Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar - $2.75 solution

2009-11-02 Thread Randy Cosby
I came up with a solution for this problem for now. I use West Mountain Radio Rigrunners ( http://www.powerwerx.com/west-mountain-radio/rigrunner-4005.html ) to distribute my voltage and protect my devices on solar installs. Makes for a nice clean, easy-to maintain and troubleshoot install.

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar - $2.75 solution

2009-11-02 Thread Mike
Fine business using the diodes to drop the voltage. Many silicon diodes will show a higher voltage drop as the current increases. Depending on the circuit you were measuring, one with higher current would show a larger drop. That is an innovative use of diode voltage drop. Mike At 04:57 PM

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar - $2.75 solution

2009-11-02 Thread os10rules
Be careful using those diodes at sites where you're colocated with a high powered transmitter. The diodes can do some weird stuff (rectification, mixing) and could become a hidden source of interference/noise. Greg On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Mike wrote: Fine business using the diodes to

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar - $2.75 solution

2009-11-02 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar - $2.75 solution I came up with a solution for this problem for now. I use West Mountain Radio Rigrunners ( http://www.powerwerx.com

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-30 Thread Randy Cosby
Following up on this topic, I've received a couple suggestions for dealing with this on existing equipment. From Mikrotik Support: You should do the following, cut positive wire from the battery and add diode like this

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-29 Thread Blair Davis
good idea, but not too power efficient. Steve wrote: I was not so happy either when I found out the newest line of MT boards didn't work on my already functioning 24vdc system. I have however been successful with a simple LM7818 regulator with a couple of tantalum caps and a good

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-29 Thread Blair Davis
since the product is available. / Eje From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar I want MikroTik to go back

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby
-- From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3t=36191start=0 I'm pulling my hair out and wasting all kinds of money on voltage regulators to make sure my solar and dc-powered sites don't cause mikrotik routerboards to go into over-voltage protection when the batteries get charged over 28v. I'm

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3t=36191start=0 I'm pulling my hair out and wasting all kinds of money on voltage regulators to make sure my solar and dc-powered sites don't cause mikrotik routerboards to go into over

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3t

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess
: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar A couple issues: Wasted energy - these converters can go as low as 75% efficient One more point of failure Often the converters have their own low voltage disconnect - I went 24v to give myself more battery headroom and time if we have problems

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby
] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar A couple issues: Wasted energy - these converters can go as low as 75% efficient One more point of failure Often the converters have

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Scott Reed
I hear your frustration but I would not be yelling at MT. If I bought a regulated power supply that didn't deliver the set voltage I would be all over that manufacturer. Your RouterBoard worked to specification and the power supply didn't. Who is at fault?Really surprises me that it is

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread ccrum
I use some Cincon Part EC4BW12, dc-dc convertors for anywhere I need to power the sub 28v devices. It will take 18-72 v in and output 12 v. I've had to install a lot of these as most of our sites were 48 v. When we started replacing 532's with the 400 series, we had to put one in for every

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby
Looks nice. How do you connect to that? The spec sheet isn't clear, just says it has pins on it. Randy ccrum wrote: I use some Cincon Part EC4BW12, dc-dc convertors for anywhere I need to power the sub 28v devices. It will take 18-72 v in and output 12 v. I've had to install a lot of

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread ccrum
Soldering iron. We just split the cat-5 appropriately, solder the wire on and wrap them up in electrical tape with a Cat-5 jack on one end and an RJ 45 on the other. This way we can just plug-em-in inside the enclosure when we get to the top of the tower. Cameron Randy Cosby wrote: Looks

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Blair Davis
I want MikroTik to go back to 48VDC! Randy Cosby wrote: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3t=36191start=0 I'm pulling my hair out and wasting all kinds of money on voltage regulators to make sure my solar and dc-powered sites don't cause mikrotik routerboards to go into

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar I want MikroTik to go back to 48VDC! Randy Cosby wrote: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3 http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3t=36191start=0

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Steve
I was not so happy either when I found out the newest line of MT boards didn't work on my already functioning 24vdc system. I have however been successful with a simple LM7818 regulator with a couple of tantalum caps and a good heatsink to drop voltage from ~26v supply. They are 1 amp, and I am

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-28 Thread Greg Ihnen
At Digikey or Mouser you should be able to find something similar but switching type that has a higher efficiency and current rating. I've used some modules for other voltages and they work great. Greg On 10/28/09 10:18 PM, Steve wrote: I was not so happy either when I found out the newest

[WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Is anyone powering Mikrotiks on Solar? What do you use to keep your solar boost voltage from forcing a shutdown on the Mikrotik? I've used some 24 regulators, but they seem inefficient, and have low voltage disconnects that are sometimes too sensitive - ie: if my battery goes down to 22v, it

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Jayson Baker
Use these: http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-DCDC-1218eq=Tp= On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Is anyone powering Mikrotiks on Solar? What do you use to keep your solar boost voltage from forcing a shutdown on the Mikrotik? I've used some

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Is anyone powering Mikrotiks on Solar? What do you use to keep your solar boost voltage from forcing a shutdown on the Mikrotik? I've used some 24 regulators, but they seem inefficient, and have low voltage disconnects that are sometimes too

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the amp rating is for that? Jayson Baker wrote: Use these: http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-DCDC-1218eq=Tp= On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Jayson Baker
A quick check of the Tycon Power website: http://www.tyconpower.com/products/files/TPS_DC_DC_Converter_Spec_Sheet.pdf On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Is anyone powering Mikrotiks on Solar? What do you use to keep your solar boost voltage from forcing a shutdown on the Mikrotik? I've used some 24 regulators, but they seem inefficient, and have low voltage disconnects that are sometimes too sensitive - ie

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Gino Villarini
:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the amp rating is for that? Jayson Baker wrote: Use these: http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TP

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the amp rating is for that? Jayson Baker wrote: Use these: http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Wallace
Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Is anyone powering

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
...@infowest.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the amp rating is for that? Jayson Baker

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
-- From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen