Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Lee H Badman
Folks, Those interested seem to agree that we'd discuss specific pain points regarding those other Apple devices like AppleTv and any AirPlay/Bonjour-dependent gadgets until Friday, at which point we'd firm up the petition and find a place to host it. Then would come signatures, and ultimately

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Danner, Mearl
But it's still link-local and requires management of an enterprise-wide flat VLAN architecture. No IP addresses I can see. Just the hardware address. Don't we want something IP based similar to dynamic DNS? Microsoft provided WINS and then Active Directory to allow their OSes to move from local

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Chris Murphy
Honestly, if I could just enter a FQDN for an Apple TV or a printer I'd be ecstatic. -Chris On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Danner, Mearl wrote: But it's still link-local and requires management of an enterprise-wide flat VLAN architecture. No IP addresses I can see. Just the hardware address.

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Curtis K. Larsen (UIT-Network)
What is the scope of the petition? What is the goal? Is it only to improve the Airplay feature in the enterprise? If so, the petition looks fine to me. If the goal is to encourage Apple to incorporate enterprise support in *all* of their products, then we should include more lacking

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Johnson, Neil M
So, even if you setup static DNS-SD records, the Airplay receiver (Apple TV) and Airplay transmitter (iPad, iPhone, or Mac running Mountain Lion) have to be in the same subnet. That is the reason for the 1st request in the petition. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
From what I read the MDNS registration is link local, but once registered than other Bonjour clients can query the MDNS records and connect across VLANs. The issue I ran into is that most Bonjour clients I tested could not connect across VLANs. I thought the original post was more of a

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Yep -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:48 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition Honestly, if I could just

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Johnson, Neil M
It's just my opinion, but while asking Apple to implement OKC sounds like worthwhile idea, I'd like to keep the focus on Bonjour and Airplay for this petition. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail:

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
I agree. I think if it get too broad it is just going to look like a well-organized rant. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, Neil M Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:25 AM To:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Ethan Sommer
I agree. The ability to enter a FQDN or ip would be a huge (and sufficient) step forward. I can imagine all sorts of more complicated discovery methods (ideally where some central server gives one access to specific AppleTVs based on location and credentials) but that doesn't seem like a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-11 Thread Lee Weers
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-11 Thread Mike King
Hey guys. I've found more interesting information. This page: http://www.grouplogic.com/Knowledge/PDFUpload/Info/WanBonjour_1.pdf Has some pretty detailed information on creating Unicast DNS Service Discovery for Bonjour on Windows DNS Servers, as well as how to use a MAC to function as a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-07-11 Thread Eric T. Barnett
That reflector might not be as amazing as I thought. It’s strange, I have been able to mirror my iPad forever, but using the YouTube app, the AppleTV drops me in some random 30 second incremented time (i.e. happened once at 30 seconds, once at 1 minute, once at 2 minutes). Once I turned back

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Garry Peirce
Like it or not, Bonjour exists and users desire the service discovery promoted and which they have in their home/local subnet as they move within the enterprise. All enterprise solutions seem kludgey to different degrees, but we're trying to make a non-routed protocol act like one. A current

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Jesse Rink
So for those of us without Facebook, no way of signing it? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:14 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN]

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread James Andrewartha
On 11/07/12 22:05, Johnson, Neil M wrote: So, even if you setup static DNS-SD records, the Airplay receiver (Apple TV) and Airplay transmitter (iPad, iPhone, or Mac running Mountain Lion) have to be in the same subnet. That is the reason for the 1st request in the petition. Aerohive's

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Garry Peirce
Hearing that some do not use FB that wish to sign, perhaps moving it to a site like http://www.change.org/ http://www.change.org is a possibility, or perhaps a page could be hosted on the Educause website itself? The petition's main statement reads: We the undersigned academic and research