Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
My guess would be the total bandwidth you are trying to put through the AP what are the average plan speeds going through? If you were running an average CPE at 5-6Mbps then 30 or so CPEs should not be too much of an issue, but if the average is higher or the average of customers streaming video or gaming is 'above norm'... then that would certainly start causing an overload situation and may require adding more APs. I think you need to get a handle on details... what is the bandwidth usage at each CPE from 3 to 9PM... looking for a crash point at the AP... looking at the total load growth in that period. Or it could be as simple as one CPE has not been controlled, which happens to be a rogue high user... I had one few months ago... was running Chat Servers on a public IP which a tech forgot to bandwidth control! On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Art Stephens wrote: > 5gig 20Mhz > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart < > cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote: > >> Need to know - Freq, and CW? >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens wrote: >> >>> Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of >>> these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. >>> >>> What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when >>> they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed >>> tests to the radios and they look ok. >>> >>> Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. >>> >>> Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected >>> to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he >>> tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would >>> not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has >>> 19 subs. >>> >>> Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring >>> the through put down to 500K? >>> >>> We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but >>> need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. >>> >>> Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. >>> >>> -- >>> Arthur Stephens >>> Senior Networking Technician >>> Ptera Inc. >>> PO Box 135 >>> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>> 509-927-7837 >>> ptera.com >>> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >>> >>> >>> - >>> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >>> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >>> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >>> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >>> intended to represent those of the company." >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> -- >> SCS >> Clay Stewart >> CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., >> DBA Stewart Computer Services >> 434.263.6363 O >> 434.942.6510 C >> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com >> “We Keep You Up and Running” >>Wireless Broadband >>Programming >> Network Services >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > - > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Call Procera and tell them you are having bottlenecks. Is not this the very thing they are supposed to not allow. Steve Barnes General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Art Stephens Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet doing the shaping. Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet. Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links Hope that helps On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> From: "Art Stephens" mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com<http://ptera.com> facebook.com/PteraInc<http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera<http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org<mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org<mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com<http://ptera.com> facebook.com/PteraInc<http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera<http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Can u send a screenshot of the station list on one of the struggling APs? On Apr 17, 2014 11:11 AM, "Art Stephens" wrote: > 5gig 20Mhz > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart < > cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote: > >> Need to know - Freq, and CW? >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens wrote: >> >>> Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of >>> these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. >>> >>> What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when >>> they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed >>> tests to the radios and they look ok. >>> >>> Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. >>> >>> Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected >>> to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he >>> tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would >>> not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has >>> 19 subs. >>> >>> Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring >>> the through put down to 500K? >>> >>> We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but >>> need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. >>> >>> Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. >>> >>> -- >>> Arthur Stephens >>> Senior Networking Technician >>> Ptera Inc. >>> PO Box 135 >>> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>> 509-927-7837 >>> ptera.com >>> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >>> >>> >>> - >>> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >>> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >>> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >>> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >>> intended to represent those of the company." >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> -- >> SCS >> Clay Stewart >> CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., >> DBA Stewart Computer Services >> 434.263.6363 O >> 434.942.6510 C >> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com >> "We Keep You Up and Running" >>Wireless Broadband >>Programming >> Network Services >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > - > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
5gig 20Mhz On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart < cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote: > Need to know - Freq, and CW? > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens wrote: > >> Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of >> these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. >> >> What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when >> they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed >> tests to the radios and they look ok. >> >> Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. >> >> Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to >> one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried >> to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not >> start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 >> subs. >> >> Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the >> through put down to 500K? >> >> We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but >> need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. >> >> Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. >> >> -- >> Arthur Stephens >> Senior Networking Technician >> Ptera Inc. >> PO Box 135 >> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >> 509-927-7837 >> ptera.com >> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >> >> >> - >> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >> intended to represent those of the company." >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > > -- > > > -- > SCS > Clay Stewart > CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., > DBA Stewart Computer Services > 434.263.6363 O > 434.942.6510 C > cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com > "We Keep You Up and Running" >Wireless Broadband >Programming > Network Services > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
I have not tried the TOP yet during peak times. Our packages are 5, 7 and 10 Meg. I am not sure what you mean by modulation of customers. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: > You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your > details on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds sold, > modulation of customers etc? > On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > >> PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through >> our core even right now (peak time, 9pm). >> >> *Josh Reynolds* >> Chief Information Officer >> SPITwSPOTS >> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com >> On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: >> >> Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... >> On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" >> wrote: >> >>> My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per >>> second). >>> >>> Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in >>> quantity... >>> >>> So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. >>> >>> How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? >>> >>> Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will >>> have to describe your network a bit >>> >>> Bridged ? Routed ? >>> What is doing Traffic Shaping ? >>> >>> How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. >>> >>> I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are >>> describing.. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *From: *"Art Stephens" >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM >>> *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put >>> >>> Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few >>> of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. >>> >>> What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night >>> when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run >>> speed tests to the radios and they look ok. >>> >>> Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. >>> >>> Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected >>> to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he >>> tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would >>> not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has >>> 19 subs. >>> >>> Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring >>> the through put down to 500K? >>> >>> We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but >>> need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. >>> >>> Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. >>> >>> -- >>> Arthur Stephens >>> Senior Networking Technician >>> Ptera Inc. >>> PO Box 135 >>> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>> 509-927-7837 >>> ptera.com >>> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >>> >>> >>> - >>> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >>> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >>> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >>> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >>> intended to represent those of the company." >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet doing the shaping. Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet. Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links Hope that helps On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). > > Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... > > So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. > > How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? > > Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have > to describe your network a bit > > Bridged ? Routed ? > What is doing Traffic Shaping ? > > How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. > > I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. > > :) > > Regards. > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Art Stephens" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM > *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put > > Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of > these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. > > What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when > they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed > tests to the radios and they look ok. > > Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. > > Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to > one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried > to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not > start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 > subs. > > Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the > through put down to 500K? > > We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but > need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. > > Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. > > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > - > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Need to know - Freq, and CW? On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens wrote: > Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of > these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. > > What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when > they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed > tests to the radios and they look ok. > > Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. > > Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to > one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried > to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not > start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 > subs. > > Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the > through put down to 500K? > > We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but > need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. > > Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. > > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > - > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
That's not entirely true I don't believe, often radio issues will show up as SoftIRQ, not actual CPU usage. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 04/17/2014 03:26 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your details on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds sold, modulation of customers etc? On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote: PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through our core even right now (peak time, 9pm). *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> | www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com> On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> *From: *"Art Stephens" mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> *To: *"WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com <http://ptera.com> facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless __
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your details on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds sold, modulation of customers etc? On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through > our core even right now (peak time, 9pm). > > *Josh Reynolds* > Chief Information Officer > SPITwSPOTS > j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com > On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: > > Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... > On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > >> My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per >> second). >> >> Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in >> quantity... >> >> So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. >> >> How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? >> >> Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will >> have to describe your network a bit >> >> Bridged ? Routed ? >> What is doing Traffic Shaping ? >> >> How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. >> >> I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are >> describing.. >> >> :) >> >> Regards. >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> -- >> >> *From: *"Art Stephens" >> *To: *"WISPA General List" >> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM >> *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put >> >> Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few >> of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. >> >> What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when >> they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed >> tests to the radios and they look ok. >> >> Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. >> >> Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected >> to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he >> tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would >> not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has >> 19 subs. >> >> Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring >> the through put down to 500K? >> >> We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but >> need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. >> >> Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. >> >> -- >> Arthur Stephens >> Senior Networking Technician >> Ptera Inc. >> PO Box 135 >> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >> 509-927-7837 >> ptera.com >> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >> >> >> - >> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >> intended to represent those of the company." >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through our core even right now (peak time, 9pm). *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *"Art Stephens" mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> *To: *"WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com <http://ptera.com> facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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25Kpps *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *"Art Stephens" mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> *To: *"WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com <http://ptera.com> facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
We have TONS of subs on a bridged (but vlan'd) network, over multiple multiple multiple hops. We don't have PPS issues. Know why? We block torrents. Want to torrent on our network? setup a vpn outside of it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 04/16/2014 07:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *"Art Stephens" *To: *"WISPA General List" *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com <http://ptera.com> facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
about 20k pps. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Mike Lyon" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:03:49 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put > Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... > On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote: > > My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). > > > Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... > > > So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. > > > How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? > > > Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to > > describe your network a bit > > > Bridged ? Routed ? > > > What is doing Traffic Shaping ? > > > How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. > > > I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. > > > :) > > > Regards. > > > Faisal Imtiaz > > > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > 7266 SW 48 Street > > > Miami, FL 33155 > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > > From: "Art Stephens" < asteph...@ptera.com > > > > > > > To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM > > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put > > > > > > Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of > > > these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. > > > > > > What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when > > > they > > > call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed > > > tests > > > to the radios and they look ok. > > > > > > Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. > > > > > > Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to > > > one > > > of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to > > > watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not > > > start. > > > He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. > > > > > > Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the > > > through put down to 500K? > > > > > > We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but > > > need > > > to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. > > > > > > Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Arthur Stephens > > > > > > Senior Networking Technician > > > > > > Ptera Inc. > > > > > > PO Box 135 > > > > > > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > > > > > > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > > > > > > 509-927-7837 > > > > > > ptera.com > > > > > > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > > > > > - > > > > > > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > > > is > > > intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > > > > > > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > > > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are > > > not > > > intended to represent those of the company." > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Wireless mailing list > > > > > > Wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > > > Wireless mailing list > > > Wireless@wispa.org > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
would be nice to do a spin cyclea rinseand dry. maybe i should be doing laundry... - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put I wish radios had a metric like duty cycle. It would tell you what percent of the time the radio is busy, regardless of underlying causes (throughput, interference, etc.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Art Stephens" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:50:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). > > Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... > > So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. > > How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? > > Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have > to describe your network a bit > > Bridged ? Routed ? > What is doing Traffic Shaping ? > > How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. > > I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. > > :) > > Regards. > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------ > > *From: *"Art Stephens" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM > *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put > > Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of > these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. > > What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when > they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed > tests to the radios and they look ok. > > Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. > > Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to > one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried > to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not > start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 > subs. > > Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the > through put down to 500K? > > We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but > need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. > > Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. > > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > - > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
I wish radios had a metric like duty cycle. It would tell you what percent of the time the radio is busy, regardless of underlying causes (throughput, interference, etc.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Art Stephens" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:50:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
i am interested in this as well - in canopy, there is an overload counter and some other things we can look at not sure what to look at from a ubnt standpoint - although i know with 5.6 beta there are more snmp things you can monitor (as in - SOME snmp readable items at all) we have an access point with 19 on it currentlyi don't think we have any with more than 19 - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- From: "Art Stephens" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Art Stephens" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put > Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of > these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. > What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they > call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests > to the radios and they look ok. > Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. > Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one > of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to > watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. > He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. > Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the > through put down to 500K? > We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need > to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. > Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > - > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is > intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless