RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses
We partnered with all our local municipal transportation services to implement NextBus (http://nextbus.com) route information technology. NextBus uses GPS and 3G backhaul to provide location and arrival time information that is accessible by the web, SMS, and voice. On our campus buses (Cambus) we are rolling out Wi-Fi service (it's an option NextBus offers). It just went live this fall, so we don't have a lot of feedback yet. It will be separate SSID from our regular campus wireless service. Our website is http://ebongo.org (Bongo is short for Bus on the go). -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer Information Technology Services The University of Iowa 319 384-0938 neil-john...@uiowa.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses When we looked into it, the bus company wasn't interested as they can't do every bus and rotate the busses that get used on campus. Also, our commutes are pretty short in general. And... The growing number of smartphones does make it less interesting of an idea. -Lee Badman From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Randall C Grimshaw [rgrim...@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses There was a similar thread some time ago regarding wi-fi on the busses for sports teams. I was hoping that someone would chime in... but the gist was that there are cellular routers with more than one usb/card slot that provide automatic failover - and you have two (or three) carriers. I would think that you sort the carriers in the queue in some reasonable way to reduce costs/risk/load. Randy From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses We were asked to look into it but never did it. I don't know of any other way to provide the service but to do WiFi router with a cellular back-haul, like you said. And just specify it is best effort. I think that's the best you can do. Unless you want to beef up the cell coverage with DAS, but then your costs start increasing. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:44 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses Hi, We have two main campuses with a regularly scheduled shuttle bus running between the two. We've been asked to look into providing WiFi service on this bus. It appears the solution is a WiFi router with a cellular back-haul (3G?). If anyone is doing this I'd appreciate any comments as I see a number of issues..spotty cellular along the route (ie. service disclaimer required),, user density vs. available bandwidth (Netflix!!)etc. thanks in advance...J James Savage York University Senior Communications Tech. 108 Steacie Building jsav...@yorku.camailto:jsav...@yorku.ca 4700 Keele Street ph: 416-736-2100 ext. 22605Toronto, Ontario fax: 416-736-5830M3J 1P3, CANADA ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure
We have them installed in both common areas and in suites. We usually put them in hallways, but a few of our Res areas don't have interior hallways. In the three years they've been their they haven't been vandalized or stolen, even though two our buildings only have 8 ft ceilings. We had the same concept as most, if it is broken by residents they can pay for it out of their deposit. Heath On 3/17/2011 11:31 AM, John Kaftan wrote: I have always thought we would install in the hallways. For those of you who have said they install in student rooms I'd like to understand when and why you do so. I've assumed that we would want to always have access in case an AP goes south. John Kaftan Infrastructure Manager Utica College 315.792.3102 *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Peter P Morrissey *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:23 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure We're going on about 3,000 installed, and I think one may have been vandalized. Our students love their wireless and seem to understand what makes it possible. There is clearly no ROI for enclosures. You can install a lot of extra wireless connectivity for the price you would pay for the enclosures and invest in a couple of spares for insurance. Hall phones are another matter. Those get destroyed on a regular basis. Pete M. *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Joe Rogers *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:16 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure We too elected to install our residence hall access points without protective enclosures. So far there have been no issues in the past ~4 years with the approximately 1100 we have deployed. We do normally place them into student rooms rather than hallways or common areas so that we know who to talk to if there ever is a problem. Joe On 03/17/2011 12:08 PM, Michael P Hizny wrote: We installed AP enclosures in our first dorm building when we went wireless. After that we decided to take a chance and see what happened instead of adding the extra cost. The students see the wireless as a great service. In 4 years we have not had one vandalized. We have over 800 of them installed in our residence halls on both the walls and on the ceiling. *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Kaftan *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:40 AM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure Has anybody found a good solution for AP enclosures? Our older Residence Halls do not have drop ceilings so we cannot hide the APs. We have found that most things visible get destroyed. Our standard APs have internal antennas so I'd like to find a box that is RF transparent. I found one by Oberon Model 1025 but at $240 ea I don't see us making it happen. I do have some older APs I can use that are a\b\g that have external antennas that I can use if need be. http://oberonwireless.com/outdoor_nema-access-point-enclosures.php ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Heath Barnhart, CCNA Network Administrator Information Systems and Services Washburn University Topeka, KS 66621 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure
We really like Terrawave products for enclosures (and antennas). We can get them for under $100 from CDWG. http://www.terra-wave.com/shop/enclosures-c-229.html When buying enclosures, keep in mind that 802.11n access points usually have 6 antennas, and future wireless might have more. Tristan Rhodes Network Engineer Weber State University On 3/17/2011 at 9:39 AM, in message 015c01cbe4b9$9158cdf0$b40a69d0$@edu, John Kaftan jkaf...@utica.edu wrote: Has anybody found a good solution for AP enclosures? Our older Residence Halls do not have drop ceilings so we cannot hide the APs. We have found that most things visible get destroyed. Our standard APs have internal antennas so I'd like to find a box that is RF transparent. I found one by Oberon Model 1025 but at $240 ea I don't see us making it happen. I do have some older APs I can use that are a\b\g that have external antennas that I can use if need be. http://oberonwireless.com/outdoor_nema-access-point-enclosures.php ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
