RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over
Ok to Clarify, here is what EPIC says about MetroFi's Privacy policy: MetroFi proposes an advertising-supported service with a 1 Mbps connection, or the same connection without advertisements for $20 a month. As with many companies operating under self-regulatory privacy norms, MetroFi's privacy statement is contradictory. It claims only to gather anonymous information for the free service, but later on the same page, the company states that its free service collects email addresses and demographic information through surfing behavior and questionnaires. Email addresses are identifiable, personal information. Furthermore, aggregate surfing behavior and questionnaire information can be used to identify individuals. http://www.epic.org/privacy/internet/sfan4306.html Wondering if you had any other thoughts on the Analyst report? -Original Message- From: Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 15 15:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Where do they guarantee anon usage? I have used both Sunnyvale and Santa Clara and had to sign up to use it. No one is going to allow anon usage! Too many things can happen when users do bad things. If you were in this business, you would understand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kimo Crossman Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:16 AM To: 'Marlon K. Schafer'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Yes EarthLink and Google are paying for it, but now as the city looks at the deal compared with what other cities are getting and their direction, questions arise MetroFi is giving 1mb speed free to all and anonymous usage is guaranteed Seattle has embraced Fiber first and only targeted wifi -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 14 20:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Whoa, hold the phone there Haus. I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco! - Original Message - From: "Kimo Crossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over See PDF http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiF iReport_011107.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/yhysne -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over
Where do they guarantee anon usage? I have used both Sunnyvale and Santa Clara and had to sign up to use it. No one is going to allow anon usage! Too many things can happen when users do bad things. If you were in this business, you would understand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kimo Crossman Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:16 AM To: 'Marlon K. Schafer'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Yes EarthLink and Google are paying for it, but now as the city looks at the deal compared with what other cities are getting and their direction, questions arise MetroFi is giving 1mb speed free to all and anonymous usage is guaranteed Seattle has embraced Fiber first and only targeted wifi -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 14 20:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Whoa, hold the phone there Haus. I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco! - Original Message - From: "Kimo Crossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over See PDF http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiF iReport_011107.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/yhysne -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over
It is. SF has no financial investment at all. They just get a free ubiquitous network covering their city, like many other cities already have. As far as the 300k free tier goes, 300 k is fine if you had nothing. What do they think, that the dial up people had free dialup already? Fiber to the prem? Ha. In all of SF? Not in my lifetime. The stuff in there about the $80-200.00 CPE is just bogus. Someone has fed the authors of that report a line of bull! If the contract with the City says building penetration, then that's what EL has to do. Talking about CPEs is putting the cart before the horse a bit. My experience with another town they did has been that there is penetration to 95% of that city's streets, and a good bit inside the homes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Whoa, hold the phone there Haus. I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco! - Original Message - From: "Kimo Crossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over See PDF http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiF iReport_011107.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/yhysne -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
