RE: eInstruction Insight 360 application- Anyone supporting it on their campus

2015-04-29 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Liberty University has been doing multicast over WLAN for years for IPTV with our Aruba infrastructure. I am not sure what you mean by VLAN groups, but we make extensive use of user roles in Aruba's built-in stateful firewall. If you are using VLANs for security, you are doing it wrong!

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eInstruction Insight 360 application- Anyone supporting it on their campus

2015-04-29 Thread Lee H Badman
Nothing to do with security... instead of an SSID mapping to a single VLAN (and we don't do role-based VLANs) we map to an interface group of 4 VLANs. That's where that question came from. Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Ian McDonald
As long as you don't put the AP right over a ceiling frame joint, we seem to do OK, again dependent on what else is up there. Best regards Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. From: Harry Rauchmailto:rauc...@eckerd.edu Sent:

Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Cosgrove, John
Looking to hear about anyone doing above ceiling AP installations and see how the coverage compares to below the ceiling. I also don't have much time or resources to play around with the design since it will be in a hospital environment. I am pushing to keep the AP's below the ceiling but the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Harry Rauch
We have done both above ceiling and below ceiling and found that it depends what's above the ceiling. Ductwork, pipes, etc. affect about 10% of our coverage. We have also tested the newer in-the wall devices that could be applicable to your design. We chose Ruckus since a number of their

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Cosgrove, John
Thank you Chuck. This is how I see it as well. As the deployment gets more dense with AP’s walls become less of a factor. My other big resistance to this is serviceability. In a Hospital we have Infection Control issues. You can’t just get a step ladder and start poking around trying to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Cosgrove, John
Agreed. I was thinking along these lines as well. If your walls are not “floor to floor” above the ceiling Auto RF will have a clear shot to all the other AP’s. JC From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Watters, John
Can you tell us the brand/model for their patient/equipment location tracking system? Thanks. -jcw [UA Logo] John Watters The University of Alabama

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Near my home, Kaiser just completed a new state-of-the-art hospital and for the patients, it’s has a very luxury feel to it. They’ve deployed Cisco for wireless (for public and private), and the AP’s are all below the ceiling, along with what appear to be cellular repeaters. Having the AP’s

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Awarepoint – zigbee-based, mesh, RTLS. If you google at bit, Kaiser has shared a lot of the information about it. Jeff From: Watters, John Reply-To: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edumailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 1:16 PM To:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread Chuck Enfield
The question for me isn’t really whether to or not above the ceiling work or not, it’s how predictable is it. Coverage from AP’s, be they above or below the ceiling, is highly influenced by obstacle near the AP. For the most part, there are more potential obstacle above the ceiling than below.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread McClintic, Thomas
Above ceiling installation with auto RF mechanisms like TPC can cause lower power settings when the walls do not go above the ceiling. We have many additions throughout our campus where the walls do not extend above the grid. An AP placed above that will behave much differently than expected.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Above Ceiling AP installations vs. Prediction - Hospital Environment

2015-04-29 Thread John Kaftan
We did a survey about 5 years ago using AirMagnet and found that we lost 10-15% by going above the ceiling. The only difference between the two tests was the ½ to 3/4” of the thickness of the ceiling tile. I was much happier with the Aps mounted on the wall were we could see them and view