool in determining our costs to our customers and how we could offer the service to them and at what price. That said, we also began reaching outside of our own hosted customers and promoted Postini to other businesses, especially those hosting their own mail servers, e.g., MS Exchange. We again offered free trials and developed a significant amount of additional business by promoting Postini and leveraging their existing marketing and press credentials. By Postini being a hosted service, (Software as a Service - SaaS) we were also able to provide businesses with multiple offices a centralized management control of their email system messages. We have customers with as little as five accounts and some with over a thousand users and I can honestly say our churn is hardly measurable in almost 4 years of providing Postini, because they did not like or afford the service. One of the best features I feel Postini offers is a wireless feature for filtering to PDA's, e.g. Blackberry and Treo's. We actually have a few IT specialty companies promoting this feature alone and doing a very good job at that. As for the impact, all I can say is that in all my time providing Internet related services, I have never had an easier time than that in offering Postini. In fact, I have completely focused my company's direction on providing Postini exclusively and hopefully adding other related email services in the future. In closing, no matter what service you use for spam/virus control, your customers need it and want it. Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those of you using this service, please tell me about it. 1. How accounts are set up to send through their system. 2. What you like about it. 3. What you don't like about it. 4. How do you pay for it? (increase subscriber costs, eat it, etc) 5. Has it had a positive impact on your customers (if you can tell)? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998-
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
Since it is MX-based are you saying that all accounts for a particular domain must be routed through the service? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Mark, As a WISPA sponsoring vendor for Postini, I can offer some information as I was a Postini customer before I was asked to become a Postini Partner Reseller. Postini uses an MX directed service that redirects your customer's messages through the Postini hosted filtering data centers. Accounts can be manually created or use one of two automated user creation methods. There are no software or hardware concerns and the interface is 100% web based for all your system administration. Since closing down our dialup data center in 2002, we moved all our webhosting to our secondary provider we have used from our beginning and needed stronger filtering methods. Since we were too far away to administer an appliance type service, e.g. Barracuda, Ironport, etc., we gave Postini a try. Our main concern was reducing our server loads and increased disc space for handling the increasing amount of spam and viruses. Postini handled this by being at the front edge of the network and killing off a significant amount of wasted bandwidth created by spam/viruses, a definite plus. Since we did both virtual and dedicated hosting, our virtually hosted accounts that had high amounts of spam traffic, we saw increased server performance and significant amount of reduced disc space as well as reduced bandwidth overall. The cost of using Postini was genuinely a concern, but so was the potential cost of losing revenue from customers wanting a better filtering service and costs of increased bandwidth and server resources. We took advantage of Postini's 30 day trial and gave all our clients the same. We put all of our customer domains on the service and in using Postini's reporting, were able to see our largest email contributors and provide those stats to our customers on a before and after period of using Postini. This provided a good development tool in determining our costs to our customers and how we could offer the service to them and at what price. That said, we also began reaching outside of our own hosted customers and promoted Postini to other businesses, especially those hosting their own mail servers, e.g., MS Exchange. We again offered free trials and developed a significant amount of additional business by promoting Postini and leveraging their existing marketing and press credentials. By Postini being a hosted service, (Software as a Service - SaaS) we were also able to provide businesses with multiple offices a centralized management control of their email system messages. We have customers with as little as five accounts and some with over a thousand users and I can honestly say our churn is hardly measurable in almost 4 years of providing Postini, because they did not like or afford the service. One of the best features I feel Postini offers is a wireless feature for filtering to PDA's, e.g. Blackberry and Treo's. We actually have a few IT specialty companies promoting this feature alone and doing a very good job at that. As for the impact, all I can say is that in all my time providing Internet related services, I have never had an easier time than that in offering Postini. In fact, I have completely focused my company's direction on providing Postini exclusively and hopefully adding other related email services in the future. In closing, no matter what service you use for spam/virus control, your customers need it and want it. Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those of you using this service, please tell me about it. 1. How accounts are set up to send through their system. 2. What you like about it. 3. What you don't like about it. 4. How do you pay for it? (increase subscriber costs, eat it, etc) 5. Has it had a positive impact on your customers (if you can tell)? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
Mark, As a WISPA sponsoring vendor for Postini, I can offer some information as I was a Postini customer before I was asked to become a Postini Partner Reseller. Postini uses an MX directed service that redirects your customer's messages through the Postini hosted filtering data centers. Accounts can be manually created or use one of two automated user creation methods. There are no software or hardware concerns and the interface is 100% web based for all your system administration. Since closing down our dialup data center in 2002, we moved all our webhosting to our secondary provider we have used from our beginning and needed stronger filtering methods. Since we were too far away to administer an appliance type service, e.g. Barracuda, Ironport, etc., we gave Postini a try. Our main concern was reducing our server loads and increased disc space for handling the increasing amount of spam and viruses. Postini handled this by being at the front edge of the network and killing off a significant amount of wasted bandwidth created by spam/viruses, a definite plus. Since we did both virtual and dedicated hosting, our virtually hosted accounts that had high amounts of spam traffic, we saw increased server performance and significant amount of reduced disc space as well as reduced bandwidth overall. The cost of using Postini was genuinely a concern, but so was the potential cost of losing revenue from customers wanting a better filtering service and costs of increased bandwidth and server resources. We took advantage of Postini's 30 day trial and gave all our clients the same. We put all of our customer domains on the service and in using Postini's reporting, were able to see our largest email contributors and provide those stats to our customers on a before and after period of using Postini. This provided a good development tool in determining our costs to our customers and how we could offer the service to them and at what price. That said, we also began reaching outside of our own hosted customers and promoted Postini to other businesses, especially those hosting their own mail servers, e.g., MS Exchange. We again offered free trials and developed a significant amount of additional business by promoting Postini and leveraging their existing marketing and press credentials. By Postini being a hosted service, (Software as a Service - SaaS) we were also able to provide businesses with multiple offices a centralized management control of their email system messages. We have customers with as little as five accounts and some with over a thousand users and I can honestly say our churn is hardly measurable in almost 4 years of providing Postini, because they did not like or afford the service. One of the best features I feel Postini offers is a wireless feature for filtering to PDA's, e.g. Blackberry and Treo's. We actually have a few IT specialty companies promoting this feature alone and doing a very good job at that. As for the impact, all I can say is that in all my time providing Internet related services, I have never had an easier time than that in offering Postini. In fact, I have completely focused my company's direction on providing Postini exclusively and hopefully adding other related email services in the future. In closing, no matter what service you use for spam/virus control, your customers need it and want it. Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those of you using this service, please tell me about it. 1. How accounts are set up to send through their system. 2. What you like about it. 3. What you don't like about it. 4. How do you pay for it? (increase subscriber costs, eat it, etc) 5. Has it had a positive impact on your customers (if you can tell)? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
We love it! 1: Two ways. Enter each addy by hand. Or there's an autocreate in which a user just has to get 3 emails in 24 hours and the account is automatically set up. We usually set up our hosted customers this way as it saves everyone time. They just create a new email account then send it a few test messages and poof, postini is up and running. 2: VERY low personel overhead. And it's always as current as anyone's gonna get. It's a "professional" third patry contractor for us, makes it easier to upsell. Also very few false positives. 3: GUI isn't at all intuitive when setting up new domains etc. Has spurts of heavy misses. 4: Optional service. We charge $1 per email account for spam/virus filtering. Just over 100% margin for this service. 5: I'll bet we've had less than 5 people decide it wasn't worth it. Ever. We have hundreds of email accounts using it now. The best part is that *I* don't need local tallent or contractors to admin yet another box or another service on an existing box. It's also stopping traffic BEFORE it gets to my network. We have lower bw needs due to postini. I've had customers trim 10 to 15 GIGS per month just by adding postini. The amount of html content is shocking in all of that spam crap. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service For those of you using this service, please tell me about it. 1. How accounts are set up to send through their system. 2. What you like about it. 3. What you don't like about it. 4. How do you pay for it? (increase subscriber costs, eat it, etc) 5. Has it had a positive impact on your customers (if you can tell)? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
For those of you using this service, please tell me about it. 1. How accounts are set up to send through their system. 2. What you like about it. 3. What you don't like about it. 4. How do you pay for it? (increase subscriber costs, eat it, etc) 5. Has it had a positive impact on your customers (if you can tell)? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
