RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
I think there is a point that is being missed here. It appears that Apple may have *purposely* designed these devices protocols for the consumer environment, not for the enterprise. Since Apple TV supports WPA2-Personal, it would likely have not been much more effort to support

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Peter P Morrissey
Not for the enterprise? “AirPlay Mirroring is made for an audience. Because with a click, what’s on your Mac is also on your HDTV. It’s easy to set up with Apple TVhttp://www.apple.com/appletv/. Show web pages and videos to friends on the couch, share lessons with a classroom, or present to a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-10 Thread Lee H Badman
I have read this, and as well done of a document that it is, I'd still prefer not to have to adopt a new architecture and pre-share based network for one-off devices as opposed to having those devices work on a standards-based typical WLAN if there is an easier (for everyone) way. I would

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-10 Thread Johnson, Neil M
From an administrator's perspective: I unpack the Apple TV, connect it to the wired network and projector, configure it to register with a central directory, give it a name, enable authentication to the enterprise AAA service, and be done. From a end-user's standpoint I'd like to see the

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Garry Peirce
I’m in support of the collective request to help enable further operational flexibility, although also not sure Apple will feel enough pressure to assist. To the first item: ‘That Apple establish a way for Apple TV's (and other Bonjour/Airplay enabled devices) be accessible across multiple

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-10 Thread Chris Murphy
Eric, I haven't sniffed the traffic, but I don't see anything that indicates the actual data streams are multicast, and I don't think I'd expect it to be given it's point-to-point. Then again, I'd expect the whole system to be implemented in a rather more sane way, so what do I know...

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-10 Thread Eric T. Barnett
I believe that the data streams are indeed unicast, but if I understand it right, Bonjour uses multicast for the initial setup and discovery. --Eric From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy Sent:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-10 Thread Garry Peirce
I apologize for duplicate posting, but it was suggested I rename the subject of my note below so that it fall under this related subject thread. Re: Cisco vlan select method – I note to be discovered by clients, “This means the Apple TV should be forced to announce itself by being put to

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Johnson, Bruce T.
How about 802.11r Fast Roaming/Proactive Key Caching? Thanks, Bruce T. Johnson | Network Engineer | Partners Healthcare 617.726.9662 | Pager: 31633 | bjohns...@partners.org 149 13th Street, 10th Floor, Mailstop 10055B, Charlestown, Ma 02129 -Original Message- From: Voll, Toivo

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-10 Thread Johnson, Bruce T.
Thanks Curtis, missed the earlier amendment. Thanks, Bruce T. Johnson | Network Engineer | Partners Healthcare 617.726.9662 | Pager: 31633 | bjohns...@partners.org 149 13th Street, 10th Floor, Mailstop 10055B, Charlestown, Ma 02129 -Original Message- From: Curtis K. Larsen

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Jesse Rink
All this chat about the Apple Petition yet I don’t seem to find a link for it anywhere? Did I miss this in past messages? Can’t seem to locate anything.. Thanks J From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Johnson, Neil M
We looked into DNS-SD, but with entries like this (example taken from an earlier e-mail from Oscar Silva at the Univ. or Texas , and confirmed by our own testing): _airplay._tcp PTR utnet-appletv._airplay._tcp utnet-appletv._airplay._tcp SRV 0 0 7000

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Johnson, Neil M
This is where I have been keeping the latest draft. https://www.facebook.com/groups/enterpriseairplay/files/ -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu From: Jesse Rink

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Joel Coehoorn
If those entries work, and are all that is needed, then we're not far from full support. It seems like we could get a tool or set of scripts to automate creating/modifying the needed records. Sent from my iPad On Jul 10, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Johnson, Neil M neil-john...@uiowa.edu wrote: We

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Johnson, Neil M
My concern is that certain fields appear to contain dynamic information like the software version (see srcvers=120.2) and other information (what does 35CF2488F02660B1 mean ?). The only way it seems to collect this information is to connect the device to local net, run Bonjour Browser or run

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
I might be misunderstanding something; if so please correct me. When I setup a Linux MDNS server the bonjour devices all auto registered with the DNS server so there were no entries I had to manually create. I used a subdomain to keep them from cluttering up the our root domain for all