RE: You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-06 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
Since this is an enterprise issue, why exclude them from the petition? If some big enterprise customers governments were on the petition, it would have a better chance of at least being noticed. I would expect that an enterprise like Boeing would have more impact on Apple than any educational

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Mike King
One more thing. I think use of an online petition tool might help things out organizationally. http://www.change.org/petition there are others, that was the first Google result. Mike On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: So... two thoughts. Perhaps give it

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Brian L. Cox
This has worked at least once before on Apple. http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-protect-workers-making-iphones-in-chinese-factories-3 According to the petition over 250,000 signed on to the appeal for change From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

RE: Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
I agree although I expect nothing will come of it. Their stock price is far too high for them to be bothered with concern. I wish I could be more of an optimist sometimes. Brian From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
Thank you Lee. I definitely believe that it is a great use of the list...A request made by Academia and for Academia Let me add: Even as an Apple shareholder, (no conflict of interest, more of a vested interest in the matter ;-), I believe that it is way past our time to voice our opinion

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Bruce Boardman
Lets do both, petition that points to the FB page, that way it will be easier for Apple to circulate our concerns within apple., amaybe we get some enterprise particpation. |Bruce Boardman, Network Engineer, Syracuse University - 315 889-1667 From: The

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread John Kaftan
Apple either does not care or they have not gotten the message. There is no way to know for sure which is the case. There is not a lot we can do about the former, however we can keep trying about regarding the latter. I think the petition is a positive and creative way for us to try and reach

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Johnson, Neil M
I've added a section on solution criteria: Whereas, we the undersigned academic and research institutions are receiving numerous requests from our faculty, staff, and students for the ability to utilize Airplay technology in classrooms, conference rooms, and other locations, hereby solemnly

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Johnson, Neil M
I tried to create a Facebook group, but it's requesting I add members to it before it is created. Any suggestions ? -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu From: Johnson, Neil

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread David Gillett
For me, the key point is enterprise networks. When Bonjour first came to my attention, it was officially described as An experimental protocol for small networks without DNS servers. Apparently, Apple's thinking is that if you use their products, your network MUST qualify. I believe THAT

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
That is worth mentioning: I'll be disappointed if this petition is limited to AirPlay. The real target here is Bonjour. It's required for an iOS device to use wifi to sync to iTunes. Time Capsule uses it. It is rapidly becoming the cornerstone of Apple's networking story. In fairness, if we give

Institutional Policy on radio frequencies

2012-07-06 Thread Brian Helman
I'm researching policies regarding the governance of radio frequency control at other institutions? This seems to pop up annually here where a department goes for a convenient/cheap installation of a product, which inevitably means the device - weather station, score board, energy management

Re: Apple Petition

2012-07-06 Thread Green, William C
Today it is AppleTV, tomorrow it will be a different device/use/software. The underlying issue, as others have noted, is the Bonjour resource discovery mechanism, what Apple likely needs is a directory service. Once that is solved, the problem will then shift to

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-06 Thread Voll, Toivo
Also, for me, the lack of support for WPA2-Enterprise is a head-scratcher. If they go through the trouble of supporting the rest of the encryption schemes, and obviously support it on a bunch of their other products, why randomly leave it out of some products? I’d prioritize that a bit more,

RE: Institutional Policy on radio frequencies

2012-07-06 Thread Frank Bulk
The FCC and NTIA govern frequency in the United States. You control short-range airwaves to the extent that your institution can control what is brought onto campus by employees, students, and the public. In the same way it's difficult to legally prevent students from bringing in peanut-based

Apple TV/Wide Area Bonjour question

2012-07-06 Thread Cheryl-Anne Juba
Good afternoon -- I had a question about how you setup Wide Area Bonjour -- in your example below you listed a dns record for _appletv-v2._tcp: 35CF2488F02660B1._appletv-v2._tcp SRV 0 0 3689 utnet-appletv.bonjour.utexas.edu. ; Replace with unicast FQDN of target host

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV/Wide Area Bonjour question

2012-07-06 Thread Johnson, Neil M
I thought it was the MAC address of the particular device, but yours is longer than that. Curious. (One of the reasons we didn't want to use Wide-Area Bonjour for this). -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081