RE: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
Every feature discussed in this thread is available in the mikrotik OS/CPE, while I agree the completed cpe costs are costly at around $350 at 5ghz --- Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Mark Koskenmaki > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:42 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > No, I'm not. > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > - > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:52 PM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > So basically your talking about a Mikrotik CPE w/ atheros radio at 5ghz, > 2.4ghz > > or the coming 900mhz radio running on rb532 SBC > > > > Dan Metcalf > > Wireless Broadband Systems > > www.wbisp.com > > 781-566-2053 ext 6201 > > 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > > Of Mark Koskenmaki > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:42 PM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it > did?) > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "WISPA General List" > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it > did?) > > > > > > > > > > Ok dream list. > > > > > > > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > > > > what you mention plus: > > > > > > Ok, 20mbit capability. > > > > > > > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, > 2.4ghz, > > > > 5ghz > > > > > > Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of > > > standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > > > > > > > support for higher powered radios > > > > single and dual radio versions > > > > > > Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > > > > > > > QOS > > > > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. > > > > > > This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > > > > > > > firewall > > > > > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but > havent' > > > found it to be a big issue. > > > > > > > port forwarding > > > > > > Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of > public > > > IP's. > > > > > > > dual ethernet > > > > > > What do you use ethernet #2 for? > > > > > > > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc > > > > > > Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > > > > > > > small footprint > > > > > > ok, good addition. > > > > > > > SNMP > > > > > > Good thing. > > > > > > > syslogs and remote syslog > > > > > > How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love > to > > > know. > > > > > > > watchdog, both ping and hardware > > > > > > !!! good :) > > > > > > > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through > syslogs > > > > server) > > > > > > What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a > disconnect, > > > would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > > > > > > > support multiple gateways > > > > > > CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different > AP's > > > for redundancy? > > > > > > > temp range for outside install
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
I don't consider bridging to be an acceptable method of broadband delivery... thus, my insistence on routing at the CPE. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Pete Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > -- > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' > > found it to be a big issue. > > > > > Waverider client bridges (EUMs) port block several ports, including SMB > by default, which is a nice feature, since it keeps the traffic "off the > air" before it gets back to the core router to filter. Port filtering in > the CPE is a nice capability to have, IMO. These ports blocked don't > effect PPPOE connections, but its nice NOT to see every user's shared > printer on the WAN. > > > Pete Davis > NoDial.net > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
No, I'm not. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > So basically your talking about a Mikrotik CPE w/ atheros radio at 5ghz, 2.4ghz > or the coming 900mhz radio running on rb532 SBC > > Dan Metcalf > Wireless Broadband Systems > www.wbisp.com > 781-566-2053 ext 6201 > 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Mark Koskenmaki > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:42 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > > Ok dream list. > > > > > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > > > what you mention plus: > > > > Ok, 20mbit capability. > > > > > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, > > > 5ghz > > > > Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of > > standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > > > > > support for higher powered radios > > > single and dual radio versions > > > > Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > > > > > QOS > > > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. > > > > This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > > > > > firewall > > > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' > > found it to be a big issue. > > > > > port forwarding > > > > Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of public > > IP's. > > > > > dual ethernet > > > > What do you use ethernet #2 for? > > > > > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc > > > > Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > > > > > small footprint > > > > ok, good addition. > > > > > SNMP > > > > Good thing. > > > > > syslogs and remote syslog > > > > How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love to > > know. > > > > > watchdog, both ping and hardware > > > > !!! good :) > > > > > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs > > > server) > > > > What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a disconnect, > > would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > > > > > support multiple gateways > > > > CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different AP's > > for redundancy? > > > > > temp range for outside installations > > > > A given, but, yeah, good spec to have. > > > > > > > > as you asked Mark dream list. > > > > Awesome. Thanks. As I sit wondering how to achieve that parity with DSL > > or Cable, so that I can have no large "install" cost hurdle and grow rapidly > > without any more cash binds than I'm in right now...I figured I'd see > > what everone wanted in a CPE. Not to evangelize a network type or > > particular maker's system, but just generically, to see what things people > > think are important... (or, "what the heck am I missing, here...") > > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > -- -- > > - > > > > > > > > Tim Kerns > > > CV-Access, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Origin
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: -- What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' found it to be a big issue. Waverider client bridges (EUMs) port block several ports, including SMB by default, which is a nice feature, since it keeps the traffic "off the air" before it gets back to the core router to filter. Port filtering in the CPE is a nice capability to have, IMO. These ports blocked don't effect PPPOE connections, but its nice NOT to see every user's shared printer on the WAN. Pete Davis NoDial.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
So basically your talking about a Mikrotik CPE w/ atheros radio at 5ghz, 2.4ghz or the coming 900mhz radio running on rb532 SBC Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Mark Koskenmaki > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > Ok dream list. > > > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > > what you mention plus: > > Ok, 20mbit capability. > > > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, > > 5ghz > > Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of > standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > > > support for higher powered radios > > single and dual radio versions > > Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > > > QOS > > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. > > This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > > > firewall > > What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' > found it to be a big issue. > > > port forwarding > > Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of public > IP's. > > > dual ethernet > > What do you use ethernet #2 for? > > > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc > > Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > > > small footprint > > ok, good addition. > > > SNMP > > Good thing. > > > syslogs and remote syslog > > How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love to > know. > > > watchdog, both ping and hardware > > !!! good :) > > > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs > > server) > > What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a disconnect, > would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > > > support multiple gateways > > CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different AP's > for redundancy? > > > temp range for outside installations > > A given, but, yeah, good spec to have. > > > > > as you asked Mark dream list. > > Awesome. Thanks. As I sit wondering how to achieve that parity with DSL > or Cable, so that I can have no large "install" cost hurdle and grow rapidly > without any more cash binds than I'm in right now...I figured I'd see > what everone wanted in a CPE. Not to evangelize a network type or > particular maker's system, but just generically, to see what things people > think are important... (or, "what the heck am I missing, here...") > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > - > > > > > Tim Kerns > > CV-Access, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > > > > > What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? > > > > > > My dream list... > > > > > > < $100 without antenna > > > can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer > > > Routing > > > nat > > > DHCP server to client > > > DHCP client to AP > > > bandwidth control > > > Centralized management and configuration > > > centralized or automatic update > > > > > > > > > What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, > > > characteristics > > > of your CPE? > > > > > > Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. > > > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
- Original Message - From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > Ok dream list. > > I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits > what you mention plus: Ok, 20mbit capability. > multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, > 5ghz Ok, but what if we say "flexible wireless standards, by means of standardized replaceable radios"? Would that work? > support for higher powered radios > single and dual radio versions Ok, so you want "relay" capable? Can we state it that way? > QOS > Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. This is included in the "flexible wireless standards" statement... > firewall What do you firewall? I have a small list of ports I firewall, but havent' found it to be a big issue. > port forwarding Why port forwarding? I find it easier to route a small subnet of public IP's. > dual ethernet What do you use ethernet #2 for? > POE - prefer standard 48 vdc Ok, I did not include POE, thanks. > small footprint ok, good addition. > SNMP Good thing. > syslogs and remote syslog How much does this really do? Who has it and who uses it? I'd love to know. > watchdog, both ping and hardware !!! good :) > maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs > server) What would it alert you to? "failure" would be considered a disconnect, would it not, in which case you'd never get the alert... > support multiple gateways CPE? Do you mean, a cpe that has 2 radios that connect to 2 different AP's for redundancy? > temp range for outside installations A given, but, yeah, good spec to have. > > as you asked Mark dream list. Awesome. Thanks. As I sit wondering how to achieve that parity with DSL or Cable, so that I can have no large "install" cost hurdle and grow rapidly without any more cash binds than I'm in right now...I figured I'd see what everone wanted in a CPE. Not to evangelize a network type or particular maker's system, but just generically, to see what things people think are important... (or, "what the heck am I missing, here...") North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - > > Tim Kerns > CV-Access, Inc. > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM > Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) > > > > > > What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? > > > > My dream list... > > > > < $100 without antenna > > can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer > > Routing > > nat > > DHCP server to client > > DHCP client to AP > > bandwidth control > > Centralized management and configuration > > centralized or automatic update > > > > > > What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, > > characteristics > > of your CPE? > > > > Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > > personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > > sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > > Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > > -- -- > > - > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
I think MT's RB112 with the R52 does all this except for the <$100 part. (More like $155). - Original Message - From: "Tim Kerns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) Ok dream list. I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits what you mention plus: multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, 5ghz support for higher powered radios single and dual radio versions QOS Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. firewall port forwarding dual ethernet POE - prefer standard 48 vdc small footprint SNMP syslogs and remote syslog watchdog, both ping and hardware maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs server) support multiple gateways temp range for outside installations as you asked Mark dream list. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? My dream list... < $100 without antenna can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer Routing nat DHCP server to client DHCP client to AP bandwidth control Centralized management and configuration centralized or automatic update What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, characteristics of your CPE? Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)
Ok dream list. I think for future triple play I would make that 20 mbits what you mention plus: multiple freq. by change of radio card .. for today 900 mhz, 2.4ghz, 5ghz support for higher powered radios single and dual radio versions QOS Channel size 5mhz,10mhz etc. firewall port forwarding dual ethernet POE - prefer standard 48 vdc small footprint SNMP syslogs and remote syslog watchdog, both ping and hardware maybe e-mail alerts through self monitoring (could be done through syslogs server) support multiple gateways temp range for outside installations as you asked Mark dream list. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?) What's your CPE do for you... Or what do you WISH it did for you? My dream list... < $100 without antenna can deliver at least 10 mbit to customer Routing nat DHCP server to client DHCP client to AP bandwidth control Centralized management and configuration centralized or automatic update What other things do have or wish your cpe did for you? Or, characteristics of your CPE? Let's not get into dsss vs ofdm vs (insert favorite here) etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
