Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-26 Thread Jim Stout
I run PRTG Traffic Grapher from Paessler (www.paessler.com) and Servers 
Alive (www.woodstone.nu/salive/) for notification.  They both do 
notification but I started with Servers Alive because it's freeware and it 
works.


Jim Stout
LTO Communications, LLC
15701 Henry Andrews Dr
Pleasant Hill, MO 64080
(816) 305-1076 - Mobile
(816) 497-0033 - Pager

- Original Message - 
From: "Jory Privett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:10 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing


I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic on 
network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless equipment.  I 
also would like it to notify me if a device is down either by email or 
preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers would be an added plus.   I 
am curious what others use for this type of application, what they 
like.dislike about it and if they would recommend it to someone else.


Thank you,

Jory Privett
WCCS

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RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-26 Thread Russ Kreigh

We primarily use:

Whats Up Gold Premium v11 
Solarwinds Orion
Cacti
Visualpulse


For anyone who is looking at monitoring infrastructure and their individual
customers, I would strongly suggest taking a look at AdRem NetCrunch.

The new version (v11) of WhatsUp Gold has really come around, it's finally
mature enough to be put in the same league as Openview, it has lots of new
graphing and reporting features. 

Thanks,

Russ Kreigh
Network Engineer
OnlyInternet.Net Broadband & Wireless
Supernova Technologies
Office: (800) 363-0989
Direct: (260) 827-2486
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Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

David E. Smith wrote:
> Jory Privett wrote:
>   
>> I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
>> graphing.
>> 
>
> WhatsUp will do the monitoring and notifications, but at least the 
> version I've got doesn't do graphing. (In all fairness, it's an older 
> version, and MRTG does graphing just fine.)
>
> Nagios works, but is a royal PITA to set up.
>   

Maybe I just do really simple stuff, or maybe I'm just twisted, but I never
found nagios to be all the complicated to setup.  Installed from package,
edited hosts.cfg and services.cfg and you are good to go.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
> Haven't worked with most of the others you mentioned.
>
> I'm seriously getting into Mikrotik's "The Dude" software, actually. I 
> don't think it has an SMS interface, but it can send email (and if 
> your goal is to get the message to a cell phone, most carriers can 
> receive email and convert it to a text message). It combines 
> monitoring and graphing in one really spiffy interface. Oh, and it's 
> free, which is always an important criterion for WISP operations :D
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
>   

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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-26 Thread Sam Tetherow

David E. Smith wrote:

Jory Privett wrote:
  

I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and
graphing.



WhatsUp will do the monitoring and notifications, but at least the
version I've got doesn't do graphing. (In all fairness, it's an older
version, and MRTG does graphing just fine.)

Nagios works, but is a royal PITA to set up.
  


Maybe I just do really simple stuff, or maybe I'm just twisted, but I 
never found nagios to be all the complicated to setup.  Installed from 
package, edited hosts.cfg and services.cfg and you are good to go.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Haven't worked with most of the others you mentioned.

I'm seriously getting into Mikrotik's "The Dude" software, actually. I
don't think it has an SMS interface, but it can send email (and if your
goal is to get the message to a cell phone, most carriers can receive
email and convert it to a text message). It combines monitoring and
graphing in one really spiffy interface. Oh, and it's free, which is
always an important criterion for WISP operations :D

David Smith
MVN.net
  


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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-26 Thread David E. Smith
Jory Privett wrote:
> I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and
> graphing.

WhatsUp will do the monitoring and notifications, but at least the
version I've got doesn't do graphing. (In all fairness, it's an older
version, and MRTG does graphing just fine.)

Nagios works, but is a royal PITA to set up.

Haven't worked with most of the others you mentioned.

I'm seriously getting into Mikrotik's "The Dude" software, actually. I
don't think it has an SMS interface, but it can send email (and if your
goal is to get the message to a cell phone, most carriers can receive
email and convert it to a text message). It combines monitoring and
graphing in one really spiffy interface. Oh, and it's free, which is
always an important criterion for WISP operations :D

David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Sam Tetherow
What are you using with your netflow data?  I've been using nfcapd to 
store the streams to files and then parsing the data with nfdump and 
custom scripts. 

I would like to some other admin's netflow usage.  Right now I use it to 
track bandwidth usage per IP so I can see who is responsible for network 
spikes and also to get a feel for the heavy bandwidth users. 

Storing the flow data has come in handy upon occasion when a user calls 
up and says the network was slow last night and I can pull up their 
traffic for the time period and let them know that they had P2P running 
at that time using a chunk of their bandwidth.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Ryan Langseth wrote:

Nagios for notifications and cacti for graphing.

I am also looking at a pretty nice oss project called zenoss. It has
auto discovery, graphing and notifications. It also does some asset
tracking and other features.  I have not spent alot of time with it yet,
but I did run the auto discovery and catagorize some hard to get the
graphs working. Pretty simple web interface.  


www.zenoss.com
They also have a VMWare image, so if you have vmware player or vmware
server (both free) setup some where you can have it up and running in 10
minutes to try it out.

Also I gather netflow data from my core router, I have not started
graphing yet, but I do create some usage reports from the data.

Ryan

On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 17:10 -0500, Jory Privett wrote:
  
I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic on 
network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless equipment.  I 
also would like it to notify me if a device is down either by email or 
preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers would be an added plus.   I 
am curious what others use for this type of application, what they 
like.dislike about it and if they would recommend it to someone else.


Thank you,

Jory Privett
WCCS




  


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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Price


We use nagios for alerting and caci for graphing and trending.  Let me 
know if you need help with setup or integration.


Mark


Jory Privett wrote:

I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic 
on network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless 
equipment.  I also would like it to notify me if a device is down 
either by email or preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers 
would be an added plus.   I am curious what others use for this type 
of application, what they like.dislike about it and if they would 
recommend it to someone else.


Thank you,

Jory Privett
WCCS



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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Ryan Langseth
Nagios for notifications and cacti for graphing.

I am also looking at a pretty nice oss project called zenoss. It has
auto discovery, graphing and notifications. It also does some asset
tracking and other features.  I have not spent alot of time with it yet,
but I did run the auto discovery and catagorize some hard to get the
graphs working. Pretty simple web interface.  

www.zenoss.com
They also have a VMWare image, so if you have vmware player or vmware
server (both free) setup some where you can have it up and running in 10
minutes to try it out.

Also I gather netflow data from my core router, I have not started
graphing yet, but I do create some usage reports from the data.

Ryan

On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 17:10 -0500, Jory Privett wrote:
> I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
> graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
> WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic on 
> network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless equipment.  I 
> also would like it to notify me if a device is down either by email or 
> preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers would be an added plus.   I 
> am curious what others use for this type of application, what they 
> like.dislike about it and if they would recommend it to someone else.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jory Privett
> WCCS
> 

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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Sam Tetherow
I use nagios and cacti for notification and graphing respectively.  Both 
were simple to set up on a debian box via apt-get.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Jory Privett wrote:
I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic 
on network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless 
equipment.  I also would like it to notify me if a device is down 
either by email or preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers 
would be an added plus.   I am curious what others use for this type 
of application, what they like.dislike about it and if they would 
recommend it to someone else.


Thank you,

Jory Privett
WCCS



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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Steve
I've been using zabbix effectively for those purposes.
Does a good job, has nice template control, soon is supposed to support
auto discovery.
Steve

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Jory Privett wrote:
> I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and
> graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at
> WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic
> on network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless
> equipment.  I also would like it to notify me if a device is down
> either by email or preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers
> would be an added plus.   I am curious what others use for this type
> of application, what they like.dislike about it and if they would
> recommend it to someone else.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jory Privett
> WCCS
>

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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Travis Johnson

WhatsUp and JFFNMS both.

What'sUp is very quick to notify via SMS (I get the messages within 10 
seconds of a host being down). JFF for keeping historical data, etc.


Travis
Microserv

Jory Privett wrote:
I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic 
on network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless 
equipment.  I also would like it to notify me if a device is down 
either by email or preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers 
would be an added plus.   I am curious what others use for this type 
of application, what they like.dislike about it and if they would 
recommend it to someone else.


Thank you,

Jory Privett
WCCS


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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Look at CACTI. It has a steep learning curve, but is open source and 
there is a ton of help in it's forums. We use it to monitor around 4,000 
wireless subscribersincluding access points, switches, routers, mail 
servers, etc. It also has an alert/notification plug-in available that 
will monitor set thresholds. I haven't used that feature yet, I must admit.


Good luck.

-Eric


Jory Privett wrote:
I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and 
graphing.  I have used  MRTG for graphing before.  I have looked at 
WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before.  I want to be able to graph traffic 
on network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless 
equipment.  I also would like it to notify me if a device is down 
either by email or preferably SMS. Monitoring mail and web servers 
would be an added plus.   I am curious what others use for this type 
of application, what they like.dislike about it and if they would 
recommend it to someone else.


Thank you,

Jory Privett
WCCS



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