It's just my opinion, but while asking Apple to implement OKC sounds like worthwhile idea, I'd like to keep the focus on Bonjour and Airplay for this petition.
-Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu From: "Curtis K. Larsen (UIT-Network)" <curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu<mailto:curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:05 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check What is the scope of the petition? What is the goal? Is it only to improve the Airplay feature in the enterprise? If so, the petition looks fine to me. If the goal is to encourage Apple to incorporate enterprise support in *all* of their products, then we should include more lacking enterprise features in other products in the petition. I don't want to muddy the waters with the message we are sending, but in my opinion - as soon as you get things like Airplay working you have another big problem and that is that you cannot pull off a seamless roam from any Apple device connected to a WPA2-Enterprise SSID. So if you are fine with telling those users to stay put while doing Airplay, or voice apps, etc. then no biggie, but if you want to support mobile real-time video/voice - these devices have to support a fast-roam using an Enterprise method. Since Windows XP, microsoft supports this - it is called "opportunistic key caching". You can add the feature to Linux by editing the wpa_supplicant.conf file and adding "proactive key caching". All of the WiFi phones (Cisco, Avaya, Polycom) support this. Not a single Mac or iOS device does. Some think 802.11r is the solution - I have my doubts that Apple will ever incorporate 802.11r, and if they did and you turn it on, then all of your other non-802.11r devices on that SSID will no longer fast-roam. ...May be something to consider. Curtis Larsen University of Utah Wireless Network Engineer Office 801-587-1313 ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] on behalf of Lee H Badman [lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>]u Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check Folks, Those interested seem to agree that we’d discuss specific pain points regarding “those other” Apple devices like AppleTv and any AirPlay/Bonjour-dependent gadgets until Friday, at which point we’d firm up the petition and find a place to host it. Then would come signatures, and ultimately presenting it to Apple, possibly via each of our Apple reps. Neil Johnson has started the companion Facebook group, and has drafted the early version of what everyone appears to want from Apple development in petition form at https://www.facebook.com/groups/enterpriseairplay with 72 members joining thus far. (Thanks, Neil) We have at least one CIO interested, and interested in sharing it with other CIOs via Educause if petition is done in a constructive, fact-based way. We also have a bit of media coverage coming soon on the process, with potentially more to follow. A lot of excellent technical discussion has been spawned during all of this, and as usual, the interaction has been great between list members. All of that being said, it is worth asking: · Is the group still feeling good about the direction this initiative is going in? · Does anyone have any problems with the wording and points in the doc so far? · Is everyone interested able to sign on behalf of their institution/organization? If not, can you get empowered or find someone who can sign? · Has anyone else approached senior IT management and found interest? Any other CIOs game at this point? · Any other mid-week thoughts, concerns, comments on the topic? Regards- Lee Badman ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
