Re: [WISPA] free public wifi
Hi All well I will not touch the legal aspect (here in Italy it's illegal but many municipalities are doing it. Anyway, technically there are some issues to consider: 1) how the users are going to get the credentials (e.g. if you provide on screen scredential, if you send them on the mobile phone, etc.). This usually impacts your costs 2) if your billing platform has a "pay as you go" for the accounts. This depends on which commercial/free solution you are adopting, some platforms do not even consider that you could "give it for free" and they charge accordingly to the number of accounts 3) what "internet" you are providing to end users: are you providing the full internet or just a filtered (e.g. no p2p) internet. Are you providing just email and facebook or you want also youtube/multimedia? 4) if you provide private or public IPs to the end users. Public IPs are precious nowadays 5) the service that the users expect. If they think it's "the same stuff I have at home" well at home you pay 20-30$/months so for sure a "free" (=paid with taxes of the municipality) connection means a lower level of service (speed, etc) 6) how many CONCURRENT users you think will connect which means bandwidth and "hotspot density". 7) if the price includes also the maintenance. Who is going to pay when the service is not working? who is going to fix the devices? 8) who is going to give support if the user cannot log into the internet? are you considering your support guys? 9) are you going to give 24H internet or just 1H/day internet and for how many days? 10) who is going to pay the electrical power fees? are they giving you also the power to run the devices or you have to find your own power plug? (not so silly question belive me some people think microwaves work by magic) On the business model: I would say, there are many models: 1) you want something they have (e.g. towers or places) and you trade 2) you are offering free internet for 1h and then you charge for extra hours per day 3) you want to advertise your service (e.g. fixed internet) and you do it for free So at the bottom line, consider ALL the paranoid details and then add "this and that" to the overall cost. The bad surprises occur if you sign a contract and then you realize it was not detailed enough to provide the service Then once you have the costs, figure out which one best fits for you and them Just my 2 Euro cents :) Paolo > There are a couple of ways to do it. > > You can provide it either by how much bandwidth you will be providing to > the installation, or by how many concurrent users you will be providing > service for. > > If they/you choose bandwidth system, I would charge what you would > charge any other commercial account for that level of service, plus > something on there for the upkeep. > > Concurrent users I would price based on XXX Kbps per user, on the same > commercial structure. Based on what they/you expect the usage to be. > > Thank you, > > Jon Turlington <mailto:j...@ndemand.com> > > AD&S Manager > > NDemand, Inc. <http://www.ndemand.com/> > > Phone: 713-559-9651 > > Fax: 713-559-9700 > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Terry White > *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:04 PM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* [WISPA] free public wifi > > I have been asked by our city to provide free public wifi in a lake/ > park area. has anybody ever done this and charged the city or county to > provide the service. If so how much did you charge? > > Terry White > > United Services > > (800) 585 - 6454 > > twh...@ueci.coop <mailto:twh...@ueci.coop> > > WildBlue <http://www.unitedsky.net/WildBule/index.html> DIRECTV > <http://www.unitedsky.net/DirecTV/index.html> United Sky > <http://www.unitedsky.net/UnitedSky/index.html> > > "Your Local Satellite Professionals" > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] free public wifi
Trade for tower space. On 4/11/2013 1:04 PM, Terry White wrote: I have been asked by our city to provide free public wifi in a lake/ park area. has anybody ever done this and charged the city or county to provide the service. If so how much did you charge? Terry White United Services (800) 585 - 6454 twh...@ueci.coop "Your Local Satellite Professionals" ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6238 - Release Date: 04/11/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] free public wifi
There are a couple of ways to do it. You can provide it either by how much bandwidth you will be providing to the installation, or by how many concurrent users you will be providing service for. If they/you choose bandwidth system, I would charge what you would charge any other commercial account for that level of service, plus something on there for the upkeep. Concurrent users I would price based on XXX Kbps per user, on the same commercial structure. Based on what they/you expect the usage to be. Thank you, Jon Turlington <mailto:j...@ndemand.com> AD&S Manager NDemand, Inc. <http://www.ndemand.com/> Phone: 713-559-9651 Fax: 713-559-9700 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Terry White Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] free public wifi I have been asked by our city to provide free public wifi in a lake/ park area. has anybody ever done this and charged the city or county to provide the service. If so how much did you charge? Terry White United Services (800) 585 - 6454 twh...@ueci.coop <http://www.unitedsky.net/WildBule/index.html> WildBlue <http://www.unitedsky.net/DirecTV/index.html> DIRECTV <http://www.unitedsky.net/UnitedSky/index.html> United Sky "Your Local Satellite Professionals" <><><>___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
Now I would connect to that just to see what kind of a mess I could get into. (Probably using someone else's computer though) Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi I like - FBI Surveillance Van #1 -- Original Message -- From: RickG Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:20:05 -0400 >I woudlnt know but some say it costs to get the "good stuff". > >On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: >> Aren't the two synonymous? >> >> Greg >> >> On May 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, RickG wrote: >> >>> Try "Free Porn" and see how many connect! >>> >>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Robert West >>> wrote: >>>> For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". >>>> The attempts to connect have dropped considerably. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >>>> >>>> ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness >>>> of Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me >>>> break out in hives... >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> Aperto Networks >>>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >>>> >>>> I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. >>>> >>>> I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the >>>> "Free Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft >>>> screw up on the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the >>>> stations so that they can only connect to a AP in the future. But >>>> the "Free Public WiFi" SSID still shows up on the systems even when the >>>> Wireless card is turned off. >>>> I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know >>>> how to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) >>>> >>>> Steve Barnes >>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> - >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> --- >>>> - >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> - >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> --- >>>> - >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> - >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> --- >>>> - >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
I like - FBI Surveillance Van #1 -- Original Message -- From: RickG Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:20:05 -0400 >I woudlnt know but some say it costs to get the "good stuff". > >On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: >> Aren't the two synonymous? >> >> Greg >> >> On May 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, RickG wrote: >> >>> Try "Free Porn" and see how many connect! >>> >>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Robert West >>> wrote: >>>> For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The >>>> attempts to connect have dropped considerably. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >>>> >>>> ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of >>>> Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in >>>> hives... >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> Aperto Networks >>>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >>>> >>>> I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. >>>> >>>> I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free >>>> Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on >>>> the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they >>>> can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID >>>> still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. >>>> I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how >>>> to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) >>>> >>>> Steve Barnes >>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.or
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
I woudlnt know but some say it costs to get the "good stuff". On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > Aren't the two synonymous? > > Greg > > On May 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, RickG wrote: > >> Try "Free Porn" and see how many connect! >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Robert West >> wrote: >>> For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The >>> attempts to connect have dropped considerably. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >>> >>> ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of >>> Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in >>> hives... >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> Aperto Networks >>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >>> >>> I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. >>> >>> I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free >>> Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on >>> the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they >>> can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID >>> still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. >>> I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how >>> to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) >>> >>> Steve Barnes >>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
Aren't the two synonymous? Greg On May 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, RickG wrote: > Try "Free Porn" and see how many connect! > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Robert West > wrote: >> For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The >> attempts to connect have dropped considerably. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Patrick Leary >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >> >> ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of >> Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in >> hives... >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> Aperto Networks >> 813.426.4230 mobile >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >> >> I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. >> >> I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free >> Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on >> the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they >> can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID >> still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. >> I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how >> to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) >> >> Steve Barnes >> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
Try "Free Porn" and see how many connect! On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Robert West wrote: > For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The > attempts to connect have dropped considerably. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of > Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in > hives... > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Barnes > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. > > I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free > Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on > the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they > can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID > still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. > I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how > to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) > > Steve Barnes > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
Someone needs to build that into the Mikrotik. On 5/26/2010 11:53 AM, Robert West wrote: > The genius of that is indescribable. > > It's one thing to fight them off but to simply allow them access then to > mess with them. Priceless. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:43 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > Making images appear upside-down is more fun: > http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html > > Rubens > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Robert West > wrote: > >> For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The >> attempts to connect have dropped considerably. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Patrick Leary >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >> >> ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of >> Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in >> hives... >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> Aperto Networks >> 813.426.4230 mobile >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi >> >> I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. >> >> I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free >> Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on >> the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they >> can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID >> still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. >> I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how >> to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) >> >> Steve Barnes >> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ "As knowledge increases, the verdict of yesterday must be reversed today, and in the long run the most positive authority is the least to be trusted." - Hugh Nibley WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
The genius of that is indescribable. It's one thing to fight them off but to simply allow them access then to mess with them. Priceless. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi Making images appear upside-down is more fun: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html Rubens On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Robert West wrote: > For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The > attempts to connect have dropped considerably. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of > Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in > hives... > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Barnes > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. > > I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free > Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on > the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they > can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID > still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. > I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how > to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) > > Steve Barnes > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
Making images appear upside-down is more fun: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html Rubens On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Robert West wrote: > For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The > attempts to connect have dropped considerably. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of > Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in > hives... > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Barnes > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi > > I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. > > I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free > Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on > the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they > can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID > still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. > I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how > to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) > > Steve Barnes > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
That's hilarious. Genius is found in simplicity. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:10 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The attempts to connect have dropped considerably. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in hives... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of "Virus". The attempts to connect have dropped considerably. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in hives... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
...a little OT, but, after being party to all the "free" craziness of Earthlink, etc. just the title "Free Public Wi-Fi" makes me break out in hives... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi
http://airheads.arubanetworks.com/article/how-wifi-ad-hoc-networks-are-zombi es-or-free-public-wifi-phenomenon-part-2 To stop WZC from doing this you can either turn it off or set it to only use APs. To turn it off for once and all do a Start -> Run and type in "services.msc." Once in the services display, scroll down to Wireless Zero Configuration and right click on it to edit it. There, you'll want to turn it off and set it Startup Type from Automatic to either Manual or disabled. If you want to keep WZC around, you can stop it from using ad hoc networks -- which isn't a bad idea anyway -- by clicking on the System Tray's Wireless icon and heading to the Wireless Network Connection window. Once there, click on "Change advanced settings," and click on the Wireless Network Tab in the Wireless Network Connection Properties window. From here, click on the Advanced button and set it so that it will "Access point (infrastructure) networks only." -- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Steve Barnes Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:05:32 -0400 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Free Public WiFi
I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway. I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the "Free Public WiFi" ssid on them. I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on the Zero Wireless Connections. I have made the stations so that they can only connect to a AP in the future. But the "Free Public WiFi" SSID still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off. I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing. Any one know how to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux) Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
