Ethan,
We've used Procurve access points for about 6 years now. We still have
quite a few 420's in service though we're starting to move them out of
service, and have a bunch of RP210's connected to a WESM controller. I had
been holding out on deploying any of the MSM (Coloubris) access points
It should also be noted that not all controller in the cloud
solutions are the same. The key difference is the control plane.
While the data plane is distributed and the management plane is
centralized the control plane will be handled differently depending on
the vendor.
If the control plane is
My only concern with the controller in the cloud approach.
What happens if you decide not to pay maintenance.
Do all your AP's turn into paper weights? They keep running, just with the
last config that was loaded?
(Times get tough, sometimes you have to cut corners to keep the ship
floating.
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Ethan Sommer wrote:
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure with a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP switch
gear), and Meraki.
I have two questions:
1. Are there any hidden
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Jason S. Cash
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:32 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Ethan Sommer wrote:
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure
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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of gwill...@uccs.edu
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:07 AM
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I think I'll finally chime in here.
We have around 350+ Aruba APs
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:07 AM, gwill...@uccs.edu wrote:
I'm
very glad we made the decision to go with Aruba based on the fact that I
see
people on this message board complaining that something doesn't work right
with their cisco upgrade. Maybe more people have cisco than Aruba, I don't
On Apr 13, 2010, at 08:07, gwill...@uccs.edu wrote:
As for Meraki, the concept works in some cases, and I'm not sure what
the educational costs are, but the cost of their APs as advertised and
enterprise controller seems almost the same as Aruba.
I have to tout Meraki a little here, especially
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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Miles Davis
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On Apr 13, 2010, at 08:07, gwill...@uccs.edu wrote
On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:45, Lee H Badman wrote:
Just a bit more on Miles' comments- I did like that with Meraki, the
controller layer is somebody else's problem. And that when you lose link to
the cloud, everything local still pretty much works despite the controller
being out there in the
To say nothing of the MR58 !!! If you can heft it, it would make a pretty
good dent in the AP jousting and bashing competition.
I have also enjoyed the clean and simple management interface Meraki has
developed.
John
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Miles Davis mi...@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan
Sommer
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:21 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure
with
a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
And as Lee is swinging the 1142s, the song Eye of the Tiger would be playing,
along with a slow-motion montage of various IT highlights from his career. :)
Jeff
Mike King m...@mpking.com
11, 2010 9:24 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
Lifetime warranty is great, but it still costs time/money to have an IT
staff member mount/dismount the AP and send it back for replacement. All
things being equal, I'd rather mount the AP once
From:Mike King m...@mpking.com
Subject: Re: Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
Based on that line, I had two images pop in my mind:
The first one was Lee Swinging two 1142n (one in each hand) like a ninja.
1142? Come on, now, think big! The AP1252 weighs over six pounds and
has six antennas
.
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I'd bring the 1250 to a bar fight. It's more Medieval.
Bruce T. Johnson | Partners Healthcare | Network Engineering
617.726.9662 | Pager: 31633 | bjohns...@partners.org
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I believe this would fall under the built
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I always wondered what that WarDriving was all about. I get it now!
Philippe, don't bother me or I rotate a Xirrus Array at you, and non
of your porcupine will make it, Hanset
p.s. This calls for a youtube video!
On Apr 12, 2010
Of Philippe Hanset
Sent: 12 April 2010 20:57
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
I always wondered what that WarDriving was all about. I get it now!
Philippe, don't bother me or I rotate a Xirrus Array at you, and non
of your porcupine
-
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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan
Sommer
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200
2:21 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure
with
a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use
HP
switch gear
I just don't like the this one feels hefty so it must be more
reliable line of reasoning. I would rather see test numbers and
I recall, in a past lifetime, disassembling a TI calculator that felt more
substantial and finding a non-functional (except for the weight) steel plate
under the
] On Behalf Of Ethan
Sommer
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:21 PM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure with
a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down
Of Jeffrey Sessler
[j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
Ethan,
Where I would suggest spending some evaluation time is on the AP
construction. Having had time to evaluate both the Aruba
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
If I have to take an AP to a bar fight, I'd want a Cisco to swing around,
simply based on heft.
Based on that line, I had two images pop in my mind:
The first one was Lee Swinging two 1142n (one in each hand) like a
?
Pete M.
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs
on this.
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[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Hao, Justin C
[j...@austin.utexas.edu]
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure
with
a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP
switch gear), and Meraki.
I have
And as Lee is swinging the 1142s, the song Eye of the Tiger would be playing,
along with a slow-motion montage of various IT highlights from his career. :)
Jeff
Mike King m...@mpking.com 4/11/2010 5:46 PM
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:
If I have to
, 2010 2:21 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure
with
a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP
switch gear
: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
In the same line of examination you want to pay attention to ap
performance and features. Cisco's 1142 does not have orientable
antennas and does not support wall mount(vertical) placement. Also
note the 2x3 mimo vs the 3x3 mimo between Cisco and Aruba
On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:21, Ethan Sommer wrote:
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure with a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
What I personally find interesting is the wide choice not from a
manufacturing point of view but more from a Wi-Fi technology point of view.
Aruba – Controller based (aka controller based)
All data goes through
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[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of John Rodkey
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And in the thread of management and monitoring I highly
Ethan,
We have a solid Aruba deployment for ~5,000 APs and ~40 controllers. In terms
of cost, definitely anticipate licensing costs. However, Aruba recently
combined much of their feature set into the base OS and/or 1 or 2 licenses. To
get the most of your deployment, you'll definitely want
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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:21 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure with a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure with a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP
switch gear), and Meraki.
I have two questions:
1. Are there any hidden
: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:21 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure with a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP
switch
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure
with a
controller based 802.11n system.
I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP
switch gear), and Meraki.
I have two questions:
1
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[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan Sommer [somm...@gac.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 5:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are an anti cisco shop. We moved away
Listserv
[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan Sommer
[somm...@gac.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 5:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
We are an anti cisco shop. We moved away to hp and didn't look back
Constituent Group Listserv
[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan Sommer [somm...@gac.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
As I said in another post we selected our finalists based on what
02, 2010 9:25 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki
As I said in another post we selected our finalists based on what
others colleges seem happy with (which by a wide margin seems to be
mostly cisco, aruba, and meru) and HP because we
We moved from Aruba to Meraki within the last year.
We were able to get considerably more saturation of the campus with wireless
using Meraki than would have been possible for the same cost with Aruba.
Administration of the access points was much more intuitive with Meraki than
our experience with
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