RE: Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
Haven't tried the 802.1x features but it claims to have them. http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2012/FallBizPrinting/CN598A_HP_Officejet_Pro_X576dw_MFP.pdf From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hinson, Matthew P Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:22 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Yeah, I configured a Ricoh something-or-another last semester that claimed to do dot1X, but I didn't believe it. We already had a PSK network out there and we put it on that. I should mention that it took two of our techs plus the vendor sending a rep out and wasting hours of time to get it to accept a simple PSK connection. Oh, and did I mention that this is a brand new unit (as of 4 months ago) and it only supports 802.11a/b/g... :| From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? I was recently working on an HP laser Pro 200 that does have 802.1X support, but couldn't tell you if it works reliably. I was also impressed to see that it comes, along with other models, with IPv6 support. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. Save a tree - Think before you print this email ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
Why bother? If you can run a power outlet, you can run a catN also, and have guaranteed connectivity throughput.. My useless $0.02 -- Ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. From: Lee H Badmanmailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Sent: 12/02/2015 19:00 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
That’s been our answer to the AppleTV’s, etc. If it has a power cord/brick, get an Ethernet cable. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Why bother? If you can run a power outlet, you can run a catN also, and have guaranteed connectivity throughput.. My useless $0.02 -- Ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. _ From: Lee H Badman mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Sent: 12/02/2015 19:00 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. !DSPAM:911,54dd008868931390821143! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
Yeah baby. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hinson, Matthew P Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:22 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Yeah, I configured a Ricoh something-or-another last semester that claimed to do dot1X, but I didn't believe it. We already had a PSK network out there and we put it on that. I should mention that it took two of our techs plus the vendor sending a rep out and wasting hours of time to get it to accept a simple PSK connection. Oh, and did I mention that this is a brand new unit (as of 4 months ago) and it only supports 802.11a/b/g... :| From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? I was recently working on an HP laser Pro 200 that does have 802.1X support, but couldn't tell you if it works reliably. I was also impressed to see that it comes, along with other models, with IPv6 support. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
Yeah, I configured a Ricoh something-or-another last semester that claimed to do dot1X, but I didn't believe it. We already had a PSK network out there and we put it on that. I should mention that it took two of our techs plus the vendor sending a rep out and wasting hours of time to get it to accept a simple PSK connection. Oh, and did I mention that this is a brand new unit (as of 4 months ago) and it only supports 802.11a/b/g... :| From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? I was recently working on an HP laser Pro 200 that does have 802.1X support, but couldn't tell you if it works reliably. I was also impressed to see that it comes, along with other models, with IPv6 support. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
FWIW, last HP I touched also had 802.1x support, but ended up only on Ethernet side, not WLAN. Wacky... -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? I was recently working on an HP laser Pro 200 that does have 802.1X support, but couldn't tell you if it works reliably. I was also impressed to see that it comes, along with other models, with IPv6 support. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
Rasperry pi + wifi with USB to printer? Odds are kludging it all together would go far faster than waiting for such a unicorn model printer to appear... Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 02/12/2015 02:00 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: _http://wirednot.wordpress.com_) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
Not looking to debate the merit- sometimes the need is quick /temp and there’s not time to cable. No disrespect, but looking for actual verified 1x printers with the question. -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:50 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? If the cost of an outlet was more than the cost of a decent printer it'd be an issue. Otherwise, the cost of the outlet is incidental to the cost of providing the service and the 'value add'. Can print / can't print cost difference of $100. Value add of same? -- ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. From: Lee H Badmanmailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Sent: 12/02/2015 19:40 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? It comes up as a request often enough to keep tabs on, for either temporary placement or for locations that have power but not UTP. Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Why bother? If you can run a power outlet, you can run a catN also, and have guaranteed connectivity throughput.. My useless $0.02 -- Ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. From: Lee H Badmanmailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Sent: 12/02/2015 19:00 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
I was recently working on an HP laser Pro 200 that does have 802.1X support, but couldn't tell you if it works reliably. I was also impressed to see that it comes, along with other models, with IPv6 support. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
If the cost of an outlet was more than the cost of a decent printer it'd be an issue. Otherwise, the cost of the outlet is incidental to the cost of providing the service and the 'value add'. Can print / can't print cost difference of $100. Value add of same? -- ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. From: Lee H Badmanmailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Sent: 12/02/2015 19:40 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? It comes up as a request often enough to keep tabs on, for either temporary placement or for locations that have power but not UTP. Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Why bother? If you can run a power outlet, you can run a catN also, and have guaranteed connectivity throughput.. My useless $0.02 -- Ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. From: Lee H Badmanmailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Sent: 12/02/2015 19:00 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
:) Still hoping. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x?
On the other hand, if your printer is using more bandwidth than is provided by dot11g, you might have bigger problems :) -- Hunter Fuller Network Engineer VBRH M-9B +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Systems and Infrastructure I am part of the UAH Safe Zone LGBTQIA support network: http://www.uah.edu/student-affairs/safe-zone On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Hinson, Matthew P matthew.hin...@vikings.berry.edu wrote: Yeah, I configured a Ricoh something-or-another last semester that claimed to do dot1X, but I didn’t believe it. We already had a PSK network out there and we put it on that. I should mention that it took two of our techs plus the vendor sending a rep out and wasting hours of time to get it to accept a simple PSK connection. Oh, and did I mention that this is a brand new unit (as of 4 months ago) and it only supports 802.11a/b/g… K From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? I was recently working on an HP laser Pro 200 that does have 802.1X support, but couldn’t tell you if it works reliably. I was also impressed to see that it comes, along with other models, with IPv6 support. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi
I think that for Conference Centers/hotels, it’s pretty clear about Wi-Fi blocking/de-authing. Does private property make a difference, however? Our dorms are considered private property. Do we have more of a right there to control the airspace? And does unauthorized network access make a difference? If someone brings and AP and connects it to our network, do I a right to interfere with its wireless transmission because it’s providing unauthorized access to our private network? We have a Responsible Use of Technology Policy that forbids the use of wireless access points not purchased by IT and permits the removal of such devices but the IT department. Do we have a leg to stand on wit this? On 2/11/15, 4:51 PM, Turner, Ryan H rhtur...@email.unc.edu wrote: Yup, but then the FCC would be the agency of enforcement, not us. Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113 Office +1 919 274 7926 Mobile -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:31 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi Or, you can look at that as being harmful interference. Since your users will attempt to connect to the wrong network, it will disrupt your users' valid use of your network, harming your users. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 03:54:41PM +, Thomas Carter wrote: I see no exemption for that type of issue. The FCC rulings seem to be about use of frequency for communication, not the protocol details (unless the protocol prevents the communications as in this case). Additionally, who owns the SSID name? The FCC sees all users as the same, so I suspect you have no more right to the SSID than the user does. Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi On Wed Feb 11 2015 09:22:55 CST, Bob Brown bbr...@nww.com wrote: Thought my recent interview with head of wireless for Partners Healthcare might be of interest re: the FCC de-authing discussion http://www.networkworld.com/article/2881540/careers/how-not-to-get-s la mmed-by-the-fcc-for-wi-fi-blocking.html One thing that I haven't seen mentioned (or it's just as likely that I missed it) is the situation where a user's AP is configured to broadcast the same network name as one of our SSIDs. Is there justification to use deauth as a protective measure in those cases? -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi
Of course, I am not a lawyer so take these with a grain of salt, but I've been reading FCC regs since I was a teenager... *Does private property make a difference, however? Our dorms are consideredprivate property. Do we have more of a right there to control theairspace?* No. The FCC rules govern radio transmissions, wherever they are. Similarly, you can't jam CB radios, ham radios, television, or any other licensed or unlicensed broadcasts. *And does unauthorized network access make a difference? If someone bringsand AP and connects it to our network, do I a right to interfere with itswireless transmission because it’s providing unauthorized access to ourprivate network?* No, but yes. You can stop it from having any upstream network connection since you own that. So you can make it useless, even if you can't stop it from broadcasting. The rules really are about personal hotspots, not wired access points. *We have a Responsible Use of Technology Policy that forbids the use ofwireless access points not purchased by IT and permits the removal of suchdevices but the IT department. Do we have a leg to stand on wit this?* Again, you can stop a wired AP from being connected to your network and you can legally remove one. You may be able to use your acceptable use policy to sanction a student from using a Mi-Fi (eg threaten to throw them out of the dorm) BUT you likely have no recourse against a parent who brings one to live-tweet the graduation, for instance. - Eric On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Gary Ossewaarde g...@calvin.edu wrote: I think that for Conference Centers/hotels, it’s pretty clear about Wi-Fi blocking/de-authing. Does private property make a difference, however? Our dorms are considered private property. Do we have more of a right there to control the airspace? And does unauthorized network access make a difference? If someone brings and AP and connects it to our network, do I a right to interfere with its wireless transmission because it’s providing unauthorized access to our private network? We have a Responsible Use of Technology Policy that forbids the use of wireless access points not purchased by IT and permits the removal of such devices but the IT department. Do we have a leg to stand on wit this? On 2/11/15, 4:51 PM, Turner, Ryan H rhtur...@email.unc.edu wrote: Yup, but then the FCC would be the agency of enforcement, not us. Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113 Office +1 919 274 7926 Mobile -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:31 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi Or, you can look at that as being harmful interference. Since your users will attempt to connect to the wrong network, it will disrupt your users' valid use of your network, harming your users. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 03:54:41PM +, Thomas Carter wrote: I see no exemption for that type of issue. The FCC rulings seem to be about use of frequency for communication, not the protocol details (unless the protocol prevents the communications as in this case). Additionally, who owns the SSID name? The FCC sees all users as the same, so I suspect you have no more right to the SSID than the user does. Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi On Wed Feb 11 2015 09:22:55 CST, Bob Brown bbr...@nww.com wrote: Thought my recent interview with head of wireless for Partners Healthcare might be of interest re: the FCC de-authing discussion http://www.networkworld.com/article/2881540/careers/how-not-to-get-s la mmed-by-the-fcc-for-wi-fi-blocking.html One thing that I haven't seen mentioned (or it's just as likely that I missed it) is the situation where a user's AP is configured to broadcast the same network name as one of our SSIDs. Is there justification to use deauth as a protective measure in those cases? -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Setting up iPads with Apple Configurator- process breaking on 802.1X WLAN
Care to share ? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: 12 February 2015 12:19 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Setting up iPads with Apple Configurator- process breaking on 802.1X WLAN Follow up: on this one, and Apple engineer gave us a timing command to use on Configurator that solved the problem. -Lee On Feb 11, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: Hello Group, I have a very sharp Apple support homey on campus that is trying to configure a cart full of iPads that will (hopefully) reconfigure after every use using Apple Configurator and an MDM. It doesn't matter if the MDM is on campus or in the cloud, the results of the Configurator are very inconsistent when 1x network is in use, but reliable on an open network. Even though 1x auth is happening very fast, the iPads try once to reach MDM often before 1x auth has finished, then just gives up. The result is that the iPads configure fine, and get on the 1x network. But then never try again to reach the MDM environment (this all has to do with Apple's AVP stuff). It feels like the Configurator is just written poorly. Has anyone else gone down this road yet? -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Setting up iPads with Apple Configurator- process breaking on 802.1X WLAN
Sure: quoting defaults write com.apple.Configurator EnrollmentProfileInstallationDelay 15.0 15.0 is the number of seconds that Configurator will wait before installing an MDM enrollment profile. Last I heard there was no upper limit on this number, but don’t try to set it higher than 2 minutes. /end Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Setting up iPads with Apple Configurator- process breaking on 802.1X WLAN Care to share ? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: 12 February 2015 12:19 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Setting up iPads with Apple Configurator- process breaking on 802.1X WLAN Follow up: on this one, and Apple engineer gave us a timing command to use on Configurator that solved the problem. -Lee On Feb 11, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: Hello Group, I have a very sharp Apple support homey on campus that is trying to configure a cart full of iPads that will (hopefully) reconfigure after every use using Apple Configurator and an MDM. It doesn’t matter if the MDM is on campus or in the cloud, the results of the Configurator are very inconsistent when 1x network is in use, but reliable on an open network. Even though 1x auth is happening very fast, the iPads try once to reach MDM often before 1x auth has finished, then just gives up. The result is that the iPads configure fine, and get on the 1x network. But then never try again to reach the MDM environment (this all has to do with Apple’s AVP stuff). It feels like the Configurator is just written poorly. Has anyone else gone down this road yet? -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
