Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-18 Thread Chris Fabien 
Been very happy with Vertical and Primus cable, have some vertical 4+ years
and still looks fine, just slightly faded.
I will say that the replacement tough cable we got from UBNT on RMA appears
to be holding up OK. But I'm not taking a chance with them agian.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> If you have the green cable make sure you DEMAND an RMA.
>
>
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> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM, heith petersen  wrote:
>
>>   Great. I just kind of put it out of my mind after the few issues we
>> had, then reading about lawsuits and such
>>
>>  *From:* Randy Cosby 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:46 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
>>
>> If you were using "level 1" or "level 2" toughcable, that's an old,
>> discontinued product and is completely different than the "pro" or
>> "carrier" versions.
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/2013 1:23 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>
>>  I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable
>> for months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our
>> partner on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office
>> for an install out in the field
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM
>> *To:* dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
>>
>>  Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very
>> good and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier
>> is in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4"
>> second shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
>>
>>> I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
>>> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
>>> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
>>> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
>>> but like the UBNT more.
>>>
>>> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green
>>> gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
>>> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
>>> box now!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
>>>> using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are
>>>> hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others
>>>> were using for something easier to work with
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> heith
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
If you have the green cable make sure you DEMAND an RMA.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   Great. I just kind of put it out of my mind after the few issues we
> had, then reading about lawsuits and such
>
>  *From:* Randy Cosby 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:46 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
>
> If you were using "level 1" or "level 2" toughcable, that's an old,
> discontinued product and is completely different than the "pro" or
> "carrier" versions.
>
>
> On 9/17/2013 1:23 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>
>  I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable
> for months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our
> partner on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office
> for an install out in the field
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM
> *To:* dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
>
>  Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very
> good and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier
> is in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4"
> second shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>
>> I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
>> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
>> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
>> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
>> but like the UBNT more.
>>
>> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green
>> gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
>> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
>> box now!!!
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
>>> using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are
>>> hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others
>>> were using for something easier to work with
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> heith
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread heith petersen 
Great. I just kind of put it out of my mind after the few issues we had, then 
reading about lawsuits and such

From: Randy Cosby 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

If you were using "level 1" or "level 2" toughcable, that's an old, 
discontinued product and is completely different than the "pro" or "carrier" 
versions.



On 9/17/2013 1:23 PM, heith petersen wrote:

  I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable for 
months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our partner 
on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office for an install 
out in the field

  From: Clay Stewart 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM
  To: dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

  Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good and 
we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is in using 
UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4" second shield as the 
cable is too thick at the outer jacket.



  On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential installs.  
 Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box is a bit heavy 
- a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.  The Carrier version 
is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.

In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey 
flakes after being in the sun  a few days. 




On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the 
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a box 
now!!!


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen  
wrote:

Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using 
more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked on 
the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were using for 
something easier to work with

thanks
heith 

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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Andy Trimmell 
I've been using Primus cable from CTI. I love it.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

 

I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable for 
months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our partner 
on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office for an install 
out in the field

 

From: Clay Stewart <mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM

To: dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>  

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

 

Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good and 
we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is in using 
UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4" second shield as the 
cable is too thick at the outer jacket.

 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential installs.   
Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box is a bit heavy 
- a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.  The Carrier version 
is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.

In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey 
flakes after being in the sun  a few days. 

 

On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the 
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a box 
now!!!

 


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
 wrote:

Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using 
more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked on 
the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were using for 
something easier to work with

 

thanks

heith 


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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Cosby 
If you were using "level 1" or "level 2" toughcable, that's an old, 
discontinued product and is completely different than the "pro" or 
"carrier" versions.



On 9/17/2013 1:23 PM, heith petersen wrote:
I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable 
for months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don't know if I could sell 
our partner on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the 
office for an install out in the field

*From:* Clay Stewart <mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM
*To:* dco...@infowest.com <mailto:dco...@infowest.com> ; WISPA General 
List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>

*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very 
good and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the 
Carrier is in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on 
a 1/4" second shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket.



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby <mailto:dco...@infowest.com>> wrote:


I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and
flexibility.  The box is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier
for installers to work with. The Carrier version is overkill with
two shields. We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.

In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into
green gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.


On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and
the plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not,
is actually a box now!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen
mailto:he...@mn-wireless.com>> wrote:

Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking
at using more or all shielded cable at residential installs.
Currently we are hooked on the tower cable that we use, but
was curious as to what others were using for something easier
to work with
thanks
heith

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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
Well...now that you say it suggestively, I see the problem.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> I am so trying to be professional here, "He's tiny compared to me and I'm
> tiny compared to most of you guys."
>
> Tough.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> If my installer and me can carry the box, so can you guys.  He's tiny
>> compared to me and I'm tiny compared to most of you guys.
>>
>> Now if the 500' spool was <50% in price I'd have no problem with that =)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
>>
>>>  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
>>> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
>>> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
>>> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
>>> but like the UBNT more.
>>>
>>> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green
>>> gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
>>> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
>>> box now!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
 using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are
 hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others
 were using for something easier to work with

 thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread heith petersen 
I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable for 
months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our partner 
on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office for an install 
out in the field

From: Clay Stewart 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM
To: dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good and 
we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is in using 
UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4" second shield as the 
cable is too thick at the outer jacket.



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential installs.   
Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box is a bit heavy 
- a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.  The Carrier version 
is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.

  In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey 
flakes after being in the sun  a few days. 




  On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the 
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a box 
now!!!


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen  
wrote:

  Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using 
more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked on 
the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were using for 
something easier to work with

  thanks
  heith 

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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Clay Stewart 
I am so trying to be professional here, "He's tiny compared to me and I'm
tiny compared to most of you guys."

Tough.




On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> If my installer and me can carry the box, so can you guys.  He's tiny
> compared to me and I'm tiny compared to most of you guys.
>
> Now if the 500' spool was <50% in price I'd have no problem with that =)
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>
>>  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
>> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
>> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
>> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
>> but like the UBNT more.
>>
>> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green
>> gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
>> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
>> box now!!!
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
>>> using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are
>>> hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others
>>> were using for something easier to work with
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>  heith
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Clay Stewart 
Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good
and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is
in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4" second
shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

>  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
> but like the UBNT more.
>
> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey
> flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>
>
> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
> box now!!!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen wrote:
>
>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using
>> more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked
>> on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were
>> using for something easier to work with
>>
>> thanks
>>  heith
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
If my installer and me can carry the box, so can you guys.  He's tiny
compared to me and I'm tiny compared to most of you guys.

Now if the 500' spool was <50% in price I'd have no problem with that =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

>  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
> but like the UBNT more.
>
> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey
> flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>
>
> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
> box now!!!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen wrote:
>
>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using
>> more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked
>> on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were
>> using for something easier to work with
>>
>> thanks
>>  heith
>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Cosby 
I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential 
installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility. The 
box is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work 
with.  The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like 
shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.


In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green 
gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.



On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the 
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is 
actually a box now!!!



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
mailto:he...@mn-wireless.com>> wrote:


Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
using more or all shielded cable at residential installs.
Currently we are hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was
curious as to what others were using for something easier to work with
thanks
heith

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[WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Heith Petersen 
Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using more or 
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Reed 

Shireen

On 9/17/2013 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen wrote:
Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using 
more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are 
hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what 
others were using for something easier to work with

thanks
heith


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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
box now!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen wrote:

>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using
> more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked
> on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were
> using for something easier to work with
>
> thanks
> heith
>
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