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>>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W
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>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
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>> Really?
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V.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W
> (Network Services)
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:03 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
>
> Really?
>
> Nintendo dropped Wii & DS support & closed the onlin
With mandatory rates, the higher you go the more issues you can see and the
advantages of more airtime suffer diminishing returns. Since the lowest
mandatory is where control frames get sent, it can have some pretty serious
impact. Pushing higher than 24 should be done with some good airtime
On 21/06/16 12:06, Anthony Croome wrote:
> Exactly, use 24Mbs to avoid weird behaviour.
>
> We looked at this a few years ago and found that XP could not handle
> management packets being sent at 48Mb/s or 54Mb/s despite the card connecting
> at 450Mb/s on 5GHz N or 144Mb/s on 2.4GHz N.
>
> On
of Australia
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2016 11:20 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled
We removed 802.11b data rates on our campus in 2011. We didn't hear any
feedback directly or by way of our Helpdesk. At the time we turned those
rates off, 802.11b clients were a negligible percentage of our wireless
users (rounded to ~0.0% when we put together our usage stats for that year).
UCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Enfield
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 3:51 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
Rick,
If I were brave enough to do what you've done, here's what I would worry
about:
- 802.11a/g devices are getting scarce
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick.Decaro
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:10 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
It sound like a lot of people have already disabled the 802.11b data
rates. That being saidwhat minimum rate is everyone using?
We
Mooney
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> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
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>
>
> We've had b disabled for several years, and when we did a complete
> wireless replacement last year dropped rates below 24Mbps
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
It sound like a lot of people have
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick.Decaro
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
It sound like a lot of people have already disabled the 802.11b data
rates. Tha
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
It sound like a lot of people have already disabled the 802.11b data rates.
That being saidwhat minimum rate is everyone using?
We just changed ours last week from a minimum of 1Mbps to 54Mbps. So far we
have
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
We have had the b rates disabled for 2 months short of 5 years. Not a
single complaint that I am aware of.
-jcw
John WattersThe University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
205-348-3992
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
We've had b disabled for several years, and when we did a complete wireless
replacement last year dropped rates below 24Mbps to get everything up to QAM.
The only definite complaints I know about
We've had b disabled for several years, and when we did a complete wireless
replacement last year dropped rates below 24Mbps to get everything up to
QAM. The only definite complaints I know about are the Wii users everyone
else has mentioned. Eliminating the rates would have effectively shrunk
Of Watters, John
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:01 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
We have had the b rates disabled for 2 months short of 5 years. Not a single
complaint that I am aware of.
-jcw
John Watters
Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:50 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? If so, how long
On 06/20/2016 11:50 AM, Todd M. Hall wrote:
> Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? If so, how long have they
> been disabled? Did you have many complaints when you disabled them? Were
> there
> any particular devices that could not connect as a result?
>
> I'm hoping this
Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Samuel Clements
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 11:56 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
I think we've arrived at a point where most 802.11b devices are flat out
deprecated
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:49:35AM -0500, Todd M. Hall wrote:
> Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled?
Yes.
> If so, how long have they been disabled?
Two or three years IIRC.
> Did you have many complaints when you disabled them?
None.
> Were there any particular devices that
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> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
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> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
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We killed off all 11b data rates about two years ago. We've had no
complaints, but also don't have any wireless network set up to handle non-1x
devices, like game consoles.
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that
Manager of Network Operations | is
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11b data rates disabled?
Do you have all of the 802.11b data rates disabled? If so, how long have they
been disabled? Did you have many complaints when you disabled them? Were
there any particular devices that could not connect as a result
Gone for 2 years. We have had only a handful of people complain, mostly
about the Wii.
*--Jeremy L. Gibbs*
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Britton Anderson
wrote:
> We have had them disabled now for about two years now. When
We have had them disabled now for about two years now. When we were
planning this, we had about 10 routine clients that were associating at
.11b rates routinely on our guest network--so we couldn't identify them,
just where they were connecting. When we pitched this, we thought it best
to invest
I think we've arrived at a point where most 802.11b devices are flat out
deprecated. I also believe that you're going to run into far more 802.11g
devices that don't like 1 & 2 being disabled (most notably the Nintendo
Wii) than you are people that actually expect an 802.11b device to still
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