Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-23 Thread Samuel Clements
a State University >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: >>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W >>> (Network Services) >>> Sent: Tue

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-22 Thread Trenton Hurt
rk Services) >> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:03 AM >> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU');> >> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? >> >> Really? >> >&g

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-22 Thread Adam Forsyth
V.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W > (Network Services) > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:03 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? > > Really? > > Nintendo dropped Wii & DS support & closed the onlin

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-21 Thread Jake Snyder
With mandatory rates, the higher you go the more issues you can see and the advantages of more airtime suffer diminishing returns. Since the lowest mandatory is where control frames get sent, it can have some pretty serious impact. Pushing higher than 24 should be done with some good airtime

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-21 Thread James Andrewartha
On 21/06/16 12:06, Anthony Croome wrote: > Exactly, use 24Mbs to avoid weird behaviour. > > We looked at this a few years ago and found that XP could not handle > management packets being sent at 48Mb/s or 54Mb/s despite the card connecting > at 450Mb/s on 5GHz N or 144Mb/s on 2.4GHz N. > > On

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-21 Thread Frank Sweetser
of Australia -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2016 11:20 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Jason Wang
We removed 802.11b data rates on our campus in 2011. We didn't hear any feedback directly or by way of our Helpdesk. At the time we turned those rates off, 802.11b clients were a negligible percentage of our wireless users (rounded to ~0.0% when we put together our usage stats for that year).

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Danny Eaton
UCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Enfield Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 3:51 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? Rick, If I were brave enough to do what you've done, here's what I would worry about: - 802.11a/g devices are getting scarce

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Chuck Enfield
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick.Decaro Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:10 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? It sound like a lot of people have already disabled the 802.11b data rates. That being saidwhat minimum rate is everyone using? We

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Jeremy Mooney
Mooney > *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2016 1:14 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? > > > > We've had b disabled for several years, and when we did a complete > wireless replacement last year dropped rates below 24Mbps

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Watters, John
- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick.Decaro Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:10 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? It sound like a lot of people have

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Chuck Enfield
t Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick.Decaro Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:10 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? It sound like a lot of people have already disabled the 802.11b data rates. Tha

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Kanan E Simpson
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? It sound like a lot of people have already disabled the 802.11b data rates. That being saidwhat minimum rate is everyone using? We just changed ours last week from a minimum of 1Mbps to 54Mbps. So far we have

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Chuck Enfield
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? We have had the b rates disabled for 2 months short of 5 years. Not a single complaint that I am aware of. -jcw John WattersThe University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread McClintic, Thomas
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? We've had b disabled for several years, and when we did a complete wireless replacement last year dropped rates below 24Mbps to get everything up to QAM. The only definite complaints I know about

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Jeremy Mooney
We've had b disabled for several years, and when we did a complete wireless replacement last year dropped rates below 24Mbps to get everything up to QAM. The only definite complaints I know about are the Wii users everyone else has mentioned. Eliminating the rates would have effectively shrunk

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Rick . Decaro
Of Watters, John Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:01 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? We have had the b rates disabled for 2 months short of 5 years. Not a single complaint that I am aware of. -jcw John Watters

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Watters, John
Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:50 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? If so, how long

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Bucklaew, Jerry
On 06/20/2016 11:50 AM, Todd M. Hall wrote: > Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? If so, how long have they > been disabled? Did you have many complaints when you disabled them? Were > there > any particular devices that could not connect as a result? > > I'm hoping this

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Chuck Enfield
Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Samuel Clements Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 11:56 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? I think we've arrived at a point where most 802.11b devices are flat out deprecated

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Matthew Newton
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:49:35AM -0500, Todd M. Hall wrote: > Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? Yes. > If so, how long have they been disabled? Two or three years IIRC. > Did you have many complaints when you disabled them? None. > Were there any particular devices that

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Reyes, Esteban
aldosta State University > > -Original Message- > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 11:50 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Frank Sweetser
We killed off all 11b data rates about two years ago. We've had no complaints, but also don't have any wireless network set up to handle non-1x devices, like game consoles. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Kanan E Simpson
-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled? Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? If so, how long have they been disabled? Did you have many complaints when you disabled them? Were there any particular devices that could not connect as a result

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Jeremy Gibbs
Gone for 2 years. We have had only a handful of people complain, mostly about the Wii. *--Jeremy L. Gibbs* Sr. Network Engineer Utica College IITS On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Britton Anderson wrote: > We have had them disabled now for about two years now. When

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Britton Anderson
We have had them disabled now for about two years now. When we were planning this, we had about 10 routine clients that were associating at .11b rates routinely on our guest network--so we couldn't identify them, just where they were connecting. When we pitched this, we thought it best to invest

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?

2016-06-20 Thread Samuel Clements
I think we've arrived at a point where most 802.11b devices are flat out deprecated. I also believe that you're going to run into far more 802.11g devices that don't like 1 & 2 being disabled (most notably the Nintendo Wii) than you are people that actually expect an 802.11b device to still