Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-10 Thread Jon Langeler
Does the Radwin have spectrum management tools like Motorola high speed 
backhauls?

Thanks
-Jon

3-dB Networks wrote:
> The RadWin radio will do it in one 20MHz channel (one V-pol and one H-pol)..
> Plus it's a full solution. no build it yourself.
>
>  
>
> But you can't beat the price of Mikrotik
>
>  
>
> Daniel White
>
> 3-dB Networks
>
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>  
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:13 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>  
>
> The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean
> spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH with a
> couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated antenna that will
> hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal antennas in the same
> enclosure
> (http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-5
> 8-R2)
>
> 2 x RB433AH
> 4 x SR5 cards
> 2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails
>
> I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple hours to
> build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The only real
> challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. However, I would
> think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz bands without a problem.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Ryan Ghering wrote: 
>
> ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
> 40 to 50 meg full duplex.
> and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
> get the bid for this project if
> I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
> not sure I can make it happen
> do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
> that microtik has a unit they say can do
> 60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
> experiance with them?
>  
> Ryan
>  
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  
>   
>
> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>  
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  <mailto:wi...@3-db.net>
>  wrote:
>  
> 
>
> An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>   
>
> cheaper...
> 
>
> PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
>   
>
> but
> 
>
> that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>  
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>  
>  
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>  
> The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
> a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> find for this kind of bandwidth.
>  
> Travis
> Microserv
>  
> Ryan Ghering wrote:
> 
>
> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
>   
>
> is
> 
>
> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
>   
>
> capacity?
> 
>
> Thanks
> Ryan
>  
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Yes... any licensed solution is the next step (well the PtP 500 Full would
be cheaper than the licensed stuff too... and it is a much better radio from
an RF standpoint I think)

A PtP 600 will do it... but it costs more than the
Dragonwave/Trango/Cablefree/Nera links out there.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:24 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>oh, okay, then yes, it'll work.  ;-)
>
>Anything faster than this radio and your best bet is a Trango or
>Dragonwave
>licensed product, correct? (I don't care about which is better, Trango
>or
>DragonWave.)
>
>
>-
>Mike Hammett
>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
>--
>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:20 PM
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>> Right... but the customer changed the specification to 50Mb FDX on
>him...
>> so
>> now it works :-)
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>On
>>>Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>
>>>Won't it only do 50 meg FDX?
>>>
>>>
>>>-
>>>Mike Hammett
>>>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:49 AM
>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>
>>>> Ryan,
>>>>
>>>> The new RAD RW2000 will do that... hit me offlist for a quote
>>>>
>>>> Daniel White
>>>> 3-dB Networks
>>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>>
>>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>On
>>>>>Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:39 PM
>>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>>>
>>>>>ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they
>only
>>>>>NEED
>>>>>40 to 50 meg full duplex.
>>>>>and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today
>>>>>that I
>>>>>get the bid for this project if
>>>>>I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of
>>>profit,
>>>>>I'm
>>>>>not sure I can make it happen
>>>>>do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs.
>I
>>>>>see
>>>>>that microtik has a unit they say can do
>>>>>60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
>>>>>experiance with them?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly
>>>more?
>>>>>> -RickG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks 
>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>>>>>> cheaper...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do
>>>>>it...
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Daniel White
>>>>>> > 3-dB Networks
>>>>>> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >-Original Message-
>>>>>> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread Mike Hammett
oh, okay, then yes, it'll work.  ;-)

Anything faster than this radio and your best bet is a Trango or Dragonwave 
licensed product, correct? (I don't care about which is better, Trango or 
DragonWave.)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "3-dB Networks" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:20 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

> Right... but the customer changed the specification to 50Mb FDX on him... 
> so
> now it works :-)
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>
>>Won't it only do 50 meg FDX?
>>
>>
>>-
>>Mike Hammett
>>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>>--------------
>>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:49 AM
>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>
>>> Ryan,
>>>
>>> The new RAD RW2000 will do that... hit me offlist for a quote
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>> 3-dB Networks
>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>On
>>>>Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:39 PM
>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>>
>>>>ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only
>>>>NEED
>>>>40 to 50 meg full duplex.
>>>>and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today
>>>>that I
>>>>get the bid for this project if
>>>>I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of
>>profit,
>>>>I'm
>>>>not sure I can make it happen
>>>>do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I
>>>>see
>>>>that microtik has a unit they say can do
>>>>60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
>>>>experiance with them?
>>>>
>>>>Ryan
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly
>>more?
>>>>> -RickG
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks 
>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>>>>> cheaper...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do
>>>>it...
>>>>> but
>>>>> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Daniel White
>>>>> > 3-dB Networks
>>>>> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >-Original Message-
>>>>> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>>>>boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>>> > >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
>>>>> > >To: WISPA General List
>>>>> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At
>>>>$11,000 for
>>>>> > >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going
>>>>to
>>>>> > >find for this kind of bandwidth.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Travis
>>>>> > >Microserv
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>>>> > >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile.
>>Unlicensed
>

Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Right... but the customer changed the specification to 50Mb FDX on him... so
now it works :-)

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com

>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>Won't it only do 50 meg FDX?
>
>
>-
>Mike Hammett
>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
>--
>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:49 AM
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> The new RAD RW2000 will do that... hit me offlist for a quote
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>On
>>>Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:39 PM
>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>
>>>ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only
>>>NEED
>>>40 to 50 meg full duplex.
>>>and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today
>>>that I
>>>get the bid for this project if
>>>I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of
>profit,
>>>I'm
>>>not sure I can make it happen
>>>do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I
>>>see
>>>that microtik has a unit they say can do
>>>60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
>>>experiance with them?
>>>
>>>Ryan
>>>
>>>On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly
>more?
>>>> -RickG
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks 
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>>>> cheaper...
>>>> >
>>>> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do
>>>it...
>>>> but
>>>> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>>>> >
>>>> > Daniel White
>>>> > 3-dB Networks
>>>> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >-Original Message-
>>>> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>>>boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> > >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
>>>> > >To: WISPA General List
>>>> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>>> > >
>>>> > >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At
>>>$11,000 for
>>>> > >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going
>>>to
>>>> > >find for this kind of bandwidth.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Travis
>>>> > >Microserv
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>>> > >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile.
>Unlicensed
>>>gear
>>>> > >is
>>>> > >> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
>>>> > >> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has
>>>this
>>>> > >capacity?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Thanks
>>>> > >> Ryan
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ---
>--
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Won't it only do 50 meg FDX?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "3-dB Networks" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:49 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

> Ryan,
>
> The new RAD RW2000 will do that... hit me offlist for a quote
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:39 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>
>>ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only
>>NEED
>>40 to 50 meg full duplex.
>>and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today
>>that I
>>get the bid for this project if
>>I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit,
>>I'm
>>not sure I can make it happen
>>do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I
>>see
>>that microtik has a unit they say can do
>>60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
>>experiance with them?
>>
>>Ryan
>>
>>On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>>>
>>> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>>> cheaper...
>>> >
>>> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do
>>it...
>>> but
>>> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>>> >
>>> > Daniel White
>>> > 3-dB Networks
>>> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >-Original Message-
>>> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>>boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> > >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
>>> > >To: WISPA General List
>>> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>>> > >
>>> > >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At
>>$11,000 for
>>> > >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going
>>to
>>> > >find for this kind of bandwidth.
>>> > >
>>> > >Travis
>>> > >Microserv
>>> > >
>>> > >Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>> > >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed
>>gear
>>> > >is
>>> > >> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
>>> > >> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has
>>this
>>> > >capacity?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks
>>> > >> Ryan
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> -
>>-
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread RickG
Sure, Mikrotik for under $1,000. How much more does a pre-built solution
have to cost anyways?
-RickG

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:50 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

> The RadWin radio will do it in one 20MHz channel (one V-pol and one
> H-pol)..
> Plus it's a full solution. no build it yourself.
>
>
>
> But you can't beat the price of Mikrotik
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> 3-dB Networks
>
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:13 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>
>
> The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean
> spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH with a
> couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated antenna that
> will
> hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal antennas in the same
> enclosure
> (
> http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-5
> 8-R2<http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-5%0A8-R2>
> )
>
> 2 x RB433AH
> 4 x SR5 cards
> 2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails
>
> I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple hours
> to
> build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The only real
> challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. However, I would
> think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz bands without a problem.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Ryan Ghering wrote:
>
> ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
> 40 to 50 meg full duplex.
> and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
> get the bid for this project if
> I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
> not sure I can make it happen
> do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
> that microtik has a unit they say can do
> 60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
> experiance with them?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  <mailto:wi...@3-db.net>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>
>
> cheaper...
>
>
> PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
>
>
> but
>
>
> that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
> The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
> a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> find for this kind of bandwidth.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Ryan Ghering wrote:
>
>
> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
>
>
> is
>
>
> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
>
>
> capacity?
>
>
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
>
> --
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
The RadWin radio will do it in one 20MHz channel (one V-pol and one H-pol)..
Plus it's a full solution. no build it yourself.

 

But you can't beat the price of Mikrotik

 

Daniel White

3-dB Networks

http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

 

The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean
spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH with a
couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated antenna that will
hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal antennas in the same
enclosure
(http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-5
8-R2)

2 x RB433AH
4 x SR5 cards
2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails

I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple hours to
build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The only real
challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. However, I would
think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz bands without a problem.

Travis
Microserv

Ryan Ghering wrote: 

ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
40 to 50 meg full duplex.
and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
get the bid for this project if
I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
not sure I can make it happen
do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
that microtik has a unit they say can do
60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
experiance with them?
 
Ryan
 
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
  

Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
-RickG
 
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  <mailto:wi...@3-db.net>
 wrote:
 


An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
  

cheaper...


PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
  

but


that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
 
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
 
 
  

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
 
The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
find for this kind of bandwidth.
 
Travis
Microserv
 
Ryan Ghering wrote:


I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
  

is


preferred as this is a low budget hop.
Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
  

capacity?


Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Ryan,

The new RAD RW2000 will do that... hit me offlist for a quote

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>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:39 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only
>NEED
>40 to 50 meg full duplex.
>and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today
>that I
>get the bid for this project if
>I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit,
>I'm
>not sure I can make it happen
>do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I
>see
>that microtik has a unit they say can do
>60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
>experiance with them?
>
>Ryan
>
>On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>>
>> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>> cheaper...
>> >
>> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do
>it...
>> but
>> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>> >
>> > Daniel White
>> > 3-dB Networks
>> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> >
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>boun...@wispa.org] On
>> > >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
>> > >To: WISPA General List
>> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>> > >
>> > >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At
>$11,000 for
>> > >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going
>to
>> > >find for this kind of bandwidth.
>> > >
>> > >Travis
>> > >Microserv
>> > >
>> > >Ryan Ghering wrote:
>> > >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed
>gear
>> > >is
>> > >> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
>> > >> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has
>this
>> > >capacity?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks
>> > >> Ryan
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread Mike Hammett
It will only do 50 FDX, not 100 FDX.


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From: "Adam Greene" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:35 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

> You might look into the Radwin RW-2000 ... speeds and price may be in the 
> range ... 5.x GHz
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:12 AM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>
>  The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean 
> spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH with 
> a couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated antenna that 
> will hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal antennas in the 
> same enclosure 
> (http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-58-R2)
>
>  2 x RB433AH
>  4 x SR5 cards
>  2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails
>
>  I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple hours 
> to build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The only real 
> challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. However, I would 
> think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz bands without a problem.
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Ryan Ghering wrote:
> ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
> 40 to 50 meg full duplex.
> and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that 
> I
> get the bid for this project if
> I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, 
> I'm
> not sure I can make it happen
> do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
> that microtik has a unit they say can do
> 60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
> experiance with them?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>  Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>
>An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>  cheaper...
>PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
>  but
>that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
> The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
> a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> find for this kind of bandwidth.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Ryan Ghering wrote:
>I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed 
> gear
>  is
>preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
>  capacity?
>Thanks
> Ryan
>
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread Gino Villarini
AN80 would peak at about 70 mbps hdx..?? Have you seen more out of it? 


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John McDowell
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

I'd use redline an80

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Adam Greene 
wrote:

> You might look into the Radwin RW-2000 ... speeds and price may be in 
> the range ... 5.x GHz
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:12 AM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>
>  The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean

> spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH 
> with a couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated 
> antenna that will hold all of this, and provide vertical and 
> horizontal antennas in the same enclosure (
> http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-1
> 9DP-58-R2
> )
>
>  2 x RB433AH
>  4 x SR5 cards
>  2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails
>
>  I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple 
> hours to build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The 
> only real challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. 
> However, I would think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz
bands without a problem.
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Ryan Ghering wrote:
> ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only 
> NEED 40 to 50 meg full duplex.
> and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today 
> that I get the bid for this project if I can do it for under 5 grand. 
> So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm not sure I can make it 
> happen do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these 
> specs. I see that microtik has a unit they say can do 60 to 80 meg. 
> but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have experiance with

> them?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>  Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>
>An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>  cheaper...
>PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do
it...
>  but
>that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
> The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 
> for a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going 
> to find for this kind of bandwidth.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Ryan Ghering wrote:
>I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. 
> Unlicensed gear
>  is
>preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
>  capacity?
>Thanks
> Ryan
>
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread John McDowell
I'd use redline an80

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Adam Greene  wrote:

> You might look into the Radwin RW-2000 ... speeds and price may be in the
> range ... 5.x GHz
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:12 AM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>
>  The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean
> spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH with a
> couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated antenna that will
> hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal antennas in the same
> enclosure (
> http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-58-R2
> )
>
>  2 x RB433AH
>  4 x SR5 cards
>  2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails
>
>  I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple hours
> to build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The only real
> challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. However, I would
> think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz bands without a problem.
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Ryan Ghering wrote:
> ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
> 40 to 50 meg full duplex.
> and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
> get the bid for this project if
> I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
> not sure I can make it happen
> do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
> that microtik has a unit they say can do
> 60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
> experiance with them?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>  Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>
>An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
>  cheaper...
>PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
>  but
>that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
> The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
> a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> find for this kind of bandwidth.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Ryan Ghering wrote:
>I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed
> gear
>  is
>preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
>  capacity?
>Thanks
> Ryan
>
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-05 Thread Adam Greene
You might look into the Radwin RW-2000 ... speeds and price may be in the range 
... 5.x GHz 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed


  The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean 
spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH with a 
couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated antenna that will 
hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal antennas in the same 
enclosure 
(http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-58-R2)

  2 x RB433AH
  4 x SR5 cards
  2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails

  I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple hours to 
build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The only real challenge 
will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels. However, I would think that could 
be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz bands without a problem.

  Travis
  Microserv

  Ryan Ghering wrote: 
ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
40 to 50 meg full duplex.
and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
get the bid for this project if
I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
not sure I can make it happen
do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
that microtik has a unit they say can do
60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
experiance with them?

Ryan

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:

  Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
  cheaper...
PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
  but
that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


  -Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
find for this kind of bandwidth.

Travis
Microserv

Ryan Ghering wrote:
I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
  is
preferred as this is a low budget hop.
Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
  capacity?
Thanks
Ryan


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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread lists
StarOS will meet the specs of what you need to do.  Two X4000 radios with 
dual pol panels will run full-duplex around the 50-55meg level. 

http://www.star-os.com/store/ 

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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Travis Johnson




The Mikrotik solution can be done... but you will need a lot of clean
spectrum to make it happen. At only a mile, you could use an RB433AH
with a couple SR5 cards on each side. There is even an integrated
antenna that will hold all of this, and provide vertical and horizontal
antennas in the same enclosure
(http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AT-19DP-58-R2)

2 x RB433AH
4 x SR5 cards
2 x dual pol antenna enclosures with pigtails

I would estimate total cost of parts to be less than $800. A couple
hours to build, test and configure and you should be good to go. The
only real challenge will be finding two open 40mhz wide channels.
However, I would think that could be done in the 5.3ghz and 5.4ghz
bands without a problem.

Travis
Microserv

Ryan Ghering wrote:

  ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
40 to 50 meg full duplex.
and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
get the bid for this project if
I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
not sure I can make it happen
do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
that microtik has a unit they say can do
60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
experiance with them?

Ryan

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:

  
  
Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:



  An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
  

cheaper...


  PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
  

but


  that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


  
  
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
find for this kind of bandwidth.

Travis
Microserv

Ryan Ghering wrote:


  I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
  

is


  preferred as this is a low budget hop.
Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
  

capacity?


  Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Brad Belton
I've seen Terabridge 5845's listed for $3000.00.  That radio is a true no
bullshit 45Mbps FDX radio.  We've had several in use over the years and they
are pretty awesome...<1ms latency, etc, etc.  They used to be $10k - $15k
radios during their prime.  IMO, they are still superior to most any other
UL PtP radio.

We've been pulling them down and replacing them with licensed links
primarily due to capacity needs.  45Mbps doesn't do us much good these days
when our clients are looking for 100Mbps+...but it's a good problem to have!

http://cgi.ebay.com/PROXIM-TERABRIDGE-5845-LINK-KIT-w-CABLES-POWER-NEW_W0QQi
temZ140304191357

Whenever I get some time I'll start posting our used Terabridges for sale at
attractive prices.  They will make great spares to the new units bizsyscon
is selling.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
40 to 50 meg full duplex.
and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
get the bid for this project if
I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
not sure I can make it happen
do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
that microtik has a unit they say can do
60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
experiance with them?

Ryan

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:

> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>
> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
> cheaper...
> >
> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
> but
> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
> >
> > Daniel White
> > 3-dB Networks
> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> >
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> > >To: WISPA General List
> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
> > >
> > >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000
for
> > >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> > >find for this kind of bandwidth.
> > >
> > >Travis
> > >Microserv
> > >
> > >Ryan Ghering wrote:
> > >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
> > >is
> > >> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> > >> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
> > >capacity?
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> > >> Ryan
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Ryan Ghering
ok after talking with the client they have informed me that they only NEED
40 to 50 meg full duplex.
and they are very price conscious as well. I was informed late today that I
get the bid for this project if
I can do it for under 5 grand. So with labor and a small bit of profit, I'm
not sure I can make it happen
do the unlicensed products like microtik or staros meet these specs. I see
that microtik has a unit they say can do
60 to 80 meg. but whats the real bandwidth like and does anyone have
experiance with them?

Ryan

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, RickG  wrote:

> Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:
>
> > An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly
> cheaper...
> >
> > PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it...
> but
> > that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
> >
> > Daniel White
> > 3-dB Networks
> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> >
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
> > >To: WISPA General List
> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
> > >
> > >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
> > >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> > >find for this kind of bandwidth.
> > >
> > >Travis
> > >Microserv
> > >
> > >Ryan Ghering wrote:
> > >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
> > >is
> > >> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> > >> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
> > >capacity?
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread RickG
Why would you go unlicensed if you can go licensed for slightly more?
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

> An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly cheaper...
>
> PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it... but
> that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.
>
> Daniel White
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> >-Original Message-
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> >Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
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> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
> >
> >The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
> >a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
> >find for this kind of bandwidth.
> >
> >Travis
> >Microserv
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> >Ryan Ghering wrote:
> >> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
> >is
> >> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
> >> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread 3-dB Networks
An unlicensed Dragonwave 24GHz link will get you there slightly cheaper... 

PtP600 is the only unlicensed radio that I know of that could do it... but
that's going to be more expensive than the Dragonwave hop.

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>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:47 PM
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>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
>
>The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for
>a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to
>find for this kind of bandwidth.
>
>Travis
>Microserv
>
>Ryan Ghering wrote:
>> I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear
>is
>> preferred as this is a low budget hop.
>> Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this
>capacity?
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>> Thanks
>> Ryan
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Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Travis Johnson
The most cost effective solution is going to be licensed. At $11,000 for 
a complete link, that's probably the cheapest thing you are going to 
find for this kind of bandwidth.

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[WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed

2009-03-04 Thread Ryan Ghering
I'm in need run a link 100 meg full duplex at 1 mile. Unlicensed gear is
preferred as this is a low budget hop.
Any recommendations for this? Anything like microtik that has this capacity?

Thanks
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