Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
On 2021-04-22 15:03:42-0500, Coehoorn, Joel wrote: > One other thing to keep in mind when considering an open access > environment is it's only the default and doesn't have to be the final > word. If you see a suspicious or malicious device, you can still force > it back behind a captive portal to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Enfield, Chuck Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? We discussed all those issues, and no doubt it opens a smelly can of worms. Most

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Jeffrey D. Sessler > *Sent:* Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:04 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? > > > > *[EXTERNAL SENDER]* > > For sure, my le

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Enfield, Chuck
. We tend to act like the law defines what we must do. That's rarely the case. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Floyd, Brad Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:47 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Floyd, Brad
sues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? [EXTERNAL SENDER] For sure, my lens is based on California law, however, the federal Fair Labor Sta

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Enfield, Chuck
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? For sure, my lens is based on California law, however, the federal Fair Labor Standards Act and state overtime and wage payment laws also come into play here. Since nonexempt (hourly) workers have ready

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:54 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? Jeff, It makes sense that you think this is settled law, because in California it is settled law. I don't recall all the details, but I was on a team involved

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Enfield, Chuck
CAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? Well, I can tell you that is just not the reality. Sorry! From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Jeffrey D.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Lee H Badman
SE.EDU>> on behalf of Jeffrey D. Sessler mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 1:05:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Tim Cappalli
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? Tim, I would take a look at case law, where it was determined that an employer can not expect an employee to use their own device without compensation. This has resulted in two scenarios now

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
be forced. Jeff From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:14 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? Well, I can tell you that is just not the reality. Sorry

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Anderson, Chuck
On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? On 2021-04-21 21:30:53+, Tim Cappalli wrote: > I'd also like to address the comment about post-college experience. > &

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Tim Cappalli
Well, I can tell you that is just not the reality. Sorry! From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:04 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-22 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
onal device they own. Jeff -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jonathan Waldrep Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:27 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? On 2021-04-21

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-21 Thread Tim Cappalli
ampus life. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Tim Cappalli <0194c9ecac40-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:24:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WP

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-21 Thread Tim Cappalli
. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Jonathan Waldrep Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:15:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? I keep trying to reply

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-21 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
Perhaps a better summary to the question, "Are you contemplating ditching .1X in favor of WPA3/OWE?" Kinda. I want to make .1X optional and burn the captive portal to the ground, but that has nothing to do with WPA3/OWE. And I'm stuck with WPA2 until "3duroam" is a thing. Our security model does

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-21 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
I keep trying to reply to this thread with my thoughts and some idea of where we are trying to move on this topic, but inevitably, it ends up rambly and unfinished. Let's see if I can actually keep it short and relevant. If so, there is lots left unsaid; please feel free to ask for details. We

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-21 Thread Manon Lessard
IRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? [Externe UL*] Jennifer, I would hope that the service itself has authorization/admittance controls vs relying on the user’s device and/or the particular network the device is in for permission

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ISE CERT Renewal

2021-04-20 Thread Heavrin, Lynn
My memory is a little foggy but I believe last time I imported a certificate with a private key that was the same as an old cert, it overwrote the old one. It pops up a warning saying that the private key exists already but then lets you continue. Generally I just make a new one with a new

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-19 Thread Philippe Hanset
e wifi, I wonder > if the pass-code water spigot is far off.  > > Jeff > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > On Behalf Of Lee H Badman > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:29 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIR

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
esnt-apply-to-universities-and-libraries-after-all Jeff -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jonathan Waldrep Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 4:42 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

RE: [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
, April 13, 2021 4:12 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi Once we got all our pipes bigger than most folks could use, we dropped all the rate limiting games we were playing. It's simpler and easier

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
On 2021-04-16 22:38:48+, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote: > Educause did an extensive review of DMCA and concluded there is no > need to "know with reasonable certainty who is using the network." What about for CALEA? I found [this][1] page, but all the FAQs linked are dead links. [1]:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
1:42 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? I agree that forcing client to jump through hoops unnecessarily is a Bad Thing. Requiring someone to go through a simple self-service onboarding process (or proceed as guest without access

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Neumann, Paul
at help.uic.edu to find IT services, Answers, and Support! From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? I’m all

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Curtis, Bruce
ERSITY > syr.edu > > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:16 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? > > > &g

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Brian Helman
of the corporatization of academia… -Brian From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? CAUTION: This email

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Ricardo Stella
Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman > *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2021 8:29 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? > > > > All good input- again, just thinking free here..

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
imple turn of the handle. When > I look at what lengths some of us have gone with our college wifi, I wonder > if the pass-code water spigot is far off.  > > Jeff > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > On Behalf Of Lee H Badman > Sent:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Lee H Badman
is far off.  Jeff From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:29 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? All good input- again, just thinking free here... thanks

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:29 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? All good input- again, just thinking free here... thanks for playing the game. Lee Badman (mobile) On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:07 AM, David Logan

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Lee H Badman
riday, April 16, 2021 10:23 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? How would you limit local services like printing, screen mirroring, media casting, etc? _

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread David Logan
Community Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Tim Cappalli > *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2021 10:23 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? > > > > How would you limit l

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread James Andrewartha
RELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution? How would you limit local services like printing, screen mirroring, media casting, etc? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Lee H

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WPA3/OWE as campus solution?

2021-04-16 Thread Michael Usher
/Wireless+Network+and+Systems> > SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY > syr.edu <http://syr.edu/> > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:23 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1X, onboarders, continued

2021-04-16 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
We're another organization looking to move away from PEAP/MSCHAPv2. We actually moved away from EAP-TLS a few years back due to lack of good onboarding (it was before my time, so I don't have any more details there). Our current setup is no onboarding tool, separate credentials for network

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication

2021-04-15 Thread Pratik Mehta
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication RE OCSP: AFAIK, only Android 11+ supports OCSP stapling for EAP. RE OP: Pratik, I reached out to the Windows team and they are diagnosing the issue to try to pinpoint when this occurs. tim

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication

2021-04-14 Thread Enfield, Chuck
:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication On 2021-04-13 21:20:32+, Pratik Mehta wrote: > [...] > The problem is that Windows attempts to perform a CRL check on the > RADIUS server certificate durin

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication

2021-04-14 Thread Tim Cappalli
of Jonathan Waldrep Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 10:33 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication On 2021-04-13 21:20:32+, Pratik Mehta wrote: > [...] > The problem is that Windows attempts to perform

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft Windows 10 CRL Check on 802.1x Authentication

2021-04-14 Thread Jonathan Waldrep
On 2021-04-13 21:20:32+, Pratik Mehta wrote: > [...] > The problem is that Windows attempts to perform a CRL check on the > RADIUS server certificate during the TLS handshake and before 802.1x > authentication is complete. This causes the EAP session to timeout and > wireless connectivity to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-13 Thread Jemes, Brian (je...@uidaho.edu)
: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:51 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi Three or four years ago we removed all filters, captive portals for terms of service, and bandwidth restrictions from our guest network. It’s now a wide open SSID that goes

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-13 Thread David Logan
Couple of technical comments: 1. Unless the rate-limiting was somehow incorporated into the WiFi AP and doing funny WiFi / L4 protocol trickery for the enforcement mechanism to achieve rate limiting, the transmit rate from the AP to the Client should be as fast as the negotiated/determined WiFi

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-13 Thread Felix Windt
Three or four years ago we removed all filters, captive portals for terms of service, and bandwidth restrictions from our guest network. It’s now a wide open SSID that goes straight out to the Internet, but needs to traverse the same set of security tools to reach campus resources as any other

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-13 Thread Bible, Landy
Landy Bible ​Senior Network Engineer The University of Tulsa -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Hunter Fuller Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 7:38 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIREL

RE: [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-13 Thread Adam T. Ferrero
Group Listserv On Behalf Of Martin MacLeod-Brown Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:12 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi That is an interesting question. I believe (perhaps wrongly) that rate limiting increases Wi-Fi

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-12 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Apr 12, 2021, at 18:20, Curtis K. Larsen mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> wrote: Curious to know if any have removed or recently raised the rate limit on the Guest Wi-Fi network at your institution, particularly large universities or hospitals. If you have taken that step how is it

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rate Limits on Guest Wi-Fi

2021-04-12 Thread James Andrewartha
On 13/4/21 7:20 am, Curtis K. Larsen wrote: > Curious to know if any have removed or recently raised the rate limit on > the Guest Wi-Fi network at your institution, particularly large > universities or hospitals.  If you have taken that step how is it > going?  Also curious to hear what speeds

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Norman Elton
reless Issues Community Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Philippe Hanset > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:55 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding > > > > L

RE: [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Adam T. Ferrero
. Still a work in progress but geteduroam app is a win! Nice work to that team! Adam From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Lee H Badman
https://answers.syr.edu/display/network/Wireless+Network+and+Systems SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY syr.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 11:56 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Curtis K. Larsen
; Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:30 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding Thanks, Philippe. I didn’t realize CAT would accommodate non-eduroam SSIDs. That’s huge. Lee Badman (mobile) On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-d

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Lee H Badman
Thanks, Philippe. I didn’t realize CAT would accommodate non-eduroam SSIDs. That’s huge. Lee Badman (mobile) On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote:  Lee, Based on your timeframe you might also want to consider the new

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Philippe Hanset
Lee, Based on your timeframe you might also want to consider the new development that is done in Europe called “geteduroam”. https://www.geteduroam.app It is App based and will feed from CAT but it is based on EAP-TLS or on EAP-TTLS/PEAP if preferred. So you could start with CAT and

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN onboarding

2021-04-07 Thread Felix Windt
At Dartmouth, we use the free eduroam tool to onboard our PEAP/MS-CHAPv2 eduroam SSID, which is our only 802.1x WLAN. It works really well for us. Occasionally I argue for switching to EAP-TLS, at that point we’d switch to a tool that does the certificate provisioning. thx, felix From: The

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Jeschke, Kurt
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid On Apr 1, 2021, at 16:03, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>> wrote: Ok, Full Disclosure … I was in shortage of A

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Enfield, Chuck
: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid Ok, Full Disclosure ... I was in shortage of April 1st fun :) AFO, April's Fools Officer :) On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Spurgeon, Charles E mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote: IMHO, Exposure Notification Express is the droid to look for.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Dan Lauing
To be fair, I read "AFO" and thought, "What in the world is that?" I was obviously undeterred. On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:05 PM Julian Y Koh wrote: > > > On Apr 1, 2021, at 16:03, Philippe Hanset < > 005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: > > Ok, Full Disclosure … I was in

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Apr 1, 2021, at 16:03, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: Ok, Full Disclosure … I was in shortage of April 1st fun :) Well, you got all of us….. :) Nicely done! -- Julian Y. Koh

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Philippe Hanset
gt; From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > On Behalf Of Dan Lauing > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:53 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid > > I don't believe Wi-Fi is a good technology for this. It's

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Spurgeon, Charles E
Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jerry Bucklaew Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid We had the same discussions and the same conclusion, wifi is not good for this. One reason is you can't trust

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Jerry Bucklaew
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid I don't believe Wi-Fi is a good technology for this. It's nice when you can reuse existing overhead, but I don't think 2.4/5/6 radio is the answer. You're just begging for false positives. On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:47 PM Seth Bean mailto:seth.b

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Felix Windt
Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:53 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid I don't believe Wi-Fi is a good technology for this. It's nice when you can reuse existing overhead, but I don't thi

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Dan Lauing
:33 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of MCLA. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the c

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Seth Bean
port From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Lee H Badman <00db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:33 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid CAUTION: This email origi

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Lee H Badman
Several vendors are trying to monetize COVID... the Wi-Fi part (in my opinion) falls apart fairly quickly in spots when you start talking it through for contact tracing- and usually to do it you may have to buy things you don't have to round out the system. FWIW. Lee Badman | Network

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Apr 1, 2021, at 14:29, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: Has anyone else been approached by AFCOTRA? They have developed an algorithm to map Wireless users and Covid Contamination. They

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Papercut Mobility-print and Enterprise mDNS

2021-03-22 Thread Michael Davis
Thanks to all.   We weren't aware of the DNS option and will look into that.. thanks mike On 3/19/21 3:14 PM, Tony Skalski wrote: We've had it running since it was released. We don't use mDNS however. The DNS config was not quite working for the few weeks of its life, but this was

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [Ext] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Papercut Mobility-print and Enterprise mDNS

2021-03-19 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
Another DNS zone here. Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology York College of Nebraska On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:49 PM Biggs, Nathanael wrote: > We use DNS (not mDNS) for this as well. It was a bit of a pain to set up > if my memory serves, but it has been solid since then. There is

Re: [Ext] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Papercut Mobility-print and Enterprise mDNS

2021-03-19 Thread Biggs, Nathanael
We use DNS (not mDNS) for this as well. It was a bit of a pain to set up if my memory serves, but it has been solid since then. There is a lot of good documentation available from PaperCut to help you confirm the DNS records are correct, too. On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 3:14 PM Tony Skalski <

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Papercut Mobility-print and Enterprise mDNS

2021-03-19 Thread Tony Skalski
We've had it running since it was released. We don't use mDNS however. The DNS config was not quite working for the few weeks of its life, but this was straightened out quickly and has been solid since. We run BIND on our name servers with a zone that forwards the discovery requests to our

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Papercut Mobility-print and Enterprise mDNS

2021-03-19 Thread Hurt,Trenton W.
Do you have these service strings added in the airgroup * _ipps._tcp * _banksia._tcp * _banksias._tcp Sent from my mobile device. Trent Hurt 5028521513 University of Louisville From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] A quick roundup of clients per standard in universities

2021-03-08 Thread Manon Lessard
y, March 8, 2021 at 10:25 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] A quick roundup of clients per standard in universities [Externe UL*] I filled out the survey and was hoping that you would share the results here once it is complete. David Hales Network Systems

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Catalyst 9800-CL

2021-03-08 Thread Christina Klam
Einstein Dr Princeton, NJ 08540 (m) +1 609-751-7899 (o) +1 609-734-8154 ck...@ias.edu From: "James Helzerman" To: "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv" Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 9:34:08 AM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Catalyst 9800-CL Hi. D

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Macbook zoom wireless dropout issues

2021-03-08 Thread Sidharth Nandury
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Catalyst 9800-CL

2021-03-08 Thread James Helzerman
1-7899 > (o) +1 609-734-8154 > ck...@ias.edu > > > -- > *From: *"James Helzerman" > *To: *"The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv" < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Sent: *Friday, March 5, 2021 10:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Catalyst 9800-CL

2021-03-05 Thread Christina Klam
erman" To: "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv" Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:51:34 AM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Catalyst 9800-CL Hi, we do not have these but in a cursory look led me to some questions that would be very deterministic if you should be concerne

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Catalyst 9800-CL

2021-03-05 Thread James Helzerman
Hi, we do not have these but in a cursory look led me to some questions that would be very deterministic if you should be concerned. - Will you be using a public or private cloud solution? - Will you be using Flex-connect, SD-Fabric or central for the data traffic? -Jimmy On Thu, Mar

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-03-04 Thread Enfield, Chuck
On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 2:06 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? I can't remember all the technical nitty-gritty details, and things may have changed in the past few years since, but when we were using NetInsight to help

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-03-04 Thread Julian Y Koh
UCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Michael Dickson Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? I'm wondering what folks think about adding eduroam (.1x) and guest SSIDs t

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-03-04 Thread Enfield, Chuck
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Michael Dickson Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? I'm wondering what folks think about adding eduroam (.1x) and guest SSIDs to out

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-03-04 Thread Seth Bean
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Michael Dickson Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of MCLA. Do not click links or open attachm

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-03-04 Thread Michael Dickson
I'm wondering what folks think about adding eduroam (.1x) and guest SSIDs to outdoor deployments where AP device capacity would be severely undersubscribed. Would support for only a fraction of user devices during an event be more of a problem or a solution from a user experience perspective?

Re: WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 23 Feb 2021 to 24 Feb 2021 (#2021-41)

2021-02-25 Thread Jon Marriott
w.educause.edu/community > > > > > -- > > dan b. lauing ii | CWNE #402 > Wireless Network Engineer > Mississippi College > > -- > > > * > * > > *CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT:* > > This communication may contain > confidential information. If

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wireless- MacBook WiFi slow on 5gHz channels 60-64

2021-02-24 Thread Viou, Robert
serv On Behalf Of Dan Lauing Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:18 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wireless- MacBook WiFi slow on 5gHz channels 60-64 That's a cool one. Does it happen with 20MHz channels as well? On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 2:15 PM Michael D

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wireless- MacBook WiFi slow on 5gHz channels 60-64

2021-02-24 Thread Dan Lauing
That's a cool one. Does it happen with 20MHz channels as well? On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 2:15 PM Michael Davis wrote: > How did you isolate it to channels 60+ and 64- ? We have started seeing > odd issues > with MacBooks on AP 200 series APs, but never thought to correlate it to > channels

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wireless- MacBook WiFi slow on 5gHz channels 60-64

2021-02-24 Thread Michael Davis
How did you isolate it to channels 60+ and 64- ?   We have started seeing odd issues with MacBooks on AP 200 series APs, but never thought to correlate it to channels yet. Clients are unable to connect or connect with poor performance to APs in or right outside their rooms, but go to other

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wireless- MacBook WiFi slow on 5gHz channels 60-64

2021-02-24 Thread McClintic, Thomas
Any other Unii-2 or Extended channels enabled on your environment? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jon Marriott Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:32 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wireless- MacBook WiFi slow on

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 Manual Profile Configuration Variable

2021-02-22 Thread Tim Cappalli
I didn’t forget  Been a busy few weeks. Will hopefully have something early next week. tim From: Tim Cappalli Date: Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 10:47 To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 Manual Profile

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-19 Thread Rios, Hector J
Similar to others, we also broadcast our main SSIDs outdoors. I think it is the best design. It keeps things consistent. To Lawson’s point, seamless mobility could be a challenge. Depending on the size of your campus and your network, you might be able to have a large subnet. But for those that

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-19 Thread Johnston, Ryan
Behalf Of Ricardo Stella Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:15 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? We don't broadcast our Guest network outdoors except for special events. Last fall we had to add several access points because tent

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-19 Thread Ricardo Stella
We don't broadcast our Guest network outdoors except for special events. Last fall we had to add several access points because tents were being installed at the last minute for students and potential academic use. We have older AP-275s but the ones added the last 2 years have been AP-365 or

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-19 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
We don't have dedicated outdoor APs, but purposefully designed our indoor coverage to be less-efficient than was needful, placing APs to deliberately cover outdoor spaces near building entrances and common gathering areas via bleed-through. It's worked well, but we're a small campus in place that

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-18 Thread Michael Usher
We broadcast the same SSIDs outdoors as indoors but we have different RF Profiles outdoors (allows lower data rates). For campus buildings, it's eduroam (our main service) plus Guest. For dorms, we have a ResWiFi and Guest. We keep eduroam and Guest in one IP range, but we do segment our Dorm

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-18 Thread Richie Penuela
Our standard WLANs in our University are secured network, guest, and eduroam. We broadcast the same SSIDS both indoors and outdoors for the mentioned reason of a seamless experience and there will be times that both will bleed over the other. We have specific WLANs and SSIDs for outside vendors

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-18 Thread Cody Ensanian
UCCS From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Glinsky, Eric Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? We broadcast the usual 3 SSIDs (branded, guest, eduroam) in the few locations

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-18 Thread Glinsky, Eric
We broadcast the usual 3 SSIDs (branded, guest, eduroam) in the few locations we have outdoor WiFi for general use. We’ve also started setting up outdoor APs for athletic venues for ticket scanners. In one area, we added the ticket scanning SSID to the others. In other, predictably more crowded

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs?

2021-02-18 Thread Cassels, Lawson
Yes, we have the same SSIDs on both indoor and outdoor APs. We do phone number verification for our guest accounts (legal said we must) and it only provides limited WAN access. Besides, most buildings radiate enough RF that you can connect through a window or wall without having to enter the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Macbook zoom wireless dropout issues

2021-02-15 Thread Sidharth Nandury
ehalf Of *Hurt,Trenton W. >> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2021 9:32 AM >> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Macbook zoom wireless dropout issues >> >> >> >> It says it right above the table listing all the ports and a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Macbook zoom wireless dropout issues

2021-02-15 Thread James Helzerman
. > *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2021 9:32 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Macbook zoom wireless dropout issues > > > > It says it right above the table listing all the ports and addresses > > > > > > Zoom firewal

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