Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-02-04 Thread Walter Reynolds
I would like to know the answer to this question as well. Walter Reynolds Principal Systems Security Development Engineer Information and Technology Services University of Michigan (734) 615-9438 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Norman Elton normel...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-02-03 Thread Wright, Don
, 2014 1:57 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Interesting. What were the band-steering symptoms? Any way to pin the problem down to band-steering, or was it trial and error? Norman On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Edward Ip i

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-02-03 Thread Wright, Don
Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Jeffrey Sessler *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like band

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-02-03 Thread Edward Ip
AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue You mentioned load balance mode, were you running band-steering and spectrum-load-balancing at the same time on the same APs? Check with Aruba, but I think they will tell you this is not a recommended

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-02-03 Thread Michael Hulko
| K2G 1V8 | Canada algonquincollege.com From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Norman Elton
It also appears specific to certs based on 2048 bit keys. Also there is no cert validation delay upon initial connect... only when attempting to reauth... ie after a death or a roam event. Can anyone confirm the bug only affects certs with 2048 bit keys? I don't see that listed anywhere in

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Norman Elton
And a follow up. Has anyone actually confirmed that this bug is actually causing client complaints? We do seem to riding a wave of complaints from MacBook owners. We are only just now starting to change cert trust settings. Hopefully we'll know more next week as students have a chance to test

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like band/load-steering. The cert issue coupled with band-steering and/or load-steering make the Mac's very unhappy. Jeff On Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM, in message

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Edward Ip
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like band/load-steering. The cert issue

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Norman Elton
*Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like band/load-steering. The cert issue coupled with band-steering and/or load-steering make

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like band/load-steering. The cert issue coupled with band

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Norman Elton
Sorry for the spam today, one last question for those that have experienced the cert issue. What was the client symptom? That is, what does the user see during the 10 second delay? Wifi icon is all grey, laddering up and down, all dark? Thanks, Norman Elton ** Participation and

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-31 Thread Michael Hulko
1:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like band/load-steering. The cert issue coupled with band-steering and/or load-steering make the Mac's very unhappy. Jeff

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-28 Thread Wright, Don
trsch...@ucdavis.edu Sent: 23/01/2014 20:11 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue 'It also appears specific to certs based on 2048 bit keys. Also there is no cert validation delay upon initial connect... only when attempting to reauth

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-28 Thread James Andrewartha
On 29/01/14 00:26, Walter Reynolds wrote: 2) Remove Wi-Fi network and then re-add (use the + and - buttons under the list in System Preferences/Network) If after doing those two you are still having problems we have had to take the nuclear approach. This is less if simply not getting an IP,

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Wright, Don
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Dickson Sent: 21 January 2014 17:06 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Is anyone working on (or successfully implemented) a scalable, automated(?) solution to change the SSL to 'Always Trust

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Dan Brisson
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Is anyone working on (or successfully implemented) a scalable, automated(?) solution to change the SSL to 'Always Trust' for target certs and distributed this to their client devices en

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Ian McDonald
/‎2014 14:41 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue +1 to that. -dan On 1/23/2014 9:28 AM, Wright, Don wrote: Anyone have concerns about making the trust setting changes to the certificate chain? I'm

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Turner, Ryan H
: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:52 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue I certainly do have concerns about this being

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Travis Schick
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Ian McDonald *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:52 AM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue I certainly do have concerns about this being the right way to 'fix' the issue. Sticking plaster on the client behaviour

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Marcelo Lew
Of Travis Schick Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:10 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue It doesn't happen for TLS(where clients are authenticated using a cert your PKI infrastructure has provided) but appears specific for PEAP

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Travis Schick
‘It also appears specific to certs based on 2048 bit keys. Also there is no cert validation delay upon initial connect... only when attempting to reauth... ie after a death or a roam event.” Correct. hehe... Not sure Apple can help with the delay after a death event but perhaps after

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-23 Thread Ian McDonald
/‎2014 20:11 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue ‘It also appears specific to certs based on 2048 bit keys. Also there is no cert validation delay upon initial connect... only when attempting to reauth

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-21 Thread Tim Cappalli
*From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Joel Coehoorn *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 7:58 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Even acknowledging

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Dickson
Of Joel Coehoorn Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 7:58 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Even acknowledging the issue is a huge help for me: Mac people have a hard time believing Apple could possibly have done anything wrong

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-21 Thread Ian McDonald
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Dickson Sent: 21 January 2014 17:06 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Is anyone working on (or successfully implemented) a scalable, automated(?) solution to change the SSL to 'Always Trust' for target

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-18 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Jan 17, 2014, at 22:16 , Mike Albano mike.alb...@unlv.edu wrote: Would be nice if more technical details were available. For example, at what part of the EAP/PEAP packet exchange does this delay occur? Sounded like part of the issue was with CRL and/or OCSP. Also interesting was that

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

2014-01-17 Thread mike . albano
l Coehoorn <jcoeho...@york.edu> Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu> Date: 01/17/2014 05:06PMSubject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue Even acknowledging the issue is a huge help for me: Mac people have a hard time