Report from Educause (the session was not streamed)

2012-11-12 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
Educause-Denver-2012 was a success. Great topics, amazing Weather, great audience, and even good food! The following topics were tackled by the Wireless-LAN group within the 50 minutes assigned. Here is the report from our meeting. Thank you to Jeffrey Ballentine from UPenn for taking notes

eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Julian Y Koh
So we're looking at an eduroam deployment here, and one question that has come up is one of credentials. Here at NU, we have 2 identifiers - the NetID and the alias. All of the directories and the like are keyed off of the NetID, which does not have to be the same as the alias. Top-level

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Jeff Kell
Hey Julian, We recently went through this after cranking up eduroam officially this past fall. We have similar points of confusion, plus a bonus. Our email addresses are first-l...@utc.edu unless there are conflicts, in which case we use a middle initial or a suffix. Our official UTCid is a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Lee H Badman
Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering. Lee Badman On Nov 12, 2012, at 18:27, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Steve Bohrer
In Nov 12, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: I would advise you rig up your local .1X to authenticate with your fully-qualified eduroam username, just so users can consistently login with the same credentials (assuming you're not using eduroam for production .1X). Sorry, what's the benefit

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Jeff Kell
On 11/12/2012 6:39 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering. Well, again, I have a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Steve Bohrer
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering. Not actual

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
... We have the stats but are not publishing institution specific them for privacy reasons. http://www.eduroamus.org/node/232 I have testimonials from Schools like UCSD and UChicago that immediately noticed hundreds of visitors on their campuses. Drexel University, for instance, had 40 eduroam

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Karl Reuss
On 11/12/2012 6:39 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering. We don't have any

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Lee H Badman
Nah, just like to understand the benefit before making changes. Trying to gage how many nomadic WLAN users are really roaming from school to school, as opposed to users connecting to it on their own campus. Seems like a fair exercise:) Sent from an Etch-a-Sketch. Please excuse squiggly lines.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Lee H Badman
Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Jeff Kell
On 11/12/2012 9:41 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s)

2012-11-12 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
Done. It's called 802.11u which is now part of 802.11 The SSID will soon be irrelevant anyway. All you will do is a Roaming Operator challenge! Philippe On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in