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-Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu From: <Johnson>, Neil Johnson <neil-john...@uiowa.edu<mailto:neil-john...@uiowa.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 9:26 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) I've added a section on solution criteria: Whereas, we the undersigned academic and research institutions are receiving numerous requests from our faculty, staff, and students for the ability to utilize Airplay technology in classrooms, conference rooms, and other locations, hereby solemnly request that Apple provide support for Airplay technology in enterprise networks. Specifically, we request the following (in order of priority): * That Apple establish a way for the Apple TV (and other Airplay enabled devices) to be discoverable across multiple IPv4 and IPv6 subnets, or lacking that: * That Apple establish a way for the Apple TV (and other Airplay enabled devices) to be easily statically configured to be accessible across multiple IPv4 and IPv6 subnets * That the Apple TV support Enterprise Wireless Encryption and Authentication (WPA2-Enterprise) * That authentication to the Apple TV be able to utilize enterprise authentication services (LDAP and/or AD) Any enterprise Airplay solution needs to meet the following criteria: * It must scale to 100's-1000's of Airplay enabled devices. * It must not significantly negatively impact network traffic (wired and wireless). * It must be easily manageable at scale. * It must be provided at a reasonable cost Failure to provide this support severely limits the usefulness (and desirability) of Apple products in our institutions. At your earliest convenience please provide us with a roadmap for support of Airplay and related technologies in enterprise wireless environments. Thank you. -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu<mailto:neil-john...@uiowa.edu> From: John Kaftan <jkaf...@utica.edu<mailto:jkaf...@utica.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 9:11 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) Apple either does not care or they have not gotten the message. There is no way to know for sure which is the case. There is not a lot we can do about the former, however we can keep trying about regarding the latter. I think the petition is a positive and creative way for us to try and reach them from another angle and collectively. I am fairly excited about how this is coming together. I will forward this thread to our Apple Engineer as a heads up. John Kaftan IT Infrastructure Manager Utica College. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Kellogg, Brian D. Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) I agree although I expect nothing will come of it. Their stock price is far too high for them to be bothered with concern. I wish I could be more of an optimist sometimes. Brian From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Boardman Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:25 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) I think it's a good idea to reach out to Apple, even if ignored, for two reasons, so they know it's comming, and so they know it's important and not just a group of loud mouth limes. |Bruce Boardman, Network Engineer, Syracuse University - 315 889-1667 ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] on behalf of Mike King [m...@mpking.com<mailto:m...@mpking.com>] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 7:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) One more thing. I think use of an online petition tool might help things out organizationally. http://www.change.org/petition there are others, that was the first Google result. Mike On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: So... two thoughts. Perhaps give it another week for people to chime in with their gripes and let the list discuss them? Then perhaps digital signatures- DocuSign is free and elegant. I guess also, a courtesy inquiry to Phillipe over whether he sees this as prudent list of the group is probably in order. Say, Phillipe- do you see this as prudent use of the list? Thanks, Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer, ITS Adjunct Instructor, iSchool Syracuse University 315.443.3003<tel:315.443.3003> ________________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] on behalf of Curtis K. Larsen [curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu<mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:01 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) You should add fast-roaming to the list. No Mac or iOS device supports fast roaming with Opportunistic Key Caching. They can do PMK "Sticky", but it is not the same as OKC. With Sticky, it is only "fast" when you roam back to an AP you've been on, and the client can only cache up to 8 AP's. Curtis Larsen Wireless Network Engineer University of Utah 801-587-1313<tel:801-587-1313> On 07/05/2012 02:46 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: > Pretty much what I was thinking (ballpark) with all Educause schools > individually signed on. May not amount to anything, but would in itself be > media fodder. > > Lee H. Badman > Wireless/Network Engineer, ITS > Adjunct Instructor, iSchool > Syracuse University > 315.443.3003<tel:315.443.3003> > ________________________________ > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] > on behalf of Johnson, Neil M > [neil-john...@uiowa.edu<mailto:neil-john...@uiowa.edu>] > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:37 PM > To: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it > was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) > > > I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics things to request from Apple, but here is > a first pass): > > > Whereas, we the undersigned academic and research institutions are receiving > numerous requests from our faculty, staff, and students for the ability to > utilize Airplay technology in classrooms, conference rooms, and other > locations, hereby solemnly request that Apple provide support for Airplay > technology in enterprise wireless networks. > > > Specifically, we request the following (in order of priority): > > * That Apple establish a way for the Apple TV (and other Airplay enabled > devices) to be discoverable across multiple IPv4 and IPv6 subnets or lacking > that: > * That Apple establish a way for the Apple TV (and other Airplay enabled > devices) to be easily statically configured to be accessible across multiple > IPv4 and IPv6 subnets > * That the Apple TV support Enterprise Wireless Encryption and > Authentication (WPA2-Enterprise) > * That authentication to the Apple TV be able to utilize enterprise > authentication services (LDAP and/or AD) > > Failure to provide this support severely limits the usefulness (and > desirability) of Apple products in our institutions. > > > > At your earliest convenience please provide us with a roadmap for support of > Airplay and related technologies in enterprise wireless environments. > > > > Thank you. > > -- > Neil Johnson > Network Engineer > The University of Iowa > Phone: 319 384-0938<tel:319%20384-0938> > Fax: 319 335-2951<tel:319%20335-2951> > Mobile: 319 540-2081<tel:319%20540-2081> > E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu<mailto:neil-john...@uiowa.edu> > > > From:<Watters>, > John<john.watt...@ua.edu<mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu><mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu<mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu>>> > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group > Listserv<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>> > Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:23 PM > To: > "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>"<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support > for instructors. > > > Whereas, we the undersigned academic and research institutions are > > receiving numerous requests from our faculty, staff, and students for the > > ability to utilize Airplay technology in classrooms, conference rooms, and > > other locations, here by solemnly request that Apple provide support or > > Airplay technology in enterprise wireless networks. > > > > Failure to provide this support severely limits the usefulness (and > > desirability) of Apple products in our institutions. > > > > At your earliest convenience please provide us with a roadmap for 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