Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-11-01 Thread George Rogato
Thanks Mark. Going to GI Joe's will give me a good reason to take the 
wife and go to the valley


Good find

George

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
George...forgot to tell you that I got it at G.I. Joes in Eugene.  I can 
pick one up for you if you want...Steve and I are fishing on the Siuslaw 
this Friday...salmon should get moving with the rain coming over the 
next two days.


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



I found it...here's the model.

http://www.amazon.com/SeaSense-Power-Station-Boat-Battery/dp/B000FZ4U4M

Maybe you could cut that hole in your van in the driver's door and 
just hold your cig hand outside... ;)


Mark Nash
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Thanks Mark

Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to 
the side of my van.


George

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your 
recreational

supply store.  Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v
power port.

...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for.  ;)

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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I've had a truck with a 750 watt inverter in it for 5 plus years.  I 
don't use it everyday, but often enough.

http://www.heartlandamerica.com/browse/item.asp?PIN=35595;

Brian

Rick Smith wrote:


how long have you been doing it tho ?

I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM!  No alternator.

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Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
running without any issue...

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a
1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
I
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't
affect the alternator.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 


be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different
   


trucks in
 


my span here,
and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was
   

a 
 


Jeep
Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
alternator

Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load
   

on 
 


the
alternator...

I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the
   


alternator.
 

Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged 
dewalt

18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2
   



 


hours
which is more
than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use
   


their
 


power to
power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

R

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   


On
 


Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter 
power

port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay
   


on
 


for much longer for an hour.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


   


What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via
 


auto
 


adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread George Rogato

My van's 300 watt inverter is going on 3+ years.

Only lately has my battery starting to drain too fast. Not sure if the 
inverter is starting to go, or if it's the two laptops, battery charger 
and power supplies I leave plugged in.


I'm thinking of adding another battery, just need to find a battery box 
that is sealed to install inside the van that won't blow up if I light up.


George

Rick Smith wrote:

how long have you been doing it tho ?

I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM!  No alternator.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
running without any issue...

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a
1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
I
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't
affect the alternator.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different

trucks in

my span here,
and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was
a 

Jeep
Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
alternator

Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load
on 

the
alternator...

I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the

alternator.
Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged 
dewalt

18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2



hours
which is more
than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use

their

power to
power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On

Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter 
power

port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay

on

for much longer for an hour.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via

auto

adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Two batteries will stress an alternator.  Like everything else we do, 
make sure to get an alternator that is rated for the job.


Brian

George Rogato wrote:


My van's 300 watt inverter is going on 3+ years.

Only lately has my battery starting to drain too fast. Not sure if the 
inverter is starting to go, or if it's the two laptops, battery 
charger and power supplies I leave plugged in.


I'm thinking of adding another battery, just need to find a battery 
box that is sealed to install inside the van that won't blow up if I 
light up.


George

Rick Smith wrote:


how long have you been doing it tho ?

I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM!  No alternator.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
running without any issue...

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back 
with a

1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
I
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it 
won't

affect the alternator.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different


trucks in


my span here,
and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was


a


Jeep
Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
alternator

Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load


on


the
alternator...

I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the


alternator.

Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of 
charged dewalt

18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2




hours
which is more
than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use


their


power to
power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On


Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette 
lighter power

port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay


on


for much longer for an hour.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via



auto


adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your recreational
supply store.  Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v
power port.

...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for.  ;)

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 My van's 300 watt inverter is going on 3+ years.

 Only lately has my battery starting to drain too fast. Not sure if the
 inverter is starting to go, or if it's the two laptops, battery charger
 and power supplies I leave plugged in.

 I'm thinking of adding another battery, just need to find a battery box
 that is sealed to install inside the van that won't blow up if I light up.

 George

 Rick Smith wrote:
  how long have you been doing it tho ?
 
  I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM!  No alternator.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark McElvy
  Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
 
  I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
  running without any issue...
 
  Mark McElvy
  AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
  573.729.9200 - Office
  573.729.9203 - Fax
  573.247.9980 - Mobile
  http://www.accubak.com/
  http://www.accubak.net/
  Nationwide Internet Access
  Accurate backups for your critical data!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
 
  Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with
a
  1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
  I
  have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it
won't
  affect the alternator.
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message -
  From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
 
 
  be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different
  trucks in
  my span here,
  and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was
  a
  Jeep
  Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
  alternator
 
  Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load
  on
  the
  alternator...
 
  I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
  routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.
 
  I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the
  alternator.
  Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged
  dewalt
  18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2
 
  hours
  which is more
  than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use
  their
  power to
  power the radios and recharge my laptop :)
 
  R
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
 
  I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter
  power
  port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay
  on
  for much longer for an hour.
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message -
  From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys
 
 
  What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
  before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via
  auto
  adapter)
 
  We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
  antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
  power source for the radio.
 
  BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
  for 5 - 10 minutes.
 
  Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?
 
 
  Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
  KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
  Your Hometown Broadband Provider
  http://www.KyWiFi.com
  Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread Mark McElvy
At least 6 months maybe a little more. I generally do not have the
engine running when I do a site survey and my laptop has a 12v adapter.

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

how long have you been doing it tho ?

I saw no issues for 3 - 4 mnths, then BAM!  No alternator.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
running without any issue...

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with
a
1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
I
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it
won't
affect the alternator.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different
trucks in
 my span here,
 and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was
a 
 Jeep
 Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
 alternator

 Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load
on 
 the
 alternator...

 I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
 routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

 I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the
alternator.

 Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged 
 dewalt
 18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2

 hours
 which is more
 than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use
their
 power to
 power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

 R

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

 I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter 
 power
 port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay
on
 for much longer for an hour.

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message -
 From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
 before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via
auto
 adapter)

 We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
 antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
 power source for the radio.

 BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
 for 5 - 10 minutes.

 Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread George Rogato

Thanks Mark

Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to 
the side of my van.


George

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:

Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your recreational
supply store.  Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v
power port.

...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for.  ;)

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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread Mark Nash - Lists

I found it...here's the model.

http://www.amazon.com/SeaSense-Power-Station-Boat-Battery/dp/B000FZ4U4M

Maybe you could cut that hole in your van in the driver's door and just hold 
your cig hand outside... ;)


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From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



Thanks Mark

Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to the 
side of my van.


George

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your 
recreational

supply store.  Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v
power port.

...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for.  ;)

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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-31 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
George...forgot to tell you that I got it at G.I. Joes in Eugene.  I can 
pick one up for you if you want...Steve and I are fishing on the Siuslaw 
this Friday...salmon should get moving with the rain coming over the next 
two days.


Mark Nash
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Nash - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



I found it...here's the model.

http://www.amazon.com/SeaSense-Power-Station-Boat-Battery/dp/B000FZ4U4M

Maybe you could cut that hole in your van in the driver's door and just 
hold your cig hand outside... ;)


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



Thanks Mark

Vented is what I'm looking for. Wonder if I should take a hole saw to the 
side of my van.


George

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
Look to a marine battery enclosure in the boat section of your 
recreational

supply store.  Carrying strap, vented, charge indicator, and with a 12v
power port.

...or perhaps the word 'vented' is not what you were asking for.  ;)

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RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-30 Thread Rick Smith
be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different trucks in
my span here,
and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was a Jeep
Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
alternator

Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on the
alternator...

I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator.

Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged dewalt
18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2 hours
which is more
than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their
power to 
power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power
port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on
for much longer for an hour.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
 before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
 adapter)

 We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
 antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
 power source for the radio.

 BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
 for 5 - 10 minutes.

 Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
 Your Hometown Broadband Provider
 http://www.KyWiFi.com
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with a 
1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.  I 
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it won't 
affect the alternator.


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different trucks in
my span here,
and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was a 
Jeep

Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
alternator

Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load on 
the

alternator...

I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the alternator.

Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged 
dewalt
18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2 
hours

which is more
than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use their
power to
power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter 
power

port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on
for much longer for an hour.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message -
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-30 Thread Mark McElvy
I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
running without any issue...

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with
a 
1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
I 
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it
won't 
affect the alternator.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different
trucks in
 my span here,
 and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was
a 
 Jeep
 Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
 alternator

 Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load
on 
 the
 alternator...

 I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
 routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

 I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the
alternator.

 Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged 
 dewalt
 18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2

 hours
 which is more
 than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use
their
 power to
 power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

 R

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

 I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter 
 power
 port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay
on
 for much longer for an hour.

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message -
 From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


 What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
 before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via
auto
 adapter)

 We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
 antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
 power source for the radio.

 BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
 for 5 - 10 minutes.

 Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


 Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
 KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
 Your Hometown Broadband Provider
 http://www.KyWiFi.com
 Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Get a 12 volt emergency light battery.

Cheap and easy.  Some are pretty small too.

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To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I use a 400 watt inverter for my spectrum analyzer.  It won't work without 
the motor running!


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- Original Message - 
From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


I use a 100 and 300 watt in my 99 F-350 with the engine running and not
running without any issue...

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

Hmmm... At first I had an '84 Chevy Van w/14'x7'x7' box on the back with
a
1000 watt inverter.  Now I have a 2004 Ranger with a 100 watt inverter.
I
have never used the inverters with the motor running, though, so it
won't
affect the alternator.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



be careful using inverters.  I've used several, on two different

trucks in

my span here,
and burned out the alternator in short order in both trucks.  One was

a

Jeep
Grand Cherokee, the latest a Ford Expedition with the high output
alternator

Running too many amps through the inverters puts a REALLY heavy load

on

the
alternator...

I've used an inverter in the past to power laptop, trango, canopy,
routerboard and tranzeo setups in varying degrees.

I'm convinced that frequent usage of the inverters kills the

alternator.


Now, I just leave with a laptop fully charged and a couple of charged
dewalt
18V batteries that power my radio setup.  The dewalts last from 1 to 2



hours
which is more
than enough time.   If we're surveying at a customer's home, we use

their

power to
power the radios and recharge my laptop :)

R

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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter
power
port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay

on

for much longer for an hour.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
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Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via

auto

adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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[WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread KyWiFi LLC
What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread Eric Rogers
We use the 18V DeWalt Flashlights and take the head off.  Put a Cat5
plug on it where the flashlight head was, and you can inject power into
the devices.  Be sure to use a volt meter because on the one I had, Red
was negative, and Black was positive.

If you make a Cisco Reverse PoE cable, you can power the Motorola gear
too.  We used the DeWalt gear because we use the drills, and they all
take the same battery.

Eric

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:30 AM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread KyWiFi LLC
So 18vdc *should not* damage a 12vdc radio?

Any idea on how long an 18vdc DeWalt battery pack will
power a 12vdc radio?


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- Original Message - 
From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


We use the 18V DeWalt Flashlights and take the head off.  Put a Cat5
plug on it where the flashlight head was, and you can inject power into
the devices.  Be sure to use a volt meter because on the one I had, Red
was negative, and Black was positive.

If you make a Cisco Reverse PoE cable, you can power the Motorola gear
too.  We used the DeWalt gear because we use the drills, and they all
take the same battery.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:30 AM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread Eric Rogers
1 hr???  We use them for a site-survey and are done... I know they last
more than 20 minutes.

Don't know what kind of devices you are using, but Tranzeos, CB3s, and
Mikrotik (all what we use for clients) support 12-22VDC.  Then the
Motorola is supposed to be 24V, but 18V still powers it.

Eric

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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

So 18vdc *should not* damage a 12vdc radio?

Any idea on how long an 18vdc DeWalt battery pack will
power a 12vdc radio?


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- Original Message - 
From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys


We use the 18V DeWalt Flashlights and take the head off.  Put a Cat5
plug on it where the flashlight head was, and you can inject power into
the devices.  Be sure to use a volt meter because on the one I had, Red
was negative, and Black was positive.

If you make a Cisco Reverse PoE cable, you can power the Motorola gear
too.  We used the DeWalt gear because we use the drills, and they all
take the same battery.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:30 AM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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RE: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread Brent Hegerfeld
We use 18volt Bosch batteries from our cordless drills to temporarily power
cpe's for sight surveys.  Not sure how long they would last under continuous
use.  We use them because they are part of our tool supply and are always
charged.


Thanks,
Brent Hegerfeld
 
East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC
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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:30 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys

2006-10-29 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I use a 100 watt inverter that plugs right into the cigarette lighter power 
port.  May not power the laptop (haven't tested) but the CPE will stay on 
for much longer for an hour.


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
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- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Powering 12-volt CPE via battery for site surveys



What is the best way to power a 12-volt radio for 30 - 60 minutes
before requiring a re-charge? (solution must be re-chargeable via auto
adapter)

We are wanting to use an actual CPE radio with a 19dBi panel
antenna, connected to an iPAQ/Axim so we are needing a re-chargeable
power source for the radio.

BTW, we tried a 9-volt battery but it only kept the radio powered up
for 5 - 10 minutes.

Would something like http://tinyurl.com/vgm4n work?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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