Re: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps Please read the Answer
Great question. In addition to wireless, in college I also studied Entomology,Botony, Biology, and other related. Anyway, I had a great entomology professor from Ohio State. Wasps are of the family Vespidae of the great Order Hymenoptera (which also includes the ants and the bees). The answer is: it is wasp MATING and the MALES are swarming with females. The season usually every later summer/fall until about december. Read on: The "swarm" you describe are all the males "fighting" for the highest perch to release their "pheremones" to attract the female wasp. What's going on is the wasps are mistaking the tower for a large tree or snag. But for the male wasp he really just wants to be "king of the hill" and find the highest perch so his pheremones waft the furthest. What a guy! Sound familiar? Hey, even guys want the best cologen (at least us the single guys). If you don't believe me read the link: http://www.pctonline.com/articles/article.asp?ID=340&CatID=6&SubCatID=28 Thanks for asking! Felix Lopez Utilities and Wireless San Francisco Area in College. --- Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What precautions does OSHA expect for these type > situation, that unarguabley > have safety issues. > Do they want the climbers to wear some sort of > protective clothing, more > than what they normally wear? > > PS. Microwave Radio's power levels do not harm > Humans, but wonder if the > WASPs feel the heat/radiation from the Microwave, > since they are so small or > their shells acting as antennas? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Lakeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:13 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps > > > >I personally don't think its the RF that attracts > them. I have been on > >many towers and tanks with no antennas mounted and > still have to deal with > >my little friends. Personally I think its the heat > that the metal draws > >from the sun and the static electricity present on > the face of the steel. > > And I agree with Butch. They are pretty passive > unless they have built a > > nest up there and you are the lucky one to find it > or you happen to grip > > one while climbing. This is obviously avoided by > using gloves. > > You really should be more concerned with birds > (hawks, eagles, etc) that > > may nest or roost up there and snakes. Yes..snakes > like to go up there > > too. > > And then there is the real beast everyone should > be worried > > aboutFALLING! 100% tie off at all times > please. > > Be safe and say hi to the bees for me. :-) > > -B- > > > > > > > > > > Butch Evans writes: > >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >>> Does anyone know what causes the swarming > behavior in wasps around > >>> towers. I dont mean a few of them hanging out > having a smoke and > >>> sharpening their stingers. I mean the big > swarms of hundreds. We were > >>> at 4 different locations yesterday. All of them > were unclimbable due to > >>> swarms of wasps. No nests on the structures > either. > >> > >> They are attracted to the RF for some reason. As > for climbing, they are > >> generally docile (at least around here). We > usually see them around this > >> time of year (or a bit later) as it starts to > cool off. I suspect that > >> the RF warms them. Either way, the ones around > here usually are around > >> 50-150'. It is spooky climbing through them, but > so long as you don't > >> set your hand on one, they are pretty calm. I > was on a water tower a few > >> years ago that had HUNDREDS of wasps floating > around the top. > >> Unfortunately, I was around the top, too. I spent > 4 hours "in the swarm" > >> with no stings. -- > >> Butch Evans > >> Network Engineering and Security Consulting > >> 573-276-2879 > >> http://www.butchevans.com/ > >> My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 > >> Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf > >> Mikrotik Certified Consultant > >> http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html > >> > -- > >> -- > >> > >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on > October the 16th 2007 at > >> ISPCON ** >
RE: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps
Tie a few Bounce sheets to your harness and your belt and spray the back of your head and neck with Deet. Seems to work on the ones we have out here, the extra 'hankies" look funny, but work. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps What precautions does OSHA expect for these type situation, that unarguabley have safety issues. Do they want the climbers to wear some sort of protective clothing, more than what they normally wear? PS. Microwave Radio's power levels do not harm Humans, but wonder if the WASPs feel the heat/radiation from the Microwave, since they are so small or their shells acting as antennas? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Lakeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps >I personally don't think its the RF that attracts them. I have been on >many towers and tanks with no antennas mounted and still have to deal with >my little friends. Personally I think its the heat that the metal draws >from the sun and the static electricity present on the face of the steel. > And I agree with Butch. They are pretty passive unless they have built a > nest up there and you are the lucky one to find it or you happen to grip > one while climbing. This is obviously avoided by using gloves. > You really should be more concerned with birds (hawks, eagles, etc) that > may nest or roost up there and snakes. Yes..snakes like to go up there > too. > And then there is the real beast everyone should be worried > aboutFALLING! 100% tie off at all times please. > Be safe and say hi to the bees for me. :-) > -B- > > > > > Butch Evans writes: >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around >>> towers. I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and >>> sharpening their stingers. I mean the big swarms of hundreds. We were >>> at 4 different locations yesterday. All of them were unclimbable due to >>> swarms of wasps. No nests on the structures either. >> >> They are attracted to the RF for some reason. As for climbing, they >> are >> generally docile (at least around here). We usually see them around this >> time of year (or a bit later) as it starts to cool off. I suspect that >> the RF warms them. Either way, the ones around here usually are around >> 50-150'. It is spooky climbing through them, but so long as you don't >> set your hand on one, they are pretty calm. I was on a water tower a few >> years ago that had HUNDREDS of wasps floating around the top. >> Unfortunately, I was around the top, too. I spent 4 hours "in the swarm" >> with no stings. -- >> Butch Evans >> Network Engineering and Security Consulting >> 573-276-2879 >> http://www.butchevans.com/ >> My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 >> Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf >> Mikrotik Certified Consultant >> http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html >> -- >> -- >> >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 >> at >> ISPCON ** >> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** >> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** >> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** >> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at >> http://www.ispcon.com/register.php >> ** -- >> -- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -- >> -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: >> http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, NY 11741 > 800-479-9195 > 631-286-8873 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM
Re: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps
What precautions does OSHA expect for these type situation, that unarguabley have safety issues. Do they want the climbers to wear some sort of protective clothing, more than what they normally wear? PS. Microwave Radio's power levels do not harm Humans, but wonder if the WASPs feel the heat/radiation from the Microwave, since they are so small or their shells acting as antennas? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Lakeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps I personally don't think its the RF that attracts them. I have been on many towers and tanks with no antennas mounted and still have to deal with my little friends. Personally I think its the heat that the metal draws from the sun and the static electricity present on the face of the steel. And I agree with Butch. They are pretty passive unless they have built a nest up there and you are the lucky one to find it or you happen to grip one while climbing. This is obviously avoided by using gloves. You really should be more concerned with birds (hawks, eagles, etc) that may nest or roost up there and snakes. Yes..snakes like to go up there too. And then there is the real beast everyone should be worried aboutFALLING! 100% tie off at all times please. Be safe and say hi to the bees for me. :-) -B- Butch Evans writes: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around towers. I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and sharpening their stingers. I mean the big swarms of hundreds. We were at 4 different locations yesterday. All of them were unclimbable due to swarms of wasps. No nests on the structures either. They are attracted to the RF for some reason. As for climbing, they are generally docile (at least around here). We usually see them around this time of year (or a bit later) as it starts to cool off. I suspect that the RF warms them. Either way, the ones around here usually are around 50-150'. It is spooky climbing through them, but so long as you don't set your hand on one, they are pretty calm. I was on a water tower a few years ago that had HUNDREDS of wasps floating around the top. Unfortunately, I was around the top, too. I spent 4 hours "in the swarm" with no stings. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 9/20/2007 12:07 PM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE
[WISPA] Re: OT: Wasps
I personally don't think its the RF that attracts them. I have been on many towers and tanks with no antennas mounted and still have to deal with my little friends. Personally I think its the heat that the metal draws from the sun and the static electricity present on the face of the steel. And I agree with Butch. They are pretty passive unless they have built a nest up there and you are the lucky one to find it or you happen to grip one while climbing. This is obviously avoided by using gloves. You really should be more concerned with birds (hawks, eagles, etc) that may nest or roost up there and snakes. Yes..snakes like to go up there too. And then there is the real beast everyone should be worried aboutFALLING! 100% tie off at all times please. Be safe and say hi to the bees for me. :-) -B- Butch Evans writes: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around towers. I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and sharpening their stingers. I mean the big swarms of hundreds. We were at 4 different locations yesterday. All of them were unclimbable due to swarms of wasps. No nests on the structures either. They are attracted to the RF for some reason. As for climbing, they are generally docile (at least around here). We usually see them around this time of year (or a bit later) as it starts to cool off. I suspect that the RF warms them. Either way, the ones around here usually are around 50-150'. It is spooky climbing through them, but so long as you don't set your hand on one, they are pretty calm. I was on a water tower a few years ago that had HUNDREDS of wasps floating around the top. Unfortunately, I was around the top, too. I spent 4 hours "in the swarm" with no stings. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
