RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Peter P Morrissey
Another consideration is that, at least in our case, it can take years just to complete the lifecycle upgrade. Pete Morrissey From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Snyder Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:38 PM

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Chuck Enfield
Thanks GT, I definitely agree with your overall point, but I have to take issue with the following: * MU-MIMO just takes the same number of streams and distributes them to multiple clients. For example, 3 MU streams has no greater Eth load than a 3x3:3 client on a 3x3:3 AP. This

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Jake Snyder
I think there's a short term risk vs long term reward. In the short term, there's little benefit to W2 and more risk of code stability, lack of features, etc. In the long term, MU will bring some benefit. How much will depend on a lot of factors. W1 vs W2 for me is really about these risks

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Lee H Badman
Go GT! Lee Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME Syracuse University 315.443.3003 -Original Message- From: GT Hill [g...@gthill.com] Received: Friday, 05 Aug 2016, 10:09 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread GT Hill
Hello all… Just a few thoughts on this topic. Wave 2 isn’t any faster than wave 1 so it doesn’t need two Eth ports etc. Now, by true specification, yes it CAN be faster but that’s only because of 160 MHz channelization. MU-MIMO just takes the same number of streams and distributes them to

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Philippe Hanset
Brian, Food for thoughts... How is the over-subscription to the commodity Internet keeping up with Wi-Fi these days? Most services are in the cloud and it seems that Internet Commodity could be the limiting factor rather than wave1 or wave2 or even staying with 802.11n. Is it worth worrying

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
There are few problems I see with this line of thinking. a) This is the same argument people made when 802.11n arrived i.e. Stick with 802.11g as it’s less expensive, proven, and there are hardly any 11n clients. For those of us who jumped on the cutting edge, we road an explosive wave

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
If it’s really cat5 and not 5e, gigabit may work but you will run into a lot of crosstalk issues in bundles as the number of cables running gig increase i.e. five in a bundle of 50 probably OK, 20 out of 50, maybe not. I’d test the cat5 just to see where you are. Wave 1 vs Wave 2 – Some of

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread James Andrewartha
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > on behalf of Jake Snyder > Date: Friday, 5 August 2016 at 10:41 PM In the competitive stuff, I am seeing

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Jake Snyder
In the competitive stuff, I am seeing partners leading with Wave1 equipment because they get better pricing. There are also some verticals where stability is more important (healthcare) and wave1 APs don't run as bleeding edge code. Thanks Jake Snyder Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016,

RE: Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Brian Helman
Excellent question. Their explanation seemed like more of an excuse – that Wave 1 was proven. I think they probably have an inventory of Wave 1 AP’s and/or are getting them at a better price. Personally I wouldn’t use them, just because it doesn’t make sense to not install the most current

RE: Outsourced ResNet

2016-08-05 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Any idea why they are specifying 11ac Wave 1 when Wave 2 APs are current? ​ Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Network Oprations - Wireless (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Brian Helman [mailto:bhel...@salemstate.edu] Sent: Thursday, August