Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Also note that 333s are going by the wayside too. The 400 series is really the main workhorse right now. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/* The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Kevin Neal wrote: http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008pps.pdf Well, pps wise, it looks like the 433 is around 80kpps and the 433 ah is around 140kpps. Best performance pps that the 333 can do is 80kpps. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Kevin's link http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf says the 333 dominates over the 532 (per MikroTik's testing) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Thanks for all the comments... I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service. I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct lighting strike. I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless. I'm mainly looking for pps differences between the 333 and 433. Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
We usually use proprietary radios for customer hookups, but do ocassionally use MTs for that. It doesn't really matter too much for that sort of use; used 532, 333, 433, crossroads, etc... For absolutely everywhere we'd use an RB, we are only using 433AH for new stuff. They are not that much more than 433's, substantially faster, have voltage measurement capabilities, and still draw very little power. If you want fast booting, try running routerOS on XEN. I can fully reboot a virtual routeros PC in a couple seconds. On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:55:09PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
333 is junk all around, quick or not. How many 3xx boards do you see? 532 is extremely fast but has a long history of losing the ethernet half of eth1. There are many people including myself that had to climb up many towers to put two pairs on eth2 because this. 433 is good. Nothing stands out. I had one where it was losing ethernet link but it may have just been a loose cable - reseated it to the switch and it's been find for months. On 7/8/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
The 333 boards are crap. We installed about 15 of them before we realized all the problems (overheating, flaky ethernet, etc.). We have over 1,000 of the RB411's installed and they work great. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
411 and 433 are the same short of two extra ethernet ports and mini pci afaik. I'm with Travis though, many 411 CPEs. On 7/8/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: The 333 boards are crap. We installed about 15 of them before we realized all the problems (overheating, flaky ethernet, etc.). We have over 1,000 of the RB411's installed and they work great. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
If I call, the RB600 boots in about 6 seconds from the time the power is applied to the time you get the beeps. We had a link that one of the boards was bad, and was rebooting 4 or 5 times a day, but we never noticed it because it would reboot so fast... Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Never had a rb600 or rb1000 but IIRC the 532 was about that quick too... I have a 532 with a busted radio in it on my desk. I'll time it tomorrow! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If I call, the RB600 boots in about 6 seconds from the time the power is applied to the time you get the beeps. We had a link that one of the boards was bad, and was rebooting 4 or 5 times a day, but we never noticed it because it would reboot so fast... Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
But does boot time correlate with PPS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Here's one with the 532 incuded. http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: But does boot time correlate with PPS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Thanks for all the comments... I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service. I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct lighting strike. I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless. I'm mainly looking for pps differences between the 333 and 433. Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Kevin's link http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf says the 333 dominates over the 532 (per MikroTik's testing) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Thanks for all the comments... I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service. I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct lighting strike. I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless. I'm mainly looking for pps differences between the 333 and 433. Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008pps.pdf Well, pps wise, it looks like the 433 is around 80kpps and the 433 ah is around 140kpps. Best performance pps that the 333 can do is 80kpps. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Kevin's link http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf says the 333 dominates over the 532 (per MikroTik's testing) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Thanks for all the comments... I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service. I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct lighting strike. I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless. I'm mainly looking for pps differences between the 333 and 433. Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
