We also are not using clustering. Our initial roll out was a clustered, 
however, after experiencing a “very rare” STM memory leak that heavily affected 
users in clusters with an odd number of controllers, we moved away from that.

Chris

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of "Scott R. Bradley" 
<s...@cornell.edu>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 9:19 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

We upgraded from ArubaOS 8.5.0.9 to 8.6.0.6 last Sunday (12/13).  No major 
issues so far.   We have 6500+ APs (135s, 2xx, 3xx, and AP-5xx).  Only one AP 
didn’t come back on its own but it only required a power cycle.  It did take a 
while though.  Seemed like longer than previous upgrades.  Plan on at least 30 
minutes of down time.  We have about 50 AP-303Hs running as RAPs and they took 
the longest.  That could probably be cut down by preloading the code on the 
APs.  We haven’t tried that yet.

We have seen some logs from our Juniper EX9208 routers about LACP timeout that 
were not there prior to the upgrade.  Our 7240s are 2 x 10G LACP connected to 
them.  It does not appear to be service affecting.  Just annoying.  It might 
have to do with LACP periodic fast/slow.  The 7240s default to slow.  The EXs 
default to fast.  TBD…

It is probably worth noting that we are not using clustering.  We had some 
major issues with it when first looking at AOS8 and made the decision not to 
deploy it.  We have a N+1 setup with a hot standby controller using bkup-lms-ip 
settings to provide redundancy.

Scott Bradley
Network Engineer
IT Cornell University


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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Christopher H Ressel
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 11:44
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

We just upgraded to 8.6.0.6 last night from 8.5.x.  Too soon to tell how 
everything will behave, but testing last night looked good and of the 2700 APs 
upgraded (103s, 205s, 215s, 305s, 315s, 345s, 515s, 275s, 375s) all came back 
up.

Fingers crossed.

Chris

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of "Miller, Keith C" 
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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 7:57 AM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

There’s no way that I’m aware of to fix the issue if it’s already occurring. 
You cannot telnet into the AP remotely because the AP doesn’t have a config 
that could enable telnet so you must console into the AP to get access to the 
APboot environment and then change the os_partition to whatever partition 
houses the newly upgraded image.

Regards,
Keith

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Date: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?
Yep, we have an AP-205h that failed to upgrade.  I think it was from 8.7.0.0 to 
8.7.1.0 this fall.  That AP is in quarantine space and is still broken as none 
of us are willing to go replace it yet.  Luckily there was enough coverage from 
neighboring AP's, but it is less than ideal for sure.

If anyone knows of a way to fix these AP's stuck in an upgrade loop without 
having to physically touch them, I'd love to hear how.

--Dan


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:23 AM Sweetser, Frank E. 
<f...@wpi.edu<mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
That’s not a bad idea in general, but in this case it’s not only student 
housing in the midst of a COVID crisis, it’s student housing partially reserved 
as isolation housing for anyone who tests positive.  Advance RMA absolutely 
makes sense as far as wasting less time perched on the ladder, but at this 
point if it requires visiting all of the student rooms at all it’s just going 
to have to wait until summer.

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

I really struggle with the notion of ever actually visiting deployed APs to do 
console work- regardless of vendor. If the bug is that bad, I’d seriously 
consider demanding an advance RMA for each of them. That way the site visit is 
a replacement rather than a tech monkeying around with file system at the top 
of a ladder or lift. To me, that is way beyond what should be expected of 
customers for what these systems cost.

Just one man’s opinion.

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
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On Behalf Of Sweetser, Frank E.
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:49 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 
8.6.0.6 Experiences?

I recently performed an upgrade that included about 90 505s, and strongly 
suspect I hit the same bug on the entire batch – except, of course, for the one 
that I kept and put in the lab environment.  That one stubbornly refused to 
fail, upgrading flawlessly every time.

Has anyone ever heard if there’s a fix that doesn’t require physical access?  
All of my 505 are in residential space, which basically means that I’m not 
likely to get physical access to them until after the students move out this 
summer.

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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On Behalf Of Miller, Keith C
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 6:33 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 8.6.0.6 Experiences?

That’s the one. Have you reported it to them? I didn’t pull the word rare out 
of thin air... That’s what I’ve been told and that it affected roughly 0.0001% 
of deployed 515s. I guess I’m just being naive.

Thanks for waking me up!

Regards,
Keith
M: (803) 464-2397 O: (919) 962-6564

Sent from my mobile device so please excuse any typos.
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on behalf of Michael Davis <da...@udel.edu<mailto:da...@udel.edu>>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:22:13 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ArubaOS 8.5.0.11 or 8.6.0.6 Experiences?

It's not so rare, it's been happening to our 515s since 8.4.

The AP will upgrade successfully, but the apboot> environment variable that 
selects which
partition to boot, never gets changed so it reboots to the old partition and 
rinse and repeat.
On 12/17/20 9:03 PM, Miller, Keith C wrote:

2. We hit a “rare” bug that’s only affected a small number of 515s worldwide 
where the AP gets stuck in a boot/image upgrade loop and you must physically 
console into the AP to fix it and boot from the upgraded partition.



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