Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MPSK SSID Names

[Christopher H Ressel]

We marketed MPSK as a solution for IOT clients so we named ours UNR-IOT. It 
seems to have been self-explanatory enough as we haven’t had much user 
confusion.

Chris

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Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] MPSK SSID Names

Anyone using Aruba’s (or if other manufacturers have a similar feature) MPSK 
service?  What did you use for an SSID – looking for naming ideas.

-Brian


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba 8.6.0.5 and 8.6.0.7 intel 8260

[Christopher H Ressel]

Have you only seen this issue on 8260 NICs? We are having very similar reports 
of connections/disconnections in our residence halls, but have been unable to 
replicate it in the lab after our upgrade to 8.6.0.6. Perhaps unrelated, but we 
are also seeing high rates of CRC errors on 515s that TAC believes may be a 
bug. We have not had any reports from buildings with 21X and 31X APs.

Chris

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Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 12:28 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba 8.6.0.5 and 8.6.0.7 
intel 8260
Client doesn’t show with either of those commands

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 On Behalf Of Cody Ensanian
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:18 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba 8.6.0.5 and 8.6.0.7 
intel 8260

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+1 check for blacklisted client…  “show ap blacklist-clients | include xx:xx:xx”

Cody
University of Colorado Colorado Springs


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Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 7:10 PM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba 8.6.0.5 and 8.6.0.7 
intel 8260

Super weird man, what do you get when you do a “show ap client trail-info” for 
that device?

 any blacklist thresholds enabled?

T.J. Norton
Wireless Network Architect
Network Operations

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On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Hurt,Trenton W. 
mailto:trent.h...@louisville.edu>> wrote:

What model aps are you running?
515,535
- Are you running standard data rates and default profiles for the most part?
12 meg and up and for most part defaults are what I’m running any changes have 
come from the 802.11ac roaming guide or via Tac cases

- If running 802.11ax/Wi-FI 6 enabled access point make a new HE profile, 
disable “High Efficiency Enable” in the HE profile, and possibly apply on a 
dedicated SSID for testing.

802.11ax is disabled

- Also is WiDS enabled in your environment?
No dedicated wips/wids


Trent Hurt

University of Louisville


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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba 8.6.0.5 and 8.6.0.7 
intel 8260


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Hey Trent,

Couple quick things:

- What model aps are you running?
- Are you running standard data rates and default profiles for the most part?
- If running 802.11ax/Wi-FI 6 enabled access point make a new HE profile, 
disable “High Efficiency Enable” in the HE profile, and possibly apply on a 
dedicated SSID for testing.
- Also is WiDS enabled in your environment?



T.J. Norton

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Network Operations

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On Feb 2, 2021, at 8:33 PM, Hurt,Trenton W. 
mailto:trent.h...@louisville.edu>> wrote:



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So I’ve updated/downgraded drivers and still can’t get this card to keep 
connection on aruba wlan.  I had disabled HT and VHT on the card and it at 
least was able to keep stable connection.  That was on 8.6.0.5 code.  I 
upgraded to 8.6.0.7 and now user can’t connect to any ssid on aruba 
infrastructure with those disabled or enabled and regardless of driver.  I’m 
meeting in person Thursday to get some pcaps but was wondering if any aruba 
folks may have already seen this and or have possible fix to try?

Trent Hurt

University of Louisville


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 8.6.0.6 Experiences?

[Christopher H Ressel]

We also are not using clustering. Our initial roll out was a clustered, 
however, after experiencing a “very rare” STM memory leak that heavily affected 
users in clusters with an odd number of controllers, we moved away from that.

Chris

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 on behalf of "Scott R. Bradley" 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 9:19 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

We upgraded from ArubaOS 8.5.0.9 to 8.6.0.6 last Sunday (12/13).  No major 
issues so far.   We have 6500+ APs (135s, 2xx, 3xx, and AP-5xx).  Only one AP 
didn’t come back on its own but it only required a power cycle.  It did take a 
while though.  Seemed like longer than previous upgrades.  Plan on at least 30 
minutes of down time.  We have about 50 AP-303Hs running as RAPs and they took 
the longest.  That could probably be cut down by preloading the code on the 
APs.  We haven’t tried that yet.

We have seen some logs from our Juniper EX9208 routers about LACP timeout that 
were not there prior to the upgrade.  Our 7240s are 2 x 10G LACP connected to 
them.  It does not appear to be service affecting.  Just annoying.  It might 
have to do with LACP periodic fast/slow.  The 7240s default to slow.  The EXs 
default to fast.  TBD…

It is probably worth noting that we are not using clustering.  We had some 
major issues with it when first looking at AOS8 and made the decision not to 
deploy it.  We have a N+1 setup with a hot standby controller using bkup-lms-ip 
settings to provide redundancy.

Scott Bradley
Network Engineer
IT Cornell University


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Christopher H Ressel
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 11:44
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

We just upgraded to 8.6.0.6 last night from 8.5.x.  Too soon to tell how 
everything will behave, but testing last night looked good and of the 2700 APs 
upgraded (103s, 205s, 215s, 305s, 315s, 345s, 515s, 275s, 375s) all came back 
up.

Fingers crossed.

Chris

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of "Miller, Keith C" 
mailto:keith.mil...@unc.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 7:57 AM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

There’s no way that I’m aware of to fix the issue if it’s already occurring. 
You cannot telnet into the AP remotely because the AP doesn’t have a config 
that could enable telnet so you must console into the AP to get access to the 
APboot environment and then change the os_partition to whatever partition 
houses the newly upgraded image.

Regards,
Keith

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Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?
Yep, we have an AP-205h that failed to upgrade.  I think it was from 8.7.0.0 to 
8.7.1.0 this fall.  That AP is in quarantine space and is still broken as none 
of us are willing to go replace it yet.  Luckily there was enough coverage from 
neighboring AP's, but it is less than ideal for sure.

If anyone knows of a way to fix these AP's stuck in an upgrade loop without 
having to physically touch them, I'd love to hear how.

--Dan


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:23 AM Sweetser, Frank E. 
mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
That’s not a bad idea in general, but in this case it’s not only student 
housing in the midst of a COVID crisis, it’s student housing partially reserved 
as isolation housing for anyone who tests positive.  Advance RMA absolutely 
makes sense as far as wasting less time perched on the ladder, but at this 
point if it requires visiting all of the student rooms at all it’s just going 
to have to wait until summer.

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:54 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 8.6.0.6 Experiences?

[Christopher H Ressel]

We just upgraded to 8.6.0.6 last night from 8.5.x.  Too soon to tell how 
everything will behave, but testing last night looked good and of the 2700 APs 
upgraded (103s, 205s, 215s, 305s, 315s, 345s, 515s, 275s, 375s) all came back 
up.

Fingers crossed.

Chris

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Miller, Keith C" 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 7:57 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

There’s no way that I’m aware of to fix the issue if it’s already occurring. 
You cannot telnet into the AP remotely because the AP doesn’t have a config 
that could enable telnet so you must console into the AP to get access to the 
APboot environment and then change the os_partition to whatever partition 
houses the newly upgraded image.

Regards,
Keith

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?
Yep, we have an AP-205h that failed to upgrade.  I think it was from 8.7.0.0 to 
8.7.1.0 this fall.  That AP is in quarantine space and is still broken as none 
of us are willing to go replace it yet.  Luckily there was enough coverage from 
neighboring AP's, but it is less than ideal for sure.

If anyone knows of a way to fix these AP's stuck in an upgrade loop without 
having to physically touch them, I'd love to hear how.

--Dan


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:23 AM Sweetser, Frank E. 
mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
That’s not a bad idea in general, but in this case it’s not only student 
housing in the midst of a COVID crisis, it’s student housing partially reserved 
as isolation housing for anyone who tests positive.  Advance RMA absolutely 
makes sense as far as wasting less time perched on the ladder, but at this 
point if it requires visiting all of the student rooms at all it’s just going 
to have to wait until summer.

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:54 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

I really struggle with the notion of ever actually visiting deployed APs to do 
console work- regardless of vendor. If the bug is that bad, I’d seriously 
consider demanding an advance RMA for each of them. That way the site visit is 
a replacement rather than a tech monkeying around with file system at the top 
of a ladder or lift. To me, that is way beyond what should be expected of 
customers for what these systems cost.

Just one man’s opinion.

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
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https://answers.syr.edu/display/network/Wireless+Network+and+Systems
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:49 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

I recently performed an upgrade that included 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?

[Christopher H Ressel]

We had issues in early 8.5.x  that caused significant problems across our 
environment in a cluster due to an STM memory leak. This only presented itself 
in 3 controller clusters that exceeded certain concurrent client counts. 
Symptomatically, this caused clients to be intermittently disconnected, 
significant lag (in some instances minutes) in connecting, and the inability of 
some clients to connect at all. It was a pretty long week spent finding the bug 
due to the intermittency of the issue.



[University of Nevada, Reno]

Chris Ressel
Senior Network Engineer
Office of Information Technology
1664 N. Virginia St.
Mailstop 430

work-phone: 7756826034
email: cres...@unr.edu
website: https://oit.unr.edu


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of Norman Chu 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 9:17 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?

We have been running v8.5.0.4 (clustered controllers off of a mobility master) 
with a little over 4100 AP305’s and AP325’s for a couple of months and things 
have been stable here.  Prior to this, v8.3.0.8 was causing us a few issues.

Norman Chu
Systems Administrator, Network Infrastructure Team
IT Services
T:  514-398-7299
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www.mcgill.ca/it
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Michael Hulko
Sent: January 9, 2020 11:58 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?

May not be completely related, but we have had issues with newer AX chipsets 
that utilize NDIS 6.3 code set.  Some of the advanced features had to be turned 
off as a work around such as packet coalescing etc.

ALthough we have no 515’s in our environment, we are progressing to 8.6 (as per 
our SE) in the coming weeks and this does not make me comfortable.  Any issues 
with the 300 series APs and 8.5x? May rethink and downgrade to 8.3x as it also 
seems to only support the AP103Hs as well.

M



On Jan 9, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Lee H Badman 
<00db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>
 wrote:

No insult meant to anyone’s intelligence, but are you also looking at client 
device drivers etc in the context of these issues? Depending on which client 
NIC is in play, the device makers haven’t been doing us any favors of late. Is 
very possible for example that hundreds of AD-managed laptops may all have same 
bum driver.

Just asking…

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
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SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of David Morton
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:39 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?

Ryan, we have been experiencing some of the very same issues. Since installing 
515s and resulting 8.5.x code in our offices (always our first step to any 
migration) we too have experienced unexplained periods of no connectivity. In 
most or all the cases I’ve personally experienced, I believe that I remain 
connected at an 802.11 standpoint but will have that 30 seconds to a couple of 
minutes of no IP connectivity. We have now deployed 515s and 8.5.x in one of 
our residence halls so I am concerned about their experience as well. Just 
before the holiday break we had a series of very high-profile outages that 
impacted our students leading up to and during finals week. The issue got so 
bad that our CIO had to issue a letter to students explaining the problem and 
what we are doing about it. This is the first time that this level of 
communication was needed in 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[Christopher H Ressel]

We just had a new arts building come online in a very similar scenario. One of 
the biggest pains for us was dealing with the acoustic, aesthetic, and monetary 
constraints of getting wireless into some of the acoustically engineered 
concert halls. Our campus standard is for wireless coverage in all spaces.



[University of Nevada, Reno]

Chris Ressel
Senior Network Engineer
Office of Information Technology
1664 N. Virginia St.
Mailstop 430

work-phone: 7756826034
email: cres...@unr.edu
website: https://oit.unr.edu


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Mallon, Jason" 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 9:48 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

As of right now we are only doing wireless backstage and in the ticketing 
booths.  There is some bleed over into the audience section, but we are not 
trying to cover an entire theater.  Haven’t been asked to do this as of yet.  
All of our theaters have been in place for years and getting this done now 
would be a nightmare.  If a new theater was coming up I would probably do the 
design work and get the pipes to the correct places so that we would have the 
option to do something in the future.

Thanks,
Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III
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The University of Alabama
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Bull, Mary" 
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Poll - Campus Open Guest Wireless

[Christopher H Ressel]

Hi all,

We are actively looking at pursuing an open guest wireless solution where all 
guests are required to do for access it to accept terms of use via a captive 
portal (no self-registration). I was hoping to get an idea (general head count) 
of how many of you are out there to give us an idea of how prevalent this is 
amongst similar institutions. If you do in fact have a similar open guest setup 
how has your experience been thus far?

Chris Ressel
Network Engineer
University of Nevada, Reno
(775) 682-6034


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